Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
Hello, James Back to the topic. Thanks for the fix , right now we can use again the Autopilot with the GPS. However the altitude is lost at each WP loading, set to Zero. We could, before, keep on the original defined AP altitude, all over the trip. I know it was not realistic. May be that cruise altitude given within the route manager could be used, to init the AP altitude, thus to keep on the right altitude along the trip. Any idea ? Thank Ahmad On 18 June 2013 01:40, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: Just tested with the Cub, working perfectly. Thank a lot Ahmad On 17 June 2013 16:42, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 17 Jun 2013, at 15:41, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: If you refer to your last fix (yesterday) , it is not sufficient, since like said the /autopilot/settings/gps-driving-true-heading property is not set to true. No, I need to make further tweak this evening, don't worry :) Regards, James -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
Hello, Autopilot with Route manager is Longer broken, it is missing /autopilot/settings/gps-driving-true-heading triggered to true and the right /true-heading-deg which goes with it. Since the feature has not been removed from the GUI, i guess it had been broken elsewhere . Your update the GUI GPS box related is right. Thank Ahmad On 16 June 2013 23:23, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 16 Jun 2013, at 15:46, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: Both same place , same computer.. I've just pushed a fix to FlightGear, which fixes part of this for the Cub. Please test and let me know if things are improved! Regards, James -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
though not sure
gps.cxx line 774
if (!_config.driveAutopilot() || !_defaultGPSMode) {
_apDrivingFlag-setBoolValue(false);
isn't it that strange ?
_apDrivingFlag is ever set to false
On 17 June 2013 14:22, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Autopilot with Route manager is Longer broken, it is missing
/autopilot/settings/gps-driving-true-heading triggered to true and the
right /true-heading-deg which goes with it.
Since the feature has not been removed from the GUI, i guess it had been
broken elsewhere .
Your update the GUI GPS box related is right.
Thank
Ahmad
On 16 June 2013 23:23, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote:
On 16 Jun 2013, at 15:46, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote:
Both same place , same computer..
I've just pushed a fix to FlightGear, which fixes part of this for the
Cub. Please test and let me know if things are improved!
Regards,
James
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
On 17 Jun 2013, at 14:41, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote:
though not sure
gps.cxx line 774
if (!_config.driveAutopilot() || !_defaultGPSMode) {
_apDrivingFlag-setBoolValue(false);
isn't it that strange ?
_apDrivingFlag is ever set to false
Yes, the problem is I assumed aircraft with an explicit GPS instrument are
using a fully configured setup, but in fact many (such as yours) are listing an
explicit GPS in instrumentation.xml, but relying on the default configuration.
These problems are because long ago it was decided it would be a good idea to
have the route-manager, GPS AP work in aircraft which never had such things
in real-life (Spitfires, Cubs…) , so we have to (in C++) decide if the user is
asking for a simulated GPS (which should obey electrical power, and often needs
manual synchronisation of the GPS course - CDI course, and maybe no AP at all
all), or if they are asking for the internal features to 'just work'
regardless.
Anyway, for now the fix is just to go back to the old situation, where we
assume the user wants the GPS to drive the AP all the time.
Longer term, I think I will contemplate a more radical renaming to fix the
issue, where explicit simulated GPSs such as the Garmins and so on use a
different instrument name. ('real-gps' or something) Then I could assume any
aircraft requesting a 'gps' instrument is legacy and wants the old behaviour,
but remove all the awkward defaults for people who really want full simulation.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
Anyway, for now the fix is just to go back to the old situation, where we
assume the user wants the GPS to |drive the AP all the time
If you refer to your last fix (yesterday) , it is not sufficient,
since like said the /autopilot/settings/gps-driving-true-heading property
is not set to true.
Thank
Ahmad
On 17 June 2013 15:50, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote:
On 17 Jun 2013, at 14:41, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote:
though not sure
gps.cxx line 774
if (!_config.driveAutopilot() || !_defaultGPSMode) {
_apDrivingFlag-setBoolValue(false);
isn't it that strange ?
_apDrivingFlag is ever set to false
Yes, the problem is I assumed aircraft with an explicit GPS instrument are
using a fully configured setup, but in fact many (such as yours) are
listing an explicit GPS in instrumentation.xml, but relying on the default
configuration.
These problems are because long ago it was decided it would be a good idea
to have the route-manager, GPS AP work in aircraft which never had such
things in real-life (Spitfires, Cubs…) , so we have to (in C++) decide if
the user is asking for a simulated GPS (which should obey electrical power,
and often needs manual synchronisation of the GPS course - CDI course, and
maybe no AP at all all), or if they are asking for the internal features to
'just work' regardless.
Anyway, for now the fix is just to go back to the old situation, where we
assume the user wants the GPS to drive the AP all the time.
Longer term, I think I will contemplate a more radical renaming to fix the
issue, where explicit simulated GPSs such as the Garmins and so on use a
different instrument name. ('real-gps' or something) Then I could assume
any aircraft requesting a 'gps' instrument is legacy and wants the old
behaviour, but remove all the awkward defaults for people who really want
full simulation.
Regards,
James
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
On 17 Jun 2013, at 15:41, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: If you refer to your last fix (yesterday) , it is not sufficient, since like said the /autopilot/settings/gps-driving-true-heading property is not set to true. No, I need to make further tweak this evening, don't worry :) Regards, James -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
Just tested with the Cub, working perfectly. Thank a lot Ahmad On 17 June 2013 16:42, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 17 Jun 2013, at 15:41, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: If you refer to your last fix (yesterday) , it is not sufficient, since like said the /autopilot/settings/gps-driving-true-heading property is not set to true. No, I need to make further tweak this evening, don't worry :) Regards, James -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
The autopilot and route manager are working for me in Boeing 777-200, but the airport/waypoint lookup box in the GPS window is missing. Saikrishna Arcot On Sun 16 Jun 2013 07:09:22 AM CDT, grtuxhangar team wrote: Hello, For the record With FG Git : I cannot get working the autopilot with the route manager, we had an automatic update of the autopilot box , by getting a GPS button , when a way point was activated within the route manager. That feature is not longer working. We had within the GPS box ( menu equipment gps ) , within closest or search by name , the required airport id. That feature is not longer working Thank Ahmad -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
On 16 Jun 2013, at 13:09, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: For the record With FG Git : I cannot get working the autopilot with the route manager, we had an automatic update of the autopilot box , by getting a GPS button , when a way point was activated within the route manager. That feature is not longer working. We had within the GPS box ( menu equipment gps ) , within closest or search by name , the required airport id. That feature is not longer working They're temporarily broken, not definitively broken :) I was travelling most of last week and then had to rebuild my laptop due to a failed hard-drive, later today / next week I'll be looking at a collection of related route-manager / flight-plan / GPS issues. It will help to have very precise test cases in the bug-tracker, since when I did some limited testing two weeks ago, I found searching by nearest or name did work. So really I would like to see very exact steps to reproduce, not simple 'is not working'. Regards, James -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
Hello, It will help to have very precise test cases in the bug-tracker, since when I did some limited testing two weeks ago, I found searching by nearest or name did work. So really I would like to see very exact steps to reproduce, not simple 'is not working'. Which become an other topic :) The last time i notified a bug within bug-tracker ( was bug to me since was working with previous version ) i got an answer your request is a new feature Since to me, by using the devel list it can open a talk about the issue if it is an issue. Thank BTW: i did notice the problem with a simple aircraft without any embedded NAV AP ( Cub ) Ahmad On 16 June 2013 15:05, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 16 Jun 2013, at 13:09, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: For the record With FG Git : I cannot get working the autopilot with the route manager, we had an automatic update of the autopilot box , by getting a GPS button , when a way point was activated within the route manager. That feature is not longer working. We had within the GPS box ( menu equipment gps ) , within closest or search by name , the required airport id. That feature is not longer working They're temporarily broken, not definitively broken :) I was travelling most of last week and then had to rebuild my laptop due to a failed hard-drive, later today / next week I'll be looking at a collection of related route-manager / flight-plan / GPS issues. It will help to have very precise test cases in the bug-tracker, since when I did some limited testing two weeks ago, I found searching by nearest or name did work. So really I would like to see very exact steps to reproduce, not simple 'is not working'. Regards, James -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
On 16 Jun 2013, at 13:09, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot get working the autopilot with the route manager, we had an automatic update of the autopilot box , by getting a GPS button , when a way point was activated within the route manager. That feature is not longer working. I need some help understanding this one, since you don't like to use the bug tracker please list the exact steps to reproduce the issue. We had within the GPS box ( menu equipment gps ) , within closest or search by name , the required airport id. That feature is not longer working I've just pushed a fix to the GPS box which should fix this issue, please test and let me know. (fix is in fgdata) Thanks, James-- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
Yes, i can first, the screenshot done with my working FG version ( was an old GIT version ) with its own fgdata https://3291185c-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/grtuxhangarctd/other-download/fgfs-screen-511.jpg you can notice within the autopilot box Heading setting the GPS/FMS heading is exposed after i had Activated within the Route Manager the airport way point (KSFO) and the screenshot done with the last FG Git version with the last fgdata you can notice within the autopilot box Heading setting the GPS/FMS is missing, in spite of i had Activated within the Route Manager the airport way point (KSFO) https://3291185c-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/grtuxhangarctd/other-download/fgfs-screen-512.jpg Both same place , same computer.. Thank Ahmad On 16 June 2013 16:10, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: On 16 Jun 2013, at 13:09, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot get working the autopilot with the route manager, we had an automatic update of the autopilot box , by getting a GPS button , when a way point was activated within the route manager. That feature is not longer working. I need some help understanding this one, since you don't like to use the bug tracker please list the exact steps to reproduce the issue. We had within the GPS box ( menu equipment gps ) , within closest or search by name , the required airport id. That feature is not longer working I've just pushed a fix to the GPS box which should fix this issue, please test and let me know. (fix is in fgdata) Thanks, James -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot, Way point, GPS definitively broken ?
On 16 Jun 2013, at 15:46, grtuxhangar team hohora...@gmail.com wrote: Both same place , same computer.. I've just pushed a fix to FlightGear, which fixes part of this for the Cub. Please test and let me know if things are improved! Regards, James-- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
