Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft FS Shutdown

2009-01-26 Thread Christian Buchner
I am in contact with one commercial customer of ESP - and they are
about as ped about Microsoft shutting down development as everyone
else is.

Christian

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft FS Shutdown

2009-01-26 Thread George Patterson
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:54:36 -0600, Tom wrote in message
 1232938476.19707.15.ca...@big-laptop:

 Don't kid yourself about MSFS going away anytime soon...

 For the past couple years, MS has been flooding the market with their
 commercial-level ESP development environment, for high-end users

 ..what's an high end user?

 and developers. They have been pushing commercial licensing with a new
 front-end SDK into (what I am told) is the MSFS back-end (FDM,
 visuals, etc).

 ..freebee lock-ins?  Or does people pay money for these kits?


If we are talking about add-ons such as higher resolution scenery
packs or complete planes that are not included in the base MSFS
package. Yes, there is a sizeable market out there for this type of
thing. Grab a copy of PC Pilot (UK based magazine) and start reading.
The tutorials at the back of the magazine is rather good with
Jeppensen maps covering the departure and arrival airfields.



 There have been some pretty neat things to come out of
 this so far--just Google Flight1 and have a look at some of the
 things they have done. The Elite guys tell me that this is all done
 with the new ESP SDK.

 There may not be a game called MSFS any longer--but FS isn't going
 away by any means...at least not from what I've been told by several
 people active in the market.


So Game Off?? :-)

Regards


George

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[Flightgear-devel] Microsoft FS Shutdown

2009-01-25 Thread Tom Betka
Don't kid yourself about MSFS going away anytime soon...

For the past couple years, MS has been flooding the market with their
commercial-level ESP development environment, for high-end users and
developers. They have been pushing commercial licensing with a new
front-end SDK into (what I am told) is the MSFS back-end (FDM, visuals,
etc). There have been some pretty neat things to come out of this so
far--just Google Flight1 and have a look at some of the things they
have done. The Elite guys tell me that this is all done with the new ESP
SDK.

There may not be a game called MSFS any longer--but FS isn't going
away by any means...at least not from what I've been told by several
people active in the market.

TB


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft FS Shutdown

2009-01-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:54:36 -0600, Tom wrote in message 
1232938476.19707.15.ca...@big-laptop:

 Don't kid yourself about MSFS going away anytime soon...
 
 For the past couple years, MS has been flooding the market with their
 commercial-level ESP development environment, for high-end users 

..what's an high end user?

 and developers. They have been pushing commercial licensing with a new
 front-end SDK into (what I am told) is the MSFS back-end (FDM,
 visuals, etc). 

..freebee lock-ins?  Or does people pay money for these kits?

 There have been some pretty neat things to come out of
 this so far--just Google Flight1 and have a look at some of the
 things they have done. The Elite guys tell me that this is all done
 with the new ESP SDK.
 
 There may not be a game called MSFS any longer--but FS isn't going
 away by any means...at least not from what I've been told by several
 people active in the market.

.. ;o)

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  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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