[Flightgear-users] Spitfire issues
http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topicforum=198topic_id=303mode=full Ampere ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] Same Problem as usual with new versions !
Hello everybody ! I'm using FG for some time and I have noticed that a lot o users have problems with the instalation ! In Windows FGFS is installing fine ! I was working with windows and FGFS in the period of FGFS version 0.9.1 and I had the same problems like all others ... Steps : -I download Windows binaries OK -I install FGFS OK -I fly a short takeoff/land on KSFO ...OK -I close FGFS launch interface OK But when I try to start again ERROR !!! Solution ...reinstall FGFS ! In that time it worked ... for me ! Now I'm using LINUX ... I've worked a lot with FGFS in some computations . I wanted to install FGFS v 0.9.6 a few days ago ... Failuire ! Every thong was fine ... -download plib 1.8 -downlaod SimGear 3.7 -Downlaod FGFS -base pakage -Downlaod FGFS -source code -login CVS on OpenAL site Build,Build,Build But again ERROR . FGFS does not want to compile !!! And now I still work with the version 0.9.1 because I've found one in my old Backup CD's ...and is a .rpm file ! Could someone explain me what is not working !!! I wait for help ! I'm not afraid of typing and tweaking ! I've noticed how prompt you all are !!! Thanks! = Stefan Palade ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Version 0.9.6 crashes on WinXP SP2
Ampere K. Hardraade a écrit : http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_mesgforum=198topic_id=302mesg_id=302page= For people having difficulties to catch the output of the FG console, I built this fgrun : ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/fgrun-0.4.5-with-console.zip that catch those output and stay opened as long as fgrun run. On a general basis, I am very sorry to hear that the build I provide crash for some people. Unfortunately, PC setup are so diverse that I can't reproduce every possible combinaison. And there are so few MSVC programmers here that people able to give insightful hint about a possible problem are reduced to a very small group. -Fred ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] Spitfire issues
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Sent: 17 October 2004 07:58 To: FlightGear user discussions Subject: [Flightgear-users] Spitfire issues http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topicforum=198topic_id=303m ode=full Thanks Ampere. I'm on the case. There's a bug somewhere in sound.xml or submodels.xml. Vivian ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Same Problem as usual with new versions !
Stefan Lucian Palade a écrit : Hello everybody ! I'm using FG for some time and I have noticed that a lot o users have problems with the instalation ! In Windows FGFS is installing fine ! I was working with windows and FGFS in the period of FGFS version 0.9.1 and I had the same problems like all others ... Steps : -I download Windows binaries OK -I install FGFS OK -I fly a short takeoff/land on KSFO ...OK -I close FGFS launch interface OK But when I try to start again ERROR !!! Solution ...reinstall FGFS ! In that time it worked ... for me ! Now I'm using LINUX ... I've worked a lot with FGFS in some computations . I wanted to install FGFS v 0.9.6 a few days ago ... Failuire ! Every thong was fine ... -download plib 1.8 -downlaod SimGear 3.7 -Downlaod FGFS -base pakage -Downlaod FGFS -source code -login CVS on OpenAL site Build,Build,Build But again ERROR . FGFS does not want to compile !!! And now I still work with the version 0.9.1 because I've found one in my old Backup CD's ...and is a .rpm file ! Could someone explain me what is not working !!! I wait for help ! I'm not afraid of typing and tweaking ! I've noticed how prompt you all are !!! Thanks! *You* should first explain what is not working for *you*. After that, we can try to help you -Fred ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] Spitfire issues
I wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vivian Meazza Sent: 17 October 2004 11:27 To: 'FlightGear user discussions' Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] Spitfire issues Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Sent: 17 October 2004 07:58 To: FlightGear user discussions Subject: [Flightgear-users] Spitfire issues http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topicforum=198topic_id=303m ode=full Thanks Ampere. I'm on the case. There's a bug somewhere in sound.xml or submodels.xml. I think I solved that one: there's a file missing in Models/Geometry. I've got an update almost ready to go for the Spitfire (which now includes a Seafire LIIIc). I'll probably be ready to forward the update for uploading to cvs later today/early tomorrow. My apologies to anyone who has been inconvenienced by this bug. Vivian ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] Building Simgear
Francisco Rinaldo wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Sent: 16 October 2004 22:23 To: flightgear-users Subject: [Flightgear-users] Building Simgear I´still trying to compile the program, and i still stop in the same point. I´ve downloaded and installed openal_cyg (Thanks Vivian) and I´ve done everything from fresh but during make when cygwin starts making all in sound, there is a lot of messages like this: openal_teste1.o(.text+oxfd4):/usr/local/source/simgear-0.3.7/simgear/sound/openal_test1 .cxx:134:undefined reference to `_alSourcei same _alsourcecef, _alsourcecefv make: ***{all -recursive} error 1 I do no what to do . Could anyone help me? You may need to add this to your .bash_profile file: LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib CXXFLAGS=-pipe -O2 -Wall -DWIN32 -DNOMINMAX -DHAVE_WINDOWS_H CFLAGS=$CXXFLAGS export LDFLAGS export CXXFLAGS export CFLAGS Then restart cygwin and recompile all from scratch. Regards Vivian PS please use plain text in your posts it really is easier for us (well me anyway J) to reply. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Flyable aircraft
Shucks ... I can't get FG running again (keeps aborting on joystick bindings) but I was getting the yaw oscillations at about 2000 feet in level flight at about 250 knots (clean configuration). When I manage to get FG running again I'll set up a proper problem scenario. Paul On Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:36, David Culp wrote: The 737 is a really nice piece of work but the FDM needs a little tweaking. It gets into a strange yaw oscillation under nearly any circumstance that gets really annoying after a few minutes. :) I really wish I could help out with some of the aircraft but getting info is really difficult and working on FDM's is way past my ability and intelligence. You CAN help. Can you start by describing the flight condition that leads to the yaw oscillation? I'll need to reproduce this same flight condition so I can see what's happening first. Right now I don't see the oscillation. Dave ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] First things first !
Ok ! Good question ! I've tested (in the morning) all the aircrafts from version 0.9.1 and there are few of them who are not working at all( interface crash ! console ok).I've seen the e-mail from yesterday about the aircrafts that dont fly ! and now I'm building a list of thoes who fly ! But my problem is that the version 0.9.6 is not working on my linux sistem !!! I've downloaded FGFS for Windows v.0.9.6 and is working . but I want v.0.9.6 on linux. OK ! Hope I've made myself understood ! Thanks !!! = Stefan Palade ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] First things first !
Stefan Lucian Palade a écrit : Ok ! Good question ! I've tested (in the morning) all the aircrafts from version 0.9.1 and there are few of them who are not working at all( interface crash ! console ok).I've seen the e-mail from yesterday about the aircrafts that dont fly ! and now I'm building a list of thoes who fly ! But my problem is that the version 0.9.6 is not working on my linux sistem !!! I've downloaded FGFS for Windows v.0.9.6 and is working . but I want v.0.9.6 on linux. OK ! Hope I've made myself understood ! Thanks !!! No because you still do not tell us what is going wrong when you try to build FG on Linux. Listing the error messages could be a begining. -Fred ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] Recompiling FGFS in mobile link to PC from home !
Is this normal in OpenAL: #sh ./autogen.sh WARNING: Using auxiliary files such as `acconfig.h', `config.h.bot' WARNING: and `config.h.top', to define templates for `config.h.in' WARNING: is deprecated and discouraged. WARNING: Using the third argument of `AC_DEFINE' and WARNING: `AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED' allows to define a template without WARNING: `acconfig.h': WARNING: AC_DEFINE([NEED_MAIN], 1, WARNING: [Define if a function `main' is needed.]) WARNING: More sophisticated templates can also be produced, see the WARNING: documentation. = Stefan Palade __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Same Problem as usual with new versions !
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Stefan Lucian Palade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snip ] Now I'm using LINUX ... I've worked a lot with FGFS in some computations . I wanted to install FGFS v 0.9.6 a few days ago ... Failuire ! Every thong was fine ... -download plib 1.8 -downlaod SimGear 3.7 -Downlaod FGFS -base pakage -Downlaod FGFS -source code -login CVS on OpenAL site Build,Build,Build But again ERROR . FGFS does not want to compile !!! And now I still work with the version 0.9.1 because I've found one in my old Backup CD's ...and is a .rpm file ! Could someone explain me what is not working !!! I wait for help ! I'm not afraid of typing and tweaking ! How can we explain what's not working, when you haven't told us what the problem is? Imagine that I said to you my car isn't working; can you tell me what's wrong? You'd say not without more information. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear pgphcWd39LG8u.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Flyable aircraft
David Culp wrote: I see that too. The condition is nothing special actually. Just fly level and try a left turn. In my case, the nose will first go the right and then the aircraft will start turning left. Almost like the left bank caused a right rudder reaction for a while. I can't reproduce that. Can you send me the 737.xml file you're using so I can compare it with mine? It's the one from the 0.9.6 base package. Attached. I just flew it and I could reproduce it, but not always. My conditions were: - straight flight - 34000 feet of altitude - 290 knots airspeed - mach 0.85 A little left bank was preceeded by a right one. Also, the vertical speed indicator is not working (and the AP is not working also, but I guess you know that already). My ~/.fgfsrc is also attached. --fg-root=/usr/share/FlightGear --control=joystick --enable-game-mode --fog-nicest --enable-random-objects --enable-ai-models --prop:/environment/params/real-world-weather-fetch=true --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[1]/binding/command=property-scale --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[1]/binding/property=/controls/flight/elevator --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[1]/binding/dead-band=0.02 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[1]/binding/offset=0.0 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[1]/binding/factor=1.0 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[0]/binding/command=property-scale --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[0]/binding/property=/controls/flight/aileron --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[0]/binding/dead-band=0.02 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[0]/binding/offset=0.0 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[0]/binding/factor=1.0 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[2]/binding/command=property-scale --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[2]/binding/property=/controls/flight/rudder --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[2]/binding/dead-band=0.9 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[2]/binding/offset=0.0 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[2]/binding/factor=1.0 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[3]/binding/command=property-scale --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[3]/binding/property=/controls/engines/engine/throttle --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[3]/binding/dead-band=0.02 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[3]/binding/offset=-1.0 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/axis[3]/binding/factor=-0.5 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[4]/binding/repeatable=false --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[4]/binding/command=property-adjust --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[4]/binding/property=/controls/gear/brake-left --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[4]/binding/step=1 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[7]/binding/repeatable=false --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[7]/binding/command=property-adjust --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[7]/binding/property=/controls/gear/brake-right --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[7]/binding/step=1 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[5]/binding/repeatable=false --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[5]/binding/command=property-adjust --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[5]/binding/property=/controls/flight/flaps --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[5]/binding/step=0.34 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[6]/binding/repeatable=false --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[6]/binding/command=property-adjust --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[6]/binding/property=/controls/flight/flaps --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[6]/binding/step=-0.34 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[2]/binding/repeatable=true --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[2]/binding/command=property-adjust --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[2]/binding/property=/controls/flight/elevator-trim --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[2]/binding/step=0.001 --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[1]/binding/repeatable=true --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[1]/binding/command=property-adjust --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[1]/binding/property=/controls/flight/elevator-trim --prop:/input/joysticks/js[0]/button[1]/binding/step=-0.001 FDM_CONFIG NAME=737 VERSION=1.65 RELEASE=BETA !-- File: 737.xml Author: Aero-Matic v 0.7, David Culp Inputs: name: 737 type: two-engine transonic transport max weight:13.0 lb wing span: 94.75 ft length:109.6 ft wing area: 1135 sq-ft gear type: tricycle retractable?: yes # engines: 2 engine type: turbine engine layout: wings yaw damper?yes Outputs: wing loading: 114.54 lb/sq-ft CL-alpha: 4.4 per radian CL-0: 0.2 CL-max:1.2 CD-0: 0.02 K: 0.043 -- METRICS AC_WINGAREA 1171.0 AC_WINGSPAN 94.7 AC_CHORD 12.31 AC_HTAILAREA 348.0 AC_HTAILARM 48.04 AC_VTAILAREA 297.00 AC_LV44.50 AC_IXX 562000.0 AC_IYY 1473000.0 AC_IZZ 1894000.0 AC_IXZ 8000 AC_EMPTYWT 83000 AC_CGLOC 639.0 0.0 -40.0 AC_AERORP625.0 0.0 24.0 AC_EYEPTLOC 80.0 -30.0 70.0 AC_VRP
Re: [Flightgear-users] Flyable aircraft
Andreas wrote: It's the one from the 0.9.6 base package. Attached. I just flew it and I could reproduce it, but not always. My conditions were: - straight flight - 34000 feet of altitude - 290 knots airspeed - mach 0.85 A little left bank was preceeded by a right one. Also, the vertical speed indicator is not working (and the AP is not working also, but I guess you know that already). My ~/.fgfsrc is also attached. --fg-root=/usr/share/FlightGear --control=joystick --enable-game-mode --fog-nicest --enable-random-objects --enable-ai-models --prop:/environment/params/real-world-weather-fetch=true These oscillations can happen when new weather is fetched. I would urge to try without this option and then report back. Erik ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Simgear ERROR !!!
Stefan Lucian Palade wrote: Ok now i have an error for you ! so what's wrong here ? It looks like you don't have the header files of OpenAL installed. You will have to do a make install for OpenAL or install dhe openal-dev package first. Erik () ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] (OT) SAFe-mail.net
David Culp wrote: When posting here I keep getting a bounce from [EMAIL PROTECTED] saying that I'm not on the recipient's Allowed List. I would click the secure link as instructed except it looks like it would make a great email harvesting tool. Is SAFe-mail legit? What if we all used it? Wouldn't that make a huge mess? It is getting annoying... Erik (No, I don't want to be a trusted user) ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] First things first !
I can only run 0.9.5 on Mandrake 9.2. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one having hassles. Version 0.9.6 and CVS abort during loading without any errors even with log-level on any of the settings. I also see no way of disabling display lists during configure which I have a suspicion is causing the problems in some way do to some threading issues. Paul On Sunday, 17 October 2004 14:39, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Stefan Lucian Palade a écrit : Ok ! Good question ! I've tested (in the morning) all the aircrafts from version 0.9.1 and there are few of them who are not working at all( interface crash ! console ok).I've seen the e-mail from yesterday about the aircrafts that dont fly ! and now I'm building a list of thoes who fly ! But my problem is that the version 0.9.6 is not working on my linux sistem !!! I've downloaded FGFS for Windows v.0.9.6 and is working . but I want v.0.9.6 on linux. OK ! Hope I've made myself understood ! Thanks !!! No because you still do not tell us what is going wrong when you try to build FG on Linux. Listing the error messages could be a begining. -Fred ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Flyable aircraft
--prop:/environment/params/real-world-weather-fetch=true These oscillations can happen when new weather is fetched. I would urge to try without this option and then report back. Ok. BTW, is there an option to make flightgear output the whole flight to a file so that you could take a look at it and perhaps even watch FG doing my flight? ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] OpenAL devel ?
Stefan Lucian Palade wrote: No this is not the problem ! I've installed OpenAL from CVS just yesterday morning (17 Oct.) But where can I find OpenAL devel pakage ? Thanks to you all who answer my questions = Stefan Palade www.openal.org Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =LINUX ONLY USED HERE= ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] Building Simgear
Hi, All I Still have errors trying to compile Simgear. Everything is ok until compiling ( make ) in sound. There are some eroors messages when compliling sample_openal.cxx : Parse error before token {, undefined references for example _alSourcef , _alSourcei and others It seems the code is not correct, Impossible I´m start thinking I`m not correct ... This is What I have plib-1.8.3 simgear-0.3.7 openal_cyg don´t have metakit Could anyone help? Regards___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d