Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

2007-12-24 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Gerard,
gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14:
 BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference between  water 
 and 
 solid

 Cheers

   
Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery looks like 
water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land on water everywhere 
you have no scenery  installed.

Maik


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

2007-12-24 Thread AnMaster
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Maik Justus wrote:
 Hi Gerard,
 gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14:
 BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference between  water 
 and 
 solid

 Cheers

   
 Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery looks like 
 water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land on water everywhere 
 you have no scenery  installed.
That sounds strange, you would be unable to land with a float plane on sea 
tiles then?

And when I started with A-6E once where I laked scenery, I was unable to take 
off, because the
aircraft had crashed into the water.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

2007-12-24 Thread gerard robin
On lun 24 décembre 2007, AnMaster wrote:
 Maik Justus wrote:
  Hi Gerard,
 
  gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14:
  BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference between 
  water and solid
 
  Cheers
 
  Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery looks like
  water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land on water everywhere
  you have no scenery  installed.

 That sounds strange, you would be unable to land with a float plane on sea
 tiles then?

 And when I started with A-6E once where I laked scenery, I was unable to
 take off, because the aircraft had crashed into the water.

 Regards,

 Arvid Norlander


I am not sure that i have understood very well.

My c172 is a JSBSim aircraft and it makes difference  between water and solid.

The seaplane can land and take off on that sea tile, when there is sea tile, 
the North Pole shows that there is NO tile, which explain that the  Aircraft 
can't fly on it.

Merry Christmas!  


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

2007-12-24 Thread LeeE
On Monday 24 December 2007 11:17, Maik Justus wrote:
 Hi Gerard,

 gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14:
  BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference
  between  water and solid
 
  Cheers

 Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery looks
 like water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land on water
 everywhere you have no scenery  installed.

 Maik

Ah - that's handy to know.  Before water actually became wet in FG I 
used to use the sea for tuning fdms, A/P controllers and 
takeoff/landing stuff without having to worry about running out of 
runway :)

LeeE

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

2007-12-24 Thread LeeE
On Monday 24 December 2007 12:08, gerard robin wrote:
 On lun 24 décembre 2007, AnMaster wrote:
  Maik Justus wrote:
   Hi Gerard,
  
   gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14:
   BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference
   between water and solid
  
   Cheers
  
   Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery
   looks like water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land
   on water everywhere you have no scenery  installed.
 
  That sounds strange, you would be unable to land with a float
  plane on sea tiles then?
 
  And when I started with A-6E once where I laked scenery, I was
  unable to take off, because the aircraft had crashed into the
  water.
 
  Regards,
 
  Arvid Norlander

 I am not sure that i have understood very well.

 My c172 is a JSBSim aircraft and it makes difference  between
 water and solid.

 The seaplane can land and take off on that sea tile, when there
 is sea tile, the North Pole shows that there is NO tile, which
 explain that the  Aircraft can't fly on it.

 Merry Christmas!

There's no SRTM data for the poles, or above 70 deg, iirc.

LeeE

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

2007-12-24 Thread gerard robin
On lun 24 décembre 2007, LeeE wrote:
 On Monday 24 December 2007 12:08, gerard robin wrote:
  On lun 24 décembre 2007, AnMaster wrote:
   Maik Justus wrote:
Hi Gerard,
   
gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14:
BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference
between water and solid
   
Cheers
   
Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery
looks like water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land
on water everywhere you have no scenery  installed.
  
   That sounds strange, you would be unable to land with a float
   plane on sea tiles then?
  
   And when I started with A-6E once where I laked scenery, I was
   unable to take off, because the aircraft had crashed into the
   water.
  
   Regards,
  
   Arvid Norlander
 
  I am not sure that i have understood very well.
 
  My c172 is a JSBSim aircraft and it makes difference  between
  water and solid.
 
  The seaplane can land and take off on that sea tile, when there
  is sea tile, the North Pole shows that there is NO tile, which
  explain that the  Aircraft can't fly on it.
 
  Merry Christmas!

 There's no SRTM data for the poles, or above 70 deg, iirc.

 LeeE

Or may be, when the ice will have thawed  (by the end of the century ?), we 
will discover that there is a big hole, instead  of it   :)


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[Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

2007-12-23 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi,

just launched a current cvs build with
./fgfs --aircraft=c172p --start-date-sys=2007:06:21:12:00:00 --lat=89.0 --lon=10
As expected, the cessna sat on the water since there is no scenery installed.
After takeoff, when flying a few miles to the north, the water vanishes and 
there is nothing than some mystical white mist. 
Screenshot: http://www.t3r.de/fg/end-of-the-world.jpg
Trying to land on what's supposed to be sea level, the aircraft does not 
descend below 0ft, but it accelerates with throttle idle to unlimited.

Anybody else observing this? Whats going on here?

Torsten

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

2007-12-23 Thread AnMaster
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fg never worked well around the poles, iirc with fg/osg you get a crash at 
south poles. Also we lack
scenery for the poles. Any scenery south or north of a certain point that is.

How did you take off from the water btw?

Regards,

Arvid Norlander

Torsten Dreyer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 just launched a current cvs build with
 ./fgfs --aircraft=c172p --start-date-sys=2007:06:21:12:00:00 --lat=89.0 
 --lon=10
 As expected, the cessna sat on the water since there is no scenery installed.
 After takeoff, when flying a few miles to the north, the water vanishes and 
 there is nothing than some mystical white mist. 
 Screenshot: http://www.t3r.de/fg/end-of-the-world.jpg
 Trying to land on what's supposed to be sea level, the aircraft does not 
 descend below 0ft, but it accelerates with throttle idle to unlimited.
 
 Anybody else observing this? Whats going on here?
 
 Torsten
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

2007-12-23 Thread Torsten Dreyer
 fg never worked well around the poles, iirc with fg/osg you get a crash at
 south poles. Also we lack scenery for the poles. Any scenery south or north
 of a certain point that is.
Oh - no rich-people-cocktail-party with a helicopter at the north-pole. 

 How did you take off from the water btw?
Normal takeoff: full throttle, rotate at 60 and go.

Torsten

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

2007-12-23 Thread AnMaster
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Torsten Dreyer wrote:
 fg never worked well around the poles, iirc with fg/osg you get a crash at
 south poles. Also we lack scenery for the poles. Any scenery south or north
 of a certain point that is.
 Oh - no rich-people-cocktail-party with a helicopter at the north-pole.
Heh? What did you plan?!

 How did you take off from the water btw?
 Normal takeoff: full throttle, rotate at 60 and go.
Ah it is JSBSim then?

Yasim would had crashed.

Regards,

Arvid Norlander
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone

2007-12-23 Thread gerard robin
On dim 23 décembre 2007, Torsten Dreyer wrote:
 Hi,

 just launched a current cvs build with
 ./fgfs --aircraft=c172p --start-date-sys=2007:06:21:12:00:00 --lat=89.0
 --lon=10 As expected, the cessna sat on the water since there is no scenery
 installed. After takeoff, when flying a few miles to the north, the water
 vanishes and there is nothing than some mystical white mist.
 Screenshot: http://www.t3r.de/fg/end-of-the-world.jpg
 Trying to land on what's supposed to be sea level, the aircraft does not
 descend below 0ft, but it accelerates with throttle idle to unlimited.

 Anybody else observing this? Whats going on here?

 Torsten

Yes same for me 
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/North-Pole.jpg

BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference between  water and 
solid

Cheers



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