Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG version (was Auto-hiding the cursor)

2011-03-22 Thread ThorstenB

On 22.03.2011 00:08, HB-GRAL wrote:

  I just noticed though, that a number of wiki pages again returned to
  recommend the use of latest OSG-svn*sigh*. I don't know why people keep
  recommending that...

Because it is valid;-)  Maybe not trunk, thats always dangerous, but
2.9.9 seems to work for OSX.


Ok, thanks for clearing that up. Glad that 2.9.9 works fine after all 
then. With latest OSG-svn I was specifically referring to the latest 
sources from the OSG subversion trunk - which shouldn't be the 
standard for any FG git user (unless you really, really know what you're 
doing).


cheers,
Thorsten
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[Flightgear-devel] OSG version (was Auto-hiding the cursor)

2011-03-21 Thread ThorstenB
On 21.03.2011 21:04, HB-GRAL wrote:
 Just to report: It’s a OSG 2.9.9 issue on OSX, was going back to 2.9.7
 and all works fine. Also the keyboard input.

 (I am a victim of the wiki too now :-P , I wrote myself months ago 2.9.7
 is needed and someone changed requirement for OSX 10.6 to OSG 2.9.9.
 Don’t know the reason for this, but beside that, I guess the nightlies
 based on 2.9.9 are also not working correctly ?)
 htgear-devel

Until some weeks ago, there was a standard recommendation in the wiki to 
use latest OSG-svn when running FG git (actually in several places in 
the wiki). But using the bleeding edge OSG sources causes issues, since 
OSG development is pretty active and they have frequent changes. There 
is no way we could keep up/test those changes on weekly/daily/hourly 
notice. And sometimes OSG itself is also introducing new bugs in their 
code (like this probably: 
http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=268). Recently 
we've seen many people reporting issues due to unstable OSG - both, in 
the tracker and on the mailing list.
Also, we found that any normally advanced FG git user doesn't even 
need to run the very latest OSG sources. Those very few who actually 
need it (i.e. in order to adapt FlightGear), know anyway what to do (hey 
Tim! :) ).

So, after some discussion we decided to recommend the latest _stable_ 
OSG release by default (which still is OSG2.8.3). And for those, who 
really want to be a guinea pig and test the OSG-developer versions, we 
found that 2.9.9 was the latest (at the time) which was working with 
Linux/Mac/Windows (reported by several people on irc including 
Tim/James, I think). That's why the wiki was changed (default: 2.8.3, 
and 2.9.9 for keen developers). And it was me updating the OSG wiki page:
http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/OSG

Personally, I prefer to stick with OSG stable (2.8.3) - which works 
great for me. There are still enough issues in FG git itself to worry 
about... ;-)

I just noticed though, that a number of wiki pages again returned to 
recommend the use of latest OSG-svn *sigh*. I don't know why people keep 
recommending that...

cheers,
Thorsten


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG version (was Auto-hiding the cursor)

2011-03-21 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 21.03.11 22:12, schrieb ThorstenB:

 I just noticed though, that a number of wiki pages again returned to
 recommend the use of latest OSG-svn *sigh*. I don't know why people keep
 recommending that...

 cheers,
 Thorsten


Because it is valid ;-) Maybe not trunk, thats always dangerous, but 
2.9.9 seems to work for OSX.  I see right now I did a bad mistake in OSG 
configuration cocoa vs. carbon. There is no Xcode support anymore with 
OSG 2.9.9 and there have been some changes in default cmake 
configuration. Oi, oi, oi. Coming back here means reading two weeks 
list/forum/wikis, compiling two weeks (13 days for OSG, 1 day for 
sg/fg), buying a new machine, do it all again, but finally: I am always 
happy.

Now I am building again, also because I see that the hudson nightlies 
are working with 2.9.9 on OSX 10.6.

Sorry for this confusion. I hope the new compiled OSG libs will solve 
all my issues posted the last two days. And after that I follow the 
thread Quiet.

Cheers, Yves

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