Re: [Flightgear-users] Flyable aircraft

2002-01-01 Thread louis holleman
On 16 Oct 2004 at 14:05, Andreas wrote:

 
 I'm not claiming to be a real pilot: I'm not. I can accept this kind of 
 behaviour for the c172 since I've never even been in one. If pilots say 
 this is the way it behaves, I accept it.

Neither am I. I don't have probs with a/c simulating torque effects or don't fly 
perfectly 
straight when you don't coounteract. I do have probs with relatively simple a/c which 
require you to frantically operate your stick, pedals or whatever you try to control 
it with 
and dive nose down after a few secs. Even a sim should be some fun. As for now, the 
172 1981 model is the only 1 I can enjoy, good enough coz it's mainly the scenery I 
keep FG for (yes folks, a free sim beats Fly and a lot of others just on scenery).
 
 What I don't want to keep doing is asking myself this question: wow, is 
 this really so? Or is this one of those planes whose model is still 
 being worked on?.

Same here.

 I agree about the panels. I don't mind having 3D cockpits, just give me 
 working instruments.

Exactly
 
 Now, I'm perfectly happy with the c172. It's great flying and learning. 
 I just whish there were more good aircrafts like this one. But this is a 
 free project, and people have a life.

You know, Fly was a commercial project. Lotsa people been spending lotsa time to 
develop improved versions of existing a/c in Fly or add completely new ones: the J3, 
Texan, C130, several versions of the 747 and many more have been made available for 
Fly for free, including completely new designed panels (some of em were based on 
FlightSimulator ones tho') and except for a MD82 beta I tried, none of em had real 
probs when they were released. 
The big problem is that FG now is one of the few choices one has when trying 
flightsimming, with Fly and Propilot being discontinued. In order to keep new users 
(who 
might be taking their very first steps into flightsimming) I think it would be very 
wise to 
limit the base package to the a/c which are foolproof and work more or less the way 
they should, including NAV's and AP, and make the 'beta and alpha planes available to 
them who are willing to crash every 5 mins. That's my 5 cents on it.

Louis



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Re: [Flightgear-users] Flyable aircraft

2002-01-01 Thread David Culp
 The 737 is a really nice piece of work but the FDM needs a little tweaking.
 It gets into a strange yaw oscillation under nearly any circumstance that
 gets really annoying after a few minutes.  :)

 I really wish I could help out with some of the aircraft but getting info
 is really difficult and working on FDM's is way past my ability and
 intelligence.


You CAN help.  Can you start by describing the flight condition that leads to 
the yaw oscillation?  I'll need to reproduce this same flight condition so I 
can see what's happening first.

Right now I don't see the oscillation.


Dave
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