RE: [Flightgear-users] OpenGL/Windows Knoppix
Hello Curtis: I understand, but I did offer this some time back, but Arnt thought it prudent to share with others. Some of it is becoming another subject, but I thought it was just a case of loading Knoppix and away we go! Obviously not, so I wait for Arnt to respond, as I do not want to get into this out of my depth. I still do not know about the graphics side! Thank you for your patience. Martin -Original Message- From: Curtis L. Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 6:46 AM To: FlightGear user discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] OpenGL/Windows Knoppix Hey guys, Some of this started out interesting, but at some point you might consider taking this offline into private email ... Curt. Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:11:39 +0100, MPCEE wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Arnt: The PC: Entered 'knoppix 2' followed by 'xf86cfg' but arrives at input signal out of reach! The same goes for 'startx' and init 5. Nothing is happening with 'init 2' either. Now 'expert', well lots of 'yes' and 'no', but still returns to input signal out of reach! I think this will be a case of knowing what to confirm or otherwise. ..stay mean, combine dirty tricks from http://knoppix.net/wiki/Cheat_Codes -Original Message- From: Arnt Karlsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 3:59 AM To: FlightGear user discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] OpenGL/Windows Knoppix On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:08:50 +0100, MPCEE wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Arnt: Just a quick message to let you know that 'knoppix xmodule=radeon' does not work! It starts to boot, but about half way through there is a lot of flashing of error text; too fast to know what all the lines say, but the boot finishes with Error: No suitable X-Server found for your card. Prior to this the text it mentions AGP modules! ..boot it with knoppix 2 , then play with xf86cfg and startx and init 5 , go back to the boot state with init 2 . ..or, get mean: boot it with expert . ;o) -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.org Unique text:2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] So what do you fly?
On Friday 04 Nov 2005 12:31, Jon Berndt wrote: Suhkoi 27 . . . Nato codename Flanker -- Fortune Cookie : How do I get HOME? ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] So what do you fly?
Le mardi 08 novembre 2005 à 14:32 +, David Ginger a écrit : On Friday 04 Nov 2005 12:31, Jon Berndt wrote: Suhkoi 27 . . . Nato codename Flanker That one ? http://ghours.club.fr/Flanker.jpg -- Gerard ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] Re: So what do you fly?
* Gerard ROBIN -- Tuesday 08 November 2005 16:28: http://ghours.club.fr/Flanker.jpg Wow! I just saw my next favorite. :-) m. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: So what do you fly?
Le mardi 08 novembre 2005 à 16:52 +0100, Melchior FRANZ a écrit : * Gerard ROBIN -- Tuesday 08 November 2005 16:28: http://ghours.club.fr/Flanker.jpg Wow! I just saw my next favorite. :-) m. May be later on. It will need many time to do it. Beautiful and difficult. That one is not free (built from several spare part model coming from mdl, three model + home detail and animation add on). The Su27 FDM will be a real problem, so i do use the Erik f15 FDM (good for F15 bad for Su27) Cheers -- Gerard ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] Re: So what do you fly?
* Gerard ROBIN -- Tuesday 08 November 2005 17:28: * Gerard ROBIN -- Tuesday 08 November 2005 16:28: http://ghours.club.fr/Flanker.jpg That one is not free (built from several spare part model coming from mdl, three model + home detail and animation add on). Oh, what a pity. (The Nimitz and the Concorde were also not made for FlightGear, but I found the authors and asked them if we could distribute them with fgfs under the GPL. They agreed. The Nimitz author also granted us to use *all* of his models. :-) m. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] F-15 (Was: So what do you fly?)
Gerard ROBIN wrote: The Su27 FDM will be a real problem, so i do use the Erik f15 FDM (good for F15 bad for Su27) Speaking of which, I've had a request for a better supported F-15 model. Does anybody want to take over maintaining that aircraft? The FDM should be really good, it just lags a lot of stuff like the 3d model and panel. Erik ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: So what do you fly?
Le mardi 08 novembre 2005 à 18:12 +0100, Melchior FRANZ a écrit : * Gerard ROBIN -- Tuesday 08 November 2005 17:28: * Gerard ROBIN -- Tuesday 08 November 2005 16:28: http://ghours.club.fr/Flanker.jpg That one is not free (built from several spare part model coming from mdl, three model + home detail and animation add on). Oh, what a pity. (The Nimitz and the Concorde were also not made for FlightGear, but I found the authors and asked them if we could distribute them with fgfs under the GPL. They agreed. The Nimitz author also granted us to use *all* of his models. :-) m. Sometime it is possible. With Su27 it is difficult because the authors don't authorize to modify the original MSFS package (mainly msfs2004 models) only texture can be modified (i have many beautiful a/c with that prohibition). -- Gerard ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] F-15 (Was: So what do you fly?)
Le mardi 08 novembre 2005 à 18:24 +0100, Erik Hofman a écrit : Gerard ROBIN wrote: The Su27 FDM will be a real problem, so i do use the Erik f15 FDM (good for F15 bad for Su27) Speaking of which, I've had a request for a better supported F-15 model. Does anybody want to take over maintaining that aircraft? The FDM should be really good, it just lags a lot of stuff like the 3d model and panel. Erik I have adapted a MSFS model for it, unfortunately we fall into the Su27 authorization PB The cockpit (i am not sure it is right to real) is partly from FG components (msfs panel are unusable) http://ghours.club.fr/F15E-ckpt.jpg http://ghours.club.fr/F15E-nasa.jpg (the weather is bad in KSFO) -- Gerard ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-users] ..help 64bit K8 hardware diagnosis for FG, was: OpenGL/Windows Knoppix
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:45:44 -0600, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey guys, Some of this started out interesting, but at some point you might consider taking this offline into private email ... Curt. ..sure, but I|we need help on the 64bit K8 hardware diagnosis: On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:42:59 +0100, Arnt wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:50:00 -0500, MPCEE wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Arnt: This is from the PC using Knoppix. ..this is a 64 bit AMD iron, AFAICT. LSPCI:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] lspci :00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5950 :00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5a34 :00:11.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 437a :00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4379 :00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4374 :00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4375 :00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4373 :00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4372 (rev 04) :00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4376 :00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4377 :00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4371 :00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4370 ..any of you guys recognise this above ATI hardware? Is it all 64bit or can it be made at least limping, coughing etc into life on 32bit code? :00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge :00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge :00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge :00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5b60 :01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5b70 :02:01.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics V.92 56K WinModem (rev 03) :02:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) :02:04.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80) [EMAIL PROTECTED] DMESG:- ata3: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/100, 390721968 sectors: lba48 ata3(0): applying Seagate errata fix ata3: dev 0 configured for UDMA/100 scsi2 : sata_sil ata4: no device found (phy stat ) scsi3 : sata_sil Vendor: ATA Model: ST3200822AS Rev: 3.02 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05 SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB) SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB) SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back sda: sda1 sda2 Attached scsi disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice EISA: Probing bus 0 at eisa.0 Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 4 EISA: Detected 0 cards. NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 32Kbytes TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) TCP bind hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 196608 bytes) TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 16384) NET: Registered protocol family 1 NET: Registered protocol family 15 ACPI wakeup devices: PCI0 USB0 USB1 USB2 AUDO P2P MAC ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5) RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 seagate: ST0x/TMC-8xx not detected. Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card! usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 ohci_hcd: 2004 Nov 08 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:13.0[A] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19 ohci_hcd :00:13.0: PCI device 1002:4374 (ATI Technologies Inc) ohci_hcd :00:13.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 ohci_hcd :00:13.0: irq 19, io mem 0xfe02d000 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 4 ports detected ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:13.1[A] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19 ohci_hcd :00:13.1: PCI device 1002:4375 (ATI Technologies Inc) ohci_hcd :00:13.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 ohci_hcd :00:13.1: irq 19, io mem 0xfe02c000 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 4 ports detected Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usb 1-4: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2 input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse on isa0060/serio1 scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered.
Re: [Flightgear-users] So what do you fly?
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:08:26 +0100, Gerard wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le mardi 08 novembre 2005 à 12:37 -0400, Enrique Vaamonde a écrit : Gerard ROBIN wrote: Le mardi 08 novembre 2005 à 14:32 +, David Ginger a écrit : On Friday 04 Nov 2005 12:31, Jon Berndt wrote: Suhkoi 27 . . . Nato codename Flanker That one ? http://ghours.club.fr/Flanker.jpg wow nice...do you know when is it going to be available ? cheers -E Sorry it is not available, If you red my previous mail you understood it is not GPL. ..you did ask the author? May be i could schedule to do the Su33 which is the Naval version. (Su33 on Nimitz that could be funny) Before i must achieve F8 Crusader and F4U Corsair, I do not work quickly. Cheers -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] So what do you fly?
Hi George, Thanks for the enthusiastic reply, I certainly have no problem making the source file available. My only reservation is; not having any classical programming training , people my scoff at my coding. at the moment it is only a front end to a MS Access DB that takes lat and long and works out great circle bearing, distance, eta. Then along the path will give course corrections and revised eta based on computed average speed.(from paused lat and long info from the HUD). A bit more effort will provide error checking and PDF access then I can put the code in the Pub. Dom. given a site I can upload it to. As for support, hmm I would really like NZ looking like NZ, it could be( but not necessarily) a reciprocal deal. An interface from a planner to FG sounds really good. cheers Dene -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 5/11/05 ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] ..help 64bit K8 hardware diagnosis for FG, was: OpenGL/Windows Knoppix
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:45:44 -0600, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey guys, Some of this started out interesting, but at some point you might consider taking this offline into private email ... Curt. ..sure, but I|we need help on the 64bit K8 hardware diagnosis: On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:42:59 +0100, Arnt wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:50:00 -0500, MPCEE wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Arnt: This is from the PC using Knoppix. ..this is a 64 bit AMD iron, AFAICT. LSPCI:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] lspci :00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5950 :00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5a34 :00:11.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 437a :00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4379 :00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4374 :00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4375 :00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4373 :00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4372 (rev 04) :00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4376 :00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4377 :00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4371 :00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4370 ..any of you guys recognise this above ATI hardware? Is it all 64bit or can it be made at least limping, coughing etc into life on 32bit code? You need an updated /usr/share/pci.ids file from pciids.sourceforge.net, these are some of the returns from the latest one . 4372 IXP SB400 SMBus Controller 5a34 RS480 PCI-X Root Port 4376 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller ATI 5b60 RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] STUFF DELETED Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] So what do you fly?
On Tuesday 08 Nov 2005 18:43, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:08:26 +0100, Gerard wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le mardi 08 novembre 2005 à 12:37 -0400, Enrique Vaamonde a écrit : Gerard ROBIN wrote: Le mardi 08 novembre 2005 à 14:32 +, David Ginger a écrit : On Friday 04 Nov 2005 12:31, Jon Berndt wrote: Suhkoi 27 . . . Nato codename Flanker That one ? http://ghours.club.fr/Flanker.jpg wow nice...do you know when is it going to be available ? cheers -E Sorry it is not available, If you red my previous mail you understood it is not GPL. ..you did ask the author? May be i could schedule to do the Su33 which is the Naval version. (Su33 on Nimitz that could be funny) Before i must achieve F8 Crusader and F4U Corsair, I do not work quickly. Cheers I've been planning to do an SU-37 because I want to play with canards and vectored thrust... Dunno how soon I'll get around to it though - still got a few other things to work on and finish. LeeE ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
