Re: [Flightgear-users] Running FG on win 98(not SE)
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 03:22 am, Kristin wrote: Jeremy, Thanks for the suggestions, I will probably download the cd images as $$$ is tight I use getright downloader so even if the connection closes I just redial and keep going so I can just download all night and part of the day. I downloaded about 1/2 a GIG last week prior to the crash and it was not too bad. I have a 56K connection at home and can sometimes manage 20meg/hr dowload at 4k/s. My sister lives 2 miles away and now has DSL and can do 200k/s so a 655K download can be done in less than a half hour. I saw Verizon laying orange cables down the road so maybe I'll have DSL soon. I'll look at distrowatch.com and see what is suggested but it seems since you either run Debian or know a lot about it that may be my choice. Hope you will not mind if I pick your brain if I get stuck getting it going. Could I use XOSL boot loader? I had that installed the other day and it seemed easy to use and modify. distrowatch lists Mandrake as the #1 distro selected by users. It's not the easiest and not the hardest. It is derived from RedHat. I haven't used RedHat in 4 or 5 yrs. There may not even be a RedHat anymore other than the commercial server edition which with support is $$$. I think that as RedHat/Fedora has gone commercial Mandrake has filled the void for a middle-of-the road non-commercial linux. In any event my first linux which I installed was RedHat 6.2 and it took me a weekend to install. The next installations got easier with automatic hardware identification and configuration. The last RedHat I used was 7.3. I've only tried Debian on two slow office machines that I had tried out with the Koppix livecd. For my home 2.8GHz athlon-xp I run sorcerer and have been very satisfied with it. Having installed both from pre-compiled binaries and from source code I prefer compiling if I have a fast enough computer. It takes longer initially to get a system up and running but then is much easier to maintain and upgrade software thereafter. In any event I would not switch back to pre-compiled distros but if I was new to linux and didn't know vi from ls from cd I would probably choose either a RedHat or Debian variant. Other major distros are probably just as good for your purposes. The smaller specialized distros might not release update cds very often which might mean you would be missing important security updates or nifty new programs and features. As I said, my first experience with linux was through RedHat which now has evolved into Mandrake but I haven't installed a pre-compiled linux in years. Best of Luck. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Running FG on win 98(not SE)
On Monday 14 February 2005 02:30 pm, Kristin wrote: Suggestions please, I don't mind downloading another flavor but with a 56k connection I don't want to have to download several to find one that works. Sorry you had problems making room for linux. Linux can be booted from either of your harddrives using the bootloaders lilo or grub or using a boot floppy. You can always uninstall the bootloaders if so desired, e.g. lilo -u. If you create a swap partition, I think that has to be a primary partition. Normally only primary partitions are bootable but lilo can boot linux from an extended partition if necessary. Windows must always be the first primary partition on the primary harddrive or it won't boot--which I re-learned the other day when I switched the WindowsME harddrive from a computer with a motherboard/cpu/memory malfunction into a computer with a Windows98 harddrive. I thought I could use lilo to toggle between ME and 98 but only the primary harddrive would boot. If windows and linux are on the same (primary) hd and you need to reinstall windows using the installation cd, windows will overwrite the MBR (wiping out lilo) so you would have to use a linux rescue cd to reinstall lilo. distrowatch.com is a good place to read about linux distributions. You should probably choose a mainstream newbie-friendly distro. Livecds are usually not designed for installation. Their primary focus is to pack as many useful programs in the available medium to showcase linux. I once installed KNOPPIX livecd on a slow 266MHz PII. However I was missing the sound driver as well as Debian's aptget which could have updated the drivers. So I had to go to the Debian website and download aptget and some other necessary files and manually install them in appropriate directories. If I had used Debian's installation cds I would not have had to deal with KNOPPIX missing parts. Unfortunately it would probably take a week or so to download a full cd over a 56K modem let only several cds. Your best bet is to purchase a basic cd for the installation of your choice from e.g. cheapbytes. Sorcerer has a small ~100meg installation cd which is menu-driven and will give install a very basic command-line linux from which you could then automatically download and install other necessary packages such as a desktop gui. Some very useful packages such as the X-window though might be 20M compressed or so. You might have to download another 100M of packages to get a very basic graphical interface. And you probably should have an intermediate level of comfort with linux. You can probably get your hardware to work properly. I once had a similar monitor problem with an older version of linux. I think I had to disable display power management using KDE's control- peripherals-display until I recompiled the kernel with APM enabled. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Running FG on win 98(not SE)
On Thursday 10 February 2005 07:46 am, Kristin wrote: I am running or trying to run v0.9.8 fg, I have also downloaded SLAX linux Live 4.2.0 (180MB= 12 hrs) and am trying to config my mouse(not sure what com port or how to load mouse driver) linux boots but i have no mouse and am only able to TAB, ALT etc to navagate, it does support my audio and video however. anyone know how to add WINE to the mix??? I suppose I will need to add the modules to modules directory and rewrite the boot loader to call them and the mouse? Help please First check that you have /dev/mouse, e.g. ~$ ls -l /dev/mouse lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2005-02-10 12:21 /dev/mouse - misc/psaux Your computer seems fairly new (not ancient) so it probably has PS/2 connectors for the keyboard and mouse. If you're using corded keyboard/mouse then everything should be straight forward. You may need to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config But first try running either xf86cfg (gui) or xf86config (text) to configure the mouse. You may have to navigate using the numeric keypad since your mouse isn't working. Specify your mouse from the list of available mice and click on apply. If all works, then save (maybe you should first make a backup of /etc/X11/XF86Config first). If you can't get things working you may have to manually edit XF86Config which is what I did to get my wheel mouse working. I added to the Section ServerLayout the following InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer I also added for my wheel mouse: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Device /dev/mouse Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Buttons 3 #Option BaudRate 1200 #This is probably not needed! #Option Resolution 100#And neither is this! EndSection I run sorcerer and FlightGear on a similar system: ASUS A7V600-X motherboard with onboard AC97 audio AMD 2800+ 512meg 120G SATA HD NVIDIA FX5200 Turtle Beach sound card. I have no experience with SLAX livecd. However I've tried RedHat, DSL, Knoppix livecd, LNX-BBC, gentoo and sorcerer. I used to have a Windows/Linux dual boot system but found that Linux was less aggravating. The livecds are an easy way to get to know linux, but unless you install to disk they consume a lot of memory. Once you are familiar with linux you may want to give the source-based distros (gentoo, sorcerer, ..) a try, since you have a sufficiently fast system and sufficient available HD. I use sorcerer (mostly by chance) but have also investigated gentoo. If you've ever tried to update a RedHat or Debian-based system using rpmupdate or aptget and were faced with downloading 100's of megs of dependencies you'll appreciate sorcerer's sdelta feature which just downloads small patches to the source code. Sorcerer features a menu-driven installation while gentoo's installation is more manual, but the documentation (which can be read in an alternate login window (Alt-F?) is excellent. Gentoo can also be installed ready-to-go from the cd without any compilation. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Joystick issues
On Sunday 23 January 2005 12:54 am, Rett D. Walters wrote: Hello: I have been unable to get FlightGear 0.9.8 to recognize my Joystick. I know the Joystick works on Linux because I can use it with X-Plane and the gentoo jscalibrate tool works and sees it. When I run js_demo that comes with FlightGear, the program correctly indentfies the Joystick, but does not register any axis movement when I move the stick. I have this issue on two systems, both with MS joysticks (Sidewinder Force Feedback (gameport), and SW Precision Pro 2 USB). Here is my system details: Gentoo Linux 2004.1 Kernel 2.6.7 (gentoo-dev-sources) P4 2.8 Ghz (Northwood Core) Sis648 Chipset, 1.0 GB RAM NVIDIA GeForce TI4200 128 MB SB Live 5.1 FlightGear 0.9.8 (gentoo ebuild, essentially compilied from source) Thanks, Rett Walters ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d ---BeginMessage--- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from chef.dmv.com (chef.dmv.com [216.240.97.34]) by pop3.intercom.net (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0IJPeLE033624 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:25:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from avscan-cl-c.dmv-online.net (avscan-cl-c.dmv-online.net [216. 240.97.9]) by chef.dmv.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0IJPa2h060405 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:25:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from mgw-cl-a.dmv.com (mgw-cl-a.dmv.com [216.240.97.4]) by avscan-cl-c.dmv-online.net (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0IJPagk003318 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:25:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from baron.me.umn.edu (baron.me.umn.edu [128.101.142.119]) by mgw-cl-a.dmv.com (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j0IJPVYu013291 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:25:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=baron.me.umn.edu) by baron.me.umn.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cqyw2-0002kg-00; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:22:38 -0600 Received: from postfix4-2.free.fr ([213.228.0.176]) by baron.me.umn.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CqyvO-0002kL-00 for flightgear-users@flightgear.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:21:58 -0600 Received: from free.fr (pontdeclaix-1-82-225-50-61.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.50.61]) by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584442ACEE6 for flightgear-users@flightgear.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:21:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:21:09 +0100 From: plum [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040208) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: Joystick problem References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Scanner: exiscan *1CqyvO-0002kL-00*xXMCbly3ZUE* X-BeenThere: flightgear-users@flightgear.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users@flightgear.org List-Id: FlightGear user discussions flightgear-users.flightgear.org List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://mail.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-users List-Post: mailto:flightgear-users@flightgear.org List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/F-Prot http://raeinternet.com/mpp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pop3.intercom.net id j0IJPeLE033624 X-UIDL: VFB!lB%!M?B!p9a! Jeremy Johnson a écrit : Did you compile Microsoft Sidewinder support into your kernel or as a module? If you compiled it as a module did you load it? e.g. modprobe sidewinder I have found my error : first : I have load some modules for the support of the joystick : --- modprobe ns558 modprobe joydev modprobe sidewinder but my sidewinder joystick is an old analog joystick, which do not use the sidewinder module. If I remove the sidewinder module with the command : modprobe -r sidewinder then, the jstest and js_demo work in the same way. second : I have to calibrate the joystick with the commande jscal -c /dev/js0 then, everything works like it should For information, The Linux kernel documentation contains a very interesting file called joystick.txt which you
Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: Joystick problem
[plum plum]$ ls -l /dev/ lr-xr-xr-x1 root root9 jan 13 19:42 js0 - input/js0 [plum plum]$ ls -l /dev/input/ crw-r--r--1 root root 13, 0 jan 1 1970 js0 Looks fine. Did you compile Microsoft Sidewinder support into your kernel or as a module? If you compiled it as a module did you load it? e.g. modprobe sidewinder To see what kernel modules you've compiled do a $modprobe -l During make menuconfig there is a question about Sidewinder support: Microsoft SideWinder digital joysticks and gamepads (JOYSTICK_SIDEWINDER) [N/m/y/?] Did you answer yes to compile support into the kernel, or m to compile the module? ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Joystick problem
On Sunday 16 January 2005 04:41 pm, plum wrote: Hello everybody, I try to use a Microsoft Sidewinder joystick with flightgear, but I have What operating system are you using? What kind of joystick is the Sidewinder? usb? joystick_port? ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Can't Configure Joystick
On Tuesday 21 December 2004 10:31 pm, Mr. Nigel Chuckletrousers wrote: I'm trying to get a Logitech Attack 3 to work with FlightGear, but things aren't going as FlightGear.org's documentation suggests. Whenever I run js_demo and jstest, the joystick is recognized, so at least that works correctly. I'm running this on my dad's SuSE 9.1 Linux box, and SuSE seems to treat FlightGear differently than other distros, as it has a custom-made SuSE package for FlightGear (not the standard-issue rpm or compiled-from-source), and many paths are different. For example, the instructions say to run cd /usr/local/FlightGear/Input/Joysticks, but in SuSE, one must run cd /usr/lib/FlightGear/data/Input/Joysticks. This may have some effect on why things aren't acting correctly: Whenever I run fgjs, everything works fine to configure the joystick to work. However, it's supposed to create the file fgfsrc.js, which cannot be located anywhere on the hard drive. Has anyone else had a problem with it not producing a configuration file? And could somebody please assist me? Thank you. I have no knowledge of SuSE. I installed from source. For me fgjs creates fgfsrc.js in the current directory. Since I ran it from my home directory that's where my file was created. If I tried to run it from a directory for which I didn't have write permissions -- who knows? I ended up manually creating an xml file for my joystick: I added an entry for my_joystick.xml to /usr/share/FlightGear/joysticks.xml and then created my_joystick.xml and added it to /usr/share/FlightGear/Input/Joysticks/my_joystick's_manufacturer/ I based my_joystick.xml on that for a simple CH-compatable stick with 4 axis and 4 buttons in /usr/share/FlightGear/Input/Joysticks/ which had a similar number of buttons, sliders, axis, triggers, etc. ___ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-users] Messages during startup
On Saturday 06 November 2004 01:30 pm, Dirk Vornheder wrote: Hi ! I get this messages during startup of fgfs: fgfs Object PanelInstruments not found Object ControlsGroup not found I get same error messages with linux-2.6.8.1 Currently have the following versions of software installed: #for f in SDL SimGear fgfs-base openal; do echo -n $f- augur version $f done SDL-1.2.7 SimGear-0.3.7 fgfs-base-0.9.6 openal-0.0.7-20040930 Trying to run fgfs I get: #fgfs Object PanelInstruments not found Object ControlsGroup not found Error in loading splash screen texture /usr/share/FlightGear/Textures/Splash4.rgb Segmentation fault ___ Flightgear-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-users 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
