Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1

2007-05-30 Thread Pigeon
>I can add one more bit of information.  I have seen these visual
>artificacts with the default menu coloring scheme.  If you switch to the
>alternative menu/gui style (Shift-F11?) then these artifcacts go away ...
>so maybe we are inadvertently leaving some sort of alpha blend mode on
>after drawing the menus which is messing up the sky which is the first
>thing drawn in the next frame???

With the alternative menu style it seems to be doing that less. The
artifact still occurs when a text cursor is visible (e.g. in the
property browser and you click on the text field). Hopefully this
narrows it down a bit more.


Pigeon.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1

2007-05-29 Thread Curtis Olson

On 5/29/07, gh.robin wrote:


--geometry=1800x1450=<  only to repare one mistake  , versus my
previous mail



I can add one more bit of information.  I have seen these visual artificacts
with the default menu coloring scheme.  If you switch to the alternative
menu/gui style (Shift-F11?) then these artifcacts go away ... so maybe we
are inadvertently leaving some sort of alpha blend mode on after drawing the
menus which is messing up the sky which is the first thing drawn in the next
frame???

Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1

2007-05-29 Thread gh.robin
On Tue 29 May 2007 14:33, gh.robin wrote:
> On Tue 29 May 2007 10:46, Ladislav Michnovič wrote:
> > 2007/5/28, Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > If I changed the view
> > > > strange  overlaying triangles were visible on the sky. Does anybody
> > > > similar problems?
> > >
> > > A while ago a few of us has come to a conclusion that it only
> > > happens with the nvidia driver. Those weird triangles appear when a FG
> > > menu is on the screen at the same time.
> > >
> > > Last time some of us confirmed the issue went away with the latest
> > > nvidia driver (9755). However with FG-plib cvs (as of yesterday) I'm
> > > still seeing this glitch with 9755. Haven't tried FG-osg yet.
> >
> > Well, the screenshot was made on PCI-Ex 7300 card with Nvidia 9755
> > binary driver.
> >
> > Regards Ladislav.
>
 Hello,
>
 

 --geometry=1800x1450=<  only to repare one mistake  , versus my 
previous mail

 Regards

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1

2007-05-29 Thread gh.robin
On Tue 29 May 2007 10:46, Ladislav Michnovič wrote:
> 2007/5/28, Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > If I changed the view
> > > strange  overlaying triangles were visible on the sky. Does anybody
> > > similar problems?
> >
> > A while ago a few of us has come to a conclusion that it only
> > happens with the nvidia driver. Those weird triangles appear when a FG
> > menu is on the screen at the same time.
> >
> > Last time some of us confirmed the issue went away with the latest
> > nvidia driver (9755). However with FG-plib cvs (as of yesterday) I'm
> > still seeing this glitch with 9755. Haven't tried FG-osg yet.
>
> Well, the screenshot was made on PCI-Ex 7300 card with Nvidia 9755
> binary driver.
>
> Regards Ladislav.
>

Hello,

That strange behavior, is not new to me , i have it since .may be 8 
month , ===> only  when using Menu.

7800 GS AGP card with Nvidia 9755 driver.

--geometry=1800x145

That happen with any FG configuration , shadow no shadow , clouds 3D no clouds 
3D , 

I never caught the attention on it , i should have to  :)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1

2007-05-29 Thread Ladislav Michnovič
2007/5/29, Nick Warne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> If I remember rightly, I had this issue in plib once, and I found it was
> caused by a render option - but I cannot remember which one.  Try turning
> on/off the sky/cloud rendering options.
>
> Nick

If I turn off 3D clouds rendering option, these artifacts are shown
for a second and then they disappear. But they are still visible for a
while when changing the view.

Regards Ladislav.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1

2007-05-29 Thread Nick Warne
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 09:46:52 Ladislav Michnovič wrote:
> 2007/5/28, Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > If I changed the view
> > > strange  overlaying triangles were visible on the sky. Does anybody
> > > similar problems?
> >
> > A while ago a few of us has come to a conclusion that it only
> > happens with the nvidia driver. Those weird triangles appear when a FG
> > menu is on the screen at the same time.
> >
> > Last time some of us confirmed the issue went away with the latest
> > nvidia driver (9755). However with FG-plib cvs (as of yesterday) I'm
> > still seeing this glitch with 9755. Haven't tried FG-osg yet.
>
> Well, the screenshot was made on PCI-Ex 7300 card with Nvidia 9755
> binary driver.
>
> Regards Ladislav.

If I remember rightly, I had this issue in plib once, and I found it was 
caused by a render option - but I cannot remember which one.  Try turning 
on/off the sky/cloud rendering options.

Nick



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1

2007-05-29 Thread Ladislav Michnovič
2007/5/28, Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > If I changed the view
> > strange  overlaying triangles were visible on the sky. Does anybody
> > similar problems?
>
> A while ago a few of us has come to a conclusion that it only
> happens with the nvidia driver. Those weird triangles appear when a FG
> menu is on the screen at the same time.
>
> Last time some of us confirmed the issue went away with the latest
> nvidia driver (9755). However with FG-plib cvs (as of yesterday) I'm
> still seeing this glitch with 9755. Haven't tried FG-osg yet.

Well, the screenshot was made on PCI-Ex 7300 card with Nvidia 9755
binary driver.

Regards Ladislav.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1

2007-05-28 Thread Pigeon
> If I changed the view
> strange  overlaying triangles were visible on the sky. Does anybody
> similar problems?

A while ago a few of us has come to a conclusion that it only
happens with the nvidia driver. Those weird triangles appear when a FG
menu is on the screen at the same time.

Last time some of us confirmed the issue went away with the latest
nvidia driver (9755). However with FG-plib cvs (as of yesterday) I'm
still seeing this glitch with 9755. Haven't tried FG-osg yet.

One workaround is to turn on anti-aliasing in the nvidia settings.

Maybe we should report this issue to nvidia, but I don't even know
what make senses to be reported to them...


Pigeon.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1

2007-05-28 Thread Ladislav Michnovič

Hello.

I've tried the latest FG pre1 version, but it was rather strange.
Every 20 second screen flashes an it looked like it was reseted. I
also see some artifacts, attaching screenshot. If I changed the view
strange  overlaying triangles were visible on the sky. Does anybody
similar problems?

Regards Ladislav.
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