[Flightgear-users] A few questions
Ok folks, I have the 0.9.8a windows version working 50% stable on my PC. I have even been able to find Lampson field 1O2 in Lake County CA! However there are several errors showing up on the FGFS dos window. For instance I am flying from Sonoma Valley 0Q3 with aircraft pa28-161 and I get the following message. Failed to find runway 28R at airport 0Q3 WARNING: Legacy engine definition in YASim configuration file. Please fix. Sonoma has runway # 07x, 17x, 25, 35 I left the runway on default. Do I need to specify the runway? How do I fix the YASim engine problem? If I select location/position in air and specify Lampson 1o2 I get this error. Unknown runway code 07x passed to GetReverseRunwayNo(...) Failed to find runway 07x at airport 0Q3 WARNING: Legacy engine definition in YASim configuration file. Please fix. Failed to find runway 28 at airport 1o2 Failed to find a good runway for 1o2 WARNING: Legacy engine definition in YASim configur I also have seen something about stability % once or twice and the aircraft was not managable at all. I don't know how this works under Unix but in the flightgear wizard there is an advanced button and I am also unable to modify any of the parameters under the General heading. For instance it shows the airport, aircraft and runway but I cannot enter another airport etc... Is there a file I need to edit to change the default startup values? I would like to fly out of Lakport CA Lampson field as I know the area pretty well now I have been here 6 years. It's kind of a pain to keep having to position back to 1O2/Lampson everytime I start the program. Another weird thing was I saw something in the FGFS dos window about missing scenery like tall buildings/skyscrapers, HA we don't even have 10 foot of railroad track in this county let alone skyscrapers. I didn't know there was anywhere in the US that didn't have a few rail lines but Lake county has none. I came from New Jersey and there were rail lines everywhere. Anyone know what 10 degree segment has north New Jersey on it? I could download that instead as I am also familiar with most of NJ from NY border to about Trenton east to west. I am looking to learn some basics of flying, perhaps getting a student permit a year or so from now and would really like to get FG working with a good set of data that is in an area I know from the ground. Thanks, Kristin __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] A few questions
Kristin I have the 0.9.8a windows version working 50% stable on my PC. I have even been able to find Lampson field 1O2 in Lake County CA! However there are several errors showing up on the FGFS dos window. For instance I am flying from Sonoma Valley 0Q3 with aircraft pa28-161 and I get the following message. Failed to find runway 28R at airport 0Q3 WARNING: Legacy engine definition in YASim configuration file. Please fix. Sonoma has runway # 07x, 17x, 25, 35 I left the runway on default. Do I need to specify the runway? You don't have to. Use --runway= if you want How do I fix the YASim engine problem? You don't: it's down to the aircraft developer for that particular model If I select location/position in air and specify Lampson 1o2 I get this error. Unknown runway code 07x passed to GetReverseRunwayNo(...) Failed to find runway 07x at airport 0Q3 WARNING: Legacy engine definition in YASim configuration file. Please fix. Failed to find runway 28 at airport 1o2 Failed to find a good runway for 1o2 WARNING: Legacy engine definition in YASim configur I also have seen something about stability % once or twice and the aircraft was not managable at all. I don't know how this works under Unix but in the flightgear wizard there is an advanced button and I am also unable to modify any of the parameters under the General heading. For instance it shows the airport, aircraft and runway but I cannot enter another airport etc... Is there a file I need to edit to change the default startup values? I would like to fly out of Lakport CA Lampson field as I know the area pretty well now I have been here 6 years. It's kind of a pain to keep having to position back to 1O2/Lampson everytime I start the program. There is, (system.fgfsrc), but that's not easy for beginners: fgrun will do everything you need. Another weird thing was I saw something in the FGFS dos window about missing scenery like tall buildings/skyscrapers, HA we don't even have 10 foot of railroad track in this county let alone skyscrapers. I didn't know there was anywhere in the US that didn't have a few rail lines but Lake county has none. I came from New Jersey and there were rail lines everywhere. Use --disable-random-objects. Anyone know what 10 degree segment has north New Jersey on it? I could download that instead as I am also familiar with most of NJ from NY border to about Trenton east to west. No - use the graphical scenery download interface. I am looking to learn some basics of flying, perhaps getting a student permit a year or so from now and would really like to get FG working with a good set of data that is in an area I know from the ground. FGFS is a good route to go down. Try using the Hunter first off - that's probably the easiest to fly, if your hardware is up to it. Otherwise use the default aircraft. But you'll have to get used to the prop effects. Basically you have a working 0.9.8a system, so far as I can see. Ignore the warnings and learn to fly. Regards, Vivian ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] next trick
Josh Babcock wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: On Monday 20 Jun 2005 20:34, Josh Babcock wrote: Tell me which of your planes you would like to see improved. Ah - an easy question ;) All of them:))) No seriously, I'm pretty bad picking what I want to do. How about this: Canberra (how come it's not in CVS?) or TSR-2. You pick, I do the 3-D cockpit and any stray bells and whistles I can think of. They both have plenty of data out there including manuals available on CD. I'm still gonna do the B-47, I love that plane. Just not now, you guys are right, completing existing planes should be the priority. Josh ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d OK, fine. I'll do the Canberra. Three of them live around here, though on is at the Smithsonian and not on display. They don't let people look at those anymore. Unfortunately these are all RB-75 a's and b's which have the greenhouse cockpit. None of the american versions had the I8 cockpit layout but maybe I can get some useful data. At the least I can take some reference shots of the landing gear. Josh ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: the nimitz_demo HOW??
Okay, so I commented out all but one scenario (nimitz_demo) took out pathnames and extensions, and still no Nimitz. Is there anything else in preferences.xml that needs to be defined, modified etc., - do I have to fly a specific aircraft - what am I doing wrong? JB ai enabled type="bool" true/enabled !--- Demo Mode: Comment to disable -- scenarionimitz_demo.xml/scenario scenarioaircraft_demo.xml/scenario scenariothunderstorm_demo/scenario scenarioship_demo/scenario /ai You can only run one AI scenario at a time. You can, however, combine bits from other scenarios into one scenario file. The file for your scenario must be in the directory data/Data/AI. You don't include the extension. For example: ai enabled type="bool" true/enabled scenarionimitz_demo/scenario /ai Dave ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: the nimitz_demo HOW??
Am Mittwoch 22 Juni 2005 17:51 schrieb JB: Okay, so I commented out all but one scenario (nimitz_demo) took out pathnames and extensions, and still no Nimitz. Is there anything else in preferences.xml that needs to be defined, modified etc., - do I have to fly a specific aircraft - what am I doing wrong? JB Maybe you have to enable the ai-traffic? To get the uss nimitz, I wrote the following to my preferences.xml. ai-traffic enabled type=booltrue/enabled level type=int1/level /ai-traffic ai enabled type=booltrue/enabled scenarionimitz_demo/scenario !-- scenarioaircraft_demo/scenario -- /ai regards bernhard ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: the nimitz_demo HOW??
Bernhard Auzinger wrote: Am Mittwoch 22 Juni 2005 17:51 schrieb JB: Okay, so I commented out all but one scenario (nimitz_demo) took out pathnames and extensions, and still no Nimitz. Is there anything else in preferences.xml that needs to be defined, modified etc., - do I have to fly a specific aircraft - what am I doing wrong? JB Maybe you have to enable the ai-traffic? To get the uss nimitz, I wrote the following to my preferences.xml. ai-traffic enabled type="bool"true/enabled level type="int"1/level /ai-traffic ai enabled type="bool"true/enabled scenarionimitz_demo/scenario !-- scenarioaircraft_demo/scenario -- /ai regards bernhard Well, ai-traffic is enabled just as in your example. If the nimitz is there, it must be that new stealth carrier ;-/ cause I don't see it in the bay or off shore. Where exactly should I look for it. Very strange. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] next trick
On Wednesday 22 Jun 2005 15:48, Josh Babcock wrote: Josh Babcock wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: On Monday 20 Jun 2005 20:34, Josh Babcock wrote: Tell me which of your planes you would like to see improved. Ah - an easy question ;) All of them:))) No seriously, I'm pretty bad picking what I want to do. How about this: Canberra (how come it's not in CVS?) or TSR-2. You pick, I do the 3-D cockpit and any stray bells and whistles I can think of. They both have plenty of data out there including manuals available on CD. I'm still gonna do the B-47, I love that plane. Just not now, you guys are right, completing existing planes should be the priority. Josh ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d OK, fine. I'll do the Canberra. Three of them live around here, though on is at the Smithsonian and not on display. They don't let people look at those anymore. Unfortunately these are all RB-75 a's and b's which have the greenhouse cockpit. None of the american versions had the I8 cockpit layout but maybe I can get some useful data. At the least I can take some reference shots of the landing gear. Josh Great stuff - go to it:) I've got some photos of the nav and pilot positions that might help - I'll PM them to you. LeeE ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
RE: [Flightgear-users] Re: the nimitz_demo HOW??
Bernhard Auzinger Well, ai-traffic is enabled just as in your example. If the nimitz is there, it must be that new stealth carrier ;-/ cause I don't see it in the bay or off shore. Where exactly should I look for it. Very strange. The uss-nimitz at the default scenery should be right of the KSFO (the default airport when starting fgfs in the default scenery). Take a look: http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0026053/uss-nimitz1.jpg http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0026053/uss-nimitz2.jpg http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0026053/uss-nimitz-flyby.jpg This is an extract of my preferences.xml file: ai-traffic enabled type=boolfalse/enabled level type=int1/level /ai-traffic traffic-manager enabled type=boolfalse/enabled /traffic-manager ai enabled type=booltrue/enabled scenarionimitz_demo/scenario !-- scenarioaircraft_demo/scenario -- /ai Nimitz works here. Who needs a hook? http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/vmeazza/FlightGear/fgfs-screen-015.jpg You should be able to see the carrier while at the end of 28R at ksfo. Regards Vivian ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: Joystick setup
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:26, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Laurie Bradshaw -- Monday 20 June 2005 15:37: Just out of curiosity, what is fgjs for? I can't work out what to do with the output.. old method of doing things? You can use the output on the command line, or better: in a ~/.fgfsrc file, line by line. Should be explained in $FG_ROOT/Docs/README.joystick.html Yep, I do usually rtfm first :) The XML method is preferred for joysticks nowadays. The --prop:/ command is still very useful for other settings. Could I modify it to produce xml output instead? Who could stop you? ;-) Yes, that's probably a good idea, maybe have both ways and a switch to select (--xml or --prop or something). OK, I have an fgjs.cxx producing working --xml --prop outputs (and the obligatory --help). I also added a --deadband float option, as simply breathing on my joystick seems to count as moving an axis without it, also confirmation for each control that it was the control you wished to move/press, on the basis that starting over is more annoying that pressing 'y' 16 times. I tweaked the available controls a bit too (mainly added some). Any preferences for submission? -- Laurie Bradshaw ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: the nimitz_demo HOW??
Okay, I can now see the Nimitz! I had to choose the Hunter (carrier capable) aircraft before it would show. The question I now have is: Why? I know, I know, you can't land a T38 on a carrier, so why should it show. But that's not the point, I specified that it be there, it should be there regardless of the type of AC I've chosen. I guess the next question is: Where is it defined that the carrier show when flying a specific AC? A quick cursory examination of the Hunter xml file showed nothing specific to the Nimitz Demo, nor does the Nimitz demo specify a specific craft, so where is it? I mean, maybe I want to TRY and land a C172 on the carrier (seems more than possible to me), or even a T38 (baracade?) ... or the Concorde even just for giggles :-)) Can you specify the carrier as your "airport" and do cat launches? So, are the other AI's AC dependent? Sailboat; T-Storm; Refueling...? Thanks for the help! JB Vivian Meazza wrote: Bernhard Auzinger Well, ai-traffic is enabled just as in your example. If the nimitz is there, it must be that new stealth carrier ;-/ cause I don't see it in the bay or off shore. Where exactly should I look for it. Very strange. The uss-nimitz at the default scenery should be right of the KSFO (the default airport when starting fgfs in the default scenery). Take a look: http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0026053/uss-nimitz1.jpg http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0026053/uss-nimitz2.jpg http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0026053/uss-nimitz-flyby.jpg This is an extract of my preferences.xml file: ai-traffic enabled type="bool"false/enabled level type="int"1/level /ai-traffic traffic-manager enabled type="bool"false/enabled /traffic-manager ai enabled type="bool"true/enabled scenarionimitz_demo/scenario !-- scenarioaircraft_demo/scenario -- /ai Nimitz works here. Who needs a hook? http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/vmeazza/FlightGear/fgfs-screen-015.jpg You should be able to see the carrier while at the end of 28R at ksfo. Regards Vivian ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] Another question or 2
From the last reply I got it seems I should ignore the dos window warnings etc.. unless the program is not working at all. I know most uf the users are running unix/linux but I can't seem to get a distro of any form of Linux to run on my PC and work worth anything. So a few more questions. Can anyone on the list Please, tell me how to set up FG so the default airfield is 1o2 Lampson field, with a working runway? I noticed today if I reloaded all the items under the debug menu it looked like I had a semi-realistic look at Clearlake and some structures on the ground. Problem was the Dos window was showing it could not find the stuff for engine controls etc. The C-172 was all over the place and it was uncontrolable. Just some hints as to what files to edit, xml or ??? I would really like to know how to launch the program and not have to go through 37 steps before I got flying where I want to. I see there are some flight plans already in FG so could someone cobble one together and post it here or e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with an answer. Also does anyone know if the ATLAS add-on can be installed. Again I tried booting Linux Slax Linux live and was unable to do anything with the *.tgz file or the unpacked (with winrar) files. Thanks, Kristin Clearlake CA 95422 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d