Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-11 Thread Alfonso J . Lebron-Berges
I went to that URL and downloaded v 0.9.6 but after expanding it, there 
is NO FlightGear application (all other files are there, though).

Any takes?
Al



On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:25 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
I have just finished building a version of 0.9.6 and it can be found 
here:

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/FlightGear0.9.6.tgz
Be sure to read the README.txt file that is in the FlightGear0.9.6 
directory.  It is set up for using the UFO FDM, so controlling the 
aircraft should be quite simple.

Jonathan Polleyx

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-11 Thread Jonathan Polley
Al,
The flight gear application is called fgfs.  There is no script called 
run_fgfs in that directory (yet).

Jonathan Polley
On Dec 11, 2004, at 8:51 AM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote:
I went to that URL and downloaded v 0.9.6 but after expanding it, 
there is NO FlightGear application (all other files are there, 
though).

Any takes?
Al



On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:25 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
I have just finished building a version of 0.9.6 and it can be found 
here:

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/FlightGear0.9.6.tgz
Be sure to read the README.txt file that is in the FlightGear0.9.6 
directory.  It is set up for using the UFO FDM, so controlling the 
aircraft should be quite simple.

Jonathan Polleyx

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-11 Thread Alfonso J . Lebron-Berges
Thanks for your response.
This is what I get when double clicking on fgfs:
Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: 
/sw/share/FlightGear
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6
logout
[Process completed]

??
Al

On Dec 11, 2004, at 9:16 AM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Al,
The flight gear application is called fgfs.  There is no script called 
run_fgfs in that directory (yet).

Jonathan Polley
On Dec 11, 2004, at 8:51 AM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote:
I went to that URL and downloaded v 0.9.6 but after expanding it, 
there is NO FlightGear application (all other files are there, 
though).

Any takes?
Al



On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:25 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
I have just finished building a version of 0.9.6 and it can be 
found here:

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/FlightGear0.9.6.tgz
Be sure to read the README.txt file that is in the FlightGear0.9.6 
directory.  It is set up for using the UFO FDM, so controlling the 
aircraft should be quite simple.

Jonathan Polleyx

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-09 Thread James Smeall
On Dec 8, 2004, at 9:53 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 In order to make things easier, I am attaching the file (it is 
REALLY small), but you can download it from the link if you want.  If 
it works, I will include it in the future releases.  I really wish 
that I understood why some people have problems (it kinda has me 
banging my head against my desk).

 Be sure to make the file executable and change the $HOME with the 
proper path.

Jonathan Polley
run_fgfs
On Dec 8, 2004, at 11:47 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 8, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
OK, I finally had enough free time to try and address the 
documentation issues.  Please give a look at the updated README.txt 
file and let me know what kind of luck people do, or do not, have.

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/README.txt
Thank you for doing this.
Still not able to make FlightGear do anything.
Is the batch file run_fgfs suppose to be already in FlightGear? or 
do I need to create it?

If I need to create it, how do I create it?

Jonathan,
Don't feel bad if I can't figure this stuff out. You should be 
commended for tolerating my lack of knowledge.

I put the attached file (run_fgfs) into my FlightGear0.9.6 folder and 
edited it to replace $HOME with the path to FlightGear. I then opened 
Terminal and entered the commands per the readme. I saved the output 
from Terminal:

Last login: Thu Dec  9 18:15:55 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
James-Smealls-Computer:~ Jim$ cd FlightGear0.9.6
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ chmod +x run_fgfs
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ ./run_fgfs
./run_fgfs: line 1: Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or 
directory
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$

I tried this a couple of times and always got the same result. The file 
fgfs does exist in the FlightGear folder. I always assume I have done 
something wrong due to the fact that while I have used macs for years I 
know almost nothing about Unix.

Would deleting everything and starting over help?
~~
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-09 Thread Francis X. Maier
Jonathan and Jim,
Thanks for this discussion.  I'm in the same boat and followed this 
thread avidly.  I'm going to apply this tomorrow.  Grateful for the 
question and the patient response.

Fran
On Dec 9, 2004, at 8:17 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 Since I am use to working in UNIX, it takes me a while as well as 
well.  From your log, I am guessing that you are missing a leading 
slash from the first line in the file.  My guess is that it looks like 
this:

Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs ...
and it should be this:
/Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs ...
Let me know if it works.
Jonathan Polley
On Dec 9, 2004, at 8:38 PM, James Smeall wrote:
Jonathan,
Don't feel bad if I can't figure this stuff out. You should be 
commended for tolerating my lack of knowledge.

I put the attached file (run_fgfs) into my FlightGear0.9.6 folder and 
edited it to replace $HOME with the path to FlightGear. I then opened 
Terminal and entered the commands per the readme. I saved the output 
from Terminal:

Last login: Thu Dec  9 18:15:55 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
James-Smealls-Computer:~ Jim$ cd FlightGear0.9.6
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ chmod +x run_fgfs
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ ./run_fgfs
./run_fgfs: line 1: Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or 
directory
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$

I tried this a couple of times and always got the same result. The 
file fgfs does exist in the FlightGear folder. I always assume I 
have done something wrong due to the fact that while I have used macs 
for years I know almost nothing about Unix.

Would deleting everything and starting over help?
~~
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-09 Thread James Smeall
On Dec 9, 2004, at 7:17 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 Since I am use to working in UNIX, it takes me a while as well as 
well.  From your log, I am guessing that you are missing a leading 
slash from the first line in the file.  My guess is that it looks like 
this:

Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs ...
and it should be this:
/Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs ...
Let me know if it works.
Jonathan Polley
On Dec 9, 2004, at 8:38 PM, James Smeall wrote:
Jonathan,
Don't feel bad if I can't figure this stuff out. You should be 
commended for tolerating my lack of knowledge.

I put the attached file (run_fgfs) into my FlightGear0.9.6 folder and 
edited it to replace $HOME with the path to FlightGear. I then opened 
Terminal and entered the commands per the readme. I saved the output 
from Terminal:

Last login: Thu Dec  9 18:15:55 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
James-Smealls-Computer:~ Jim$ cd FlightGear0.9.6
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ chmod +x run_fgfs
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$ ./run_fgfs
./run_fgfs: line 1: Users/Jim/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs: No such file or 
directory
James-Smealls-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6 Jim$

I tried this a couple of times and always got the same result. The 
file fgfs does exist in the FlightGear folder. I always assume I 
have done something wrong due to the fact that while I have used macs 
for years I know almost nothing about Unix.

Would deleting everything and starting over help?
~~
It works!   This is great.  Thank you
~~
-Jim
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-09 Thread Jonathan Polley
Jim,
 That's good to haer.  Please give me any comments on the README 
and/or run_fgfs files so that I can try to minimize installation 
problems.

Thanks,
Jonathan Polley
On Dec 9, 2004, at 10:27 PM, James Smeall wrote:
It works!   This is great.  Thank you
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-08 Thread Jonathan Polley
OK, I finally had enough free time to try and address the documentation 
issues.  Please give a look at the updated README.txt file and let me 
know what kind of luck people do, or do not, have.

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/README.txt
The example script referenced in the document can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/run_fgfs
Thanks,
Jonathan Polley
On Dec 2, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote:
Why don't you send the command, exactly as you are writing it?
My FlightGear is in the folder /FlightGear-0.9.4, and it worked upon 
double-clicking the program.

(My humble opinion is that the explanations contained in the last five 
or six posts should be made available in the Readme file, at least for 
us poor command-line ignorants).

Al
On Dec 1, 2004, at 11:41 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 10:14 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 That information you want is in the README.txt file that is a 
part of the FlightGear0.9.6 folder:
Obviously the readme doesn't have all the information I need to 
make FlightGear work.
I will make whatever changes are needed to provide clear 
instructions.

In order to use FlightGear under MacOS X 10.3, you must create a 
FlightGear resource file in your home directory.  A sample 
resource (FlightGear_Resource) file is provided.  Replace the 
string $HOME with your home directory.
Do I need to create a resource file or do I use the sample resource 
file? Is that what the instructions below do?

How do I Replace the string $HOME with your home directory. Is 
that the below instructions?
That line means what it says.  In the example FlightGear_Resource 
file, the first line says:

--fg-root=$HOME/FlightGear0.9.6/data
If you have put the FlightGear0.9.6 folder in your home directory, 
then the string $HOME becomes whatever the path to your home 
directory might be.  In my case, that line would change to become

--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/FlightGear0.9.6/data
OK, I figured this out and made the changes to the path. How specific 
does the path have to be? Do I need to identify exactly which folder 
FlightGear is in? After changing the string I still get the same 
error message when I double click on fgfs. I ran the 'ln -s' command 
again and it reports that the file exists.

I must be doing something wrong still.
This line tells FlightGear where it can find the data directory.
 From your home directory, type
ln -s FlightGear0.9.6/FlightGear_Resource .fgfsrc

The 'ln -s' command makes a symbolic link, called .fgfsrc, that 
points to the flightGear_Resource file.  This is needed because 
FlightGear expects to find a file, called .fgfsrc, in your home 
directory.  Making the symbolic link allows you to conveniently edit 
the resource file (using something like TextEdit).

Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 09:37PM, James Smeall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Dec 1, 2004, at 6:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Do you have the .fgfsrc file set up correctly?  It has to be in 
your
home directory (in my case, it us /Users/jwpolley).  The reason 
that I
have you set up a symbolic link is because MacOS will hide any 
file
that begins with a dot (.) in the Finder.  Also, make sure that 
you
have modified the FlightGear_Resource file to point to the 'data'
directory in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder.
I do not know if .fgfsrc is set up correctly because I don't know 
how
to check if it is set up correctly. How do I point
FlightGear_Resource to the 'data' directory. I rarely use 
terminal so
the example below is beyond my understanding.

I do thank you for your efforts to make FlightGear work for me.
In my case (my paths are different because I am pointing to my
development strucutre):
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% ls -al
total 211104
drwxr-xr-x  38 jwpolley  staff   1292 30 Nov 22:10 .
drwxrwxr-t   7 root  admin238 12 Sep  2003 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  3 18 Oct  2003
.CFUserTextEncoding
-rwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff  15364 30 Nov 22:07 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  0 17 Oct  2003 .MCXLC
drwx--   2 jwpolley  staff 68 30 Nov 23:49 .Trash
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff  0  1 Nov 21:45 
.Xauthority
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff 24 18 Oct  2003 .cshrc
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff317  2 May  2004 .cvspass
lrwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff 19 15 Jun 00:02 .fgfsrc -
FlightGear_Resource

[lichebane:~] jwpolley% more FlightGear_Resource
--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/fgdev/data
Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 07:56PM, James Smeall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Downloaded 0.9.6 and installed on my home directory. Followed
instructions in readme. FlightGear would not run.
Error message in terminal;
Base package check failed ... Found version {none} at:
/sw/share/FlightGear
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6
What did I do wrong?


Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-08 Thread James Smeall
On Dec 8, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
OK, I finally had enough free time to try and address the 
documentation issues.  Please give a look at the updated README.txt 
file and let me know what kind of luck people do, or do not, have.

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/README.txt
Thank you for doing this.
Still not able to make FlightGear do anything.
Is the batch file run_fgfs suppose to be already in FlightGear? or do 
I need to create it?

If I need to create it, how do I create it?
~~
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20 iMac G5, 10.3.6
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-08 Thread Jonathan Polley
Jim,
 In order to make things easier, I am attaching the file (it is 
REALLY small), but you can download it from the link if you want.  If 
it works, I will include it in the future releases.  I really wish that 
I understood why some people have problems (it kinda has me banging my 
head against my desk).

 Be sure to make the file executable and change the $HOME with the 
proper path.

Jonathan Polley


run_fgfs
Description: Binary data

On Dec 8, 2004, at 11:47 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 8, 2004, at 7:20 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
OK, I finally had enough free time to try and address the 
documentation issues.  Please give a look at the updated README.txt 
file and let me know what kind of luck people do, or do not, have.

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/README.txt
Thank you for doing this.
Still not able to make FlightGear do anything.
Is the batch file run_fgfs suppose to be already in FlightGear? or 
do I need to create it?

If I need to create it, how do I create it?
~~
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-02 Thread Alfonso J . Lebron-Berges
Why don't you send the command, exactly as you are writing it?
My FlightGear is in the folder /FlightGear-0.9.4, and it worked upon 
double-clicking the program.

(My humble opinion is that the explanations contained in the last five 
or six posts should be made available in the Readme file, at least for 
us poor command-line ignorants).

Al
On Dec 1, 2004, at 11:41 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 10:14 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 That information you want is in the README.txt file that is a 
part of the FlightGear0.9.6 folder:
Obviously the readme doesn't have all the information I need to make 
FlightGear work.
I will make whatever changes are needed to provide clear instructions.
In order to use FlightGear under MacOS X 10.3, you must create a 
FlightGear resource file in your home directory.  A sample resource 
(FlightGear_Resource) file is provided.  Replace the string $HOME 
with your home directory.
Do I need to create a resource file or do I use the sample resource 
file? Is that what the instructions below do?

How do I Replace the string $HOME with your home directory. Is 
that the below instructions?
That line means what it says.  In the example FlightGear_Resource 
file, the first line says:

--fg-root=$HOME/FlightGear0.9.6/data
If you have put the FlightGear0.9.6 folder in your home directory, 
then the string $HOME becomes whatever the path to your home 
directory might be.  In my case, that line would change to become

--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/FlightGear0.9.6/data
OK, I figured this out and made the changes to the path. How specific 
does the path have to be? Do I need to identify exactly which folder 
FlightGear is in? After changing the string I still get the same error 
message when I double click on fgfs. I ran the 'ln -s' command again 
and it reports that the file exists.

I must be doing something wrong still.
This line tells FlightGear where it can find the data directory.
 From your home directory, type
ln -s FlightGear0.9.6/FlightGear_Resource .fgfsrc

The 'ln -s' command makes a symbolic link, called .fgfsrc, that 
points to the flightGear_Resource file.  This is needed because 
FlightGear expects to find a file, called .fgfsrc, in your home 
directory.  Making the symbolic link allows you to conveniently edit 
the resource file (using something like TextEdit).

Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 09:37PM, James Smeall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Dec 1, 2004, at 6:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Do you have the .fgfsrc file set up correctly?  It has to be in 
your
home directory (in my case, it us /Users/jwpolley).  The reason 
that I
have you set up a symbolic link is because MacOS will hide any 
file
that begins with a dot (.) in the Finder.  Also, make sure that 
you
have modified the FlightGear_Resource file to point to the 'data'
directory in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder.
I do not know if .fgfsrc is set up correctly because I don't know 
how
to check if it is set up correctly. How do I point
FlightGear_Resource to the 'data' directory. I rarely use terminal 
so
the example below is beyond my understanding.

I do thank you for your efforts to make FlightGear work for me.
In my case (my paths are different because I am pointing to my
development strucutre):
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% ls -al
total 211104
drwxr-xr-x  38 jwpolley  staff   1292 30 Nov 22:10 .
drwxrwxr-t   7 root  admin238 12 Sep  2003 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  3 18 Oct  2003
.CFUserTextEncoding
-rwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff  15364 30 Nov 22:07 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  0 17 Oct  2003 .MCXLC
drwx--   2 jwpolley  staff 68 30 Nov 23:49 .Trash
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff  0  1 Nov 21:45 .Xauthority
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff 24 18 Oct  2003 .cshrc
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff317  2 May  2004 .cvspass
lrwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff 19 15 Jun 00:02 .fgfsrc -
FlightGear_Resource
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% more FlightGear_Resource
--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/fgdev/data
Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 07:56PM, James Smeall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Downloaded 0.9.6 and installed on my home directory. Followed
instructions in readme. FlightGear would not run.
Error message in terminal;
Base package check failed ... Found version {none} at:
/sw/share/FlightGear
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6
What did I do wrong?

-Jim
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-01 Thread James Smeall
On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:25 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
I have just finished building a version of 0.9.6 and it can be found 
here:

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/FlightGear0.9.6.tgz
Be sure to read the README.txt file that is in the FlightGear0.9.6 
directory.  It is set up for using the UFO FDM, so controlling the 
aircraft should be quite simple.

Jonathan Polley
On Nov 28, 2004, at 8:55 AM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote:
Thanks for your response.
Are these commands to be written to the terminal? or somwhere else 
that I don't know?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Alfonso Lebron-Berges

On Nov 27, 2004, at 9:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
To start things off, use the UFO flight dynamics model (command line 
argument --fdm=ufo).  That will make sure that you have everything 
going.  In the UFO FDM, the cursor keys are control pitch and roll.  
Page Up/Page Down is the throttle.

Jonathan Polley
p.s., I can upload a current version of 0.9.6, if you are interested.
On Saturday, November 27, 2004, at 08:24PM, James Smeall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I have read the readme and installed OpenAL. The terminal commands 
are
confusing and I can't get FlightGear to work. I have downloaded
FlightGear 0.9.5 from Jonathan Polley but still don't understand 
what I
need to do to make this work.


Jim
G5 iMac, 10.3.6
Downloaded 0.9.6 and installed on my home directory. Followed 
instructions in readme. FlightGear would not run.

Error message in terminal;
Base package check failed ... Found version {none} at: 
/sw/share/FlightGear
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6

What did I do wrong?
-Jim
G5 iMac
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-01 Thread nightfly
First of all, a big thank you for providing a precompiled version for 
those of us who don't feel confident enough to try the compiling process 
for themselves (like me...). It's very much appreciated! :-)
I've got a problem, though -- when I double-click the fgfs app I get this:

[My-Computer:~/FlightGear0.9.6] Me% /Users/Me/FlightGear0.9.6/fgfs; exit
Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio...
Base package check failed ... Found version [none] at: 
Users/Me/FlightGear0.9.6/data
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6
logout
[Process completed]

I've installed OpenAL, did everything in the read me file and I'm 
reasonably sure the base package is right where it should be. I've used 
FG 0.9.4 previously and it ran without problems.

Any idea what's going wrong?
Best regards,
Maja
**
G4/500MHz/256RAM/ATIRage128pro/MacOSX10.3.6
**

Jonathan Polley wrote:
I have just finished building a version of 0.9.6 and it can be found 
here:

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/FlightGear0.9.6.tgz
Be sure to read the README.txt file that is in the FlightGear0.9.6 
directory.  It is set up for using the UFO FDM, so controlling the 
aircraft should be quite simple.

Jonathan Polley

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-01 Thread Jonathan Polley
Do you have the .fgfsrc file set up correctly?  It has to be in your home 
directory (in my case, it us /Users/jwpolley).  The reason that I have you set 
up a symbolic link is because MacOS will hide any file that begins with a dot 
(.) in the Finder.  Also, make sure that you have modified the 
FlightGear_Resource file to point to the 'data' directory in your 
FlightGear0.9.6 folder.

In my case (my paths are different because I am pointing to my development 
strucutre):

[lichebane:~] jwpolley% ls -al
total 211104
drwxr-xr-x  38 jwpolley  staff   1292 30 Nov 22:10 .
drwxrwxr-t   7 root  admin238 12 Sep  2003 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  3 18 Oct  2003 .CFUserTextEncoding
-rwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff  15364 30 Nov 22:07 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  0 17 Oct  2003 .MCXLC
drwx--   2 jwpolley  staff 68 30 Nov 23:49 .Trash
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff  0  1 Nov 21:45 .Xauthority
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff 24 18 Oct  2003 .cshrc
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff317  2 May  2004 .cvspass
lrwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff 19 15 Jun 00:02 .fgfsrc - 
FlightGear_Resource

[lichebane:~] jwpolley% more FlightGear_Resource 
--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/fgdev/data

Jonathan Polley

On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 07:56PM, James Smeall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


Downloaded 0.9.6 and installed on my home directory. Followed 
instructions in readme. FlightGear would not run.

Error message in terminal;
Base package check failed ... Found version {none} at: 
/sw/share/FlightGear
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6

What did I do wrong?


-Jim
G5 iMac


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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-01 Thread James Smeall
On Dec 1, 2004, at 6:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Do you have the .fgfsrc file set up correctly?  It has to be in your 
home directory (in my case, it us /Users/jwpolley).  The reason that I 
have you set up a symbolic link is because MacOS will hide any file 
that begins with a dot (.) in the Finder.  Also, make sure that you 
have modified the FlightGear_Resource file to point to the 'data' 
directory in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder.
I do not know if .fgfsrc is set up correctly because I don't know how 
to check if it is set up correctly. How do I point 
FlightGear_Resource to the 'data' directory. I rarely use terminal so 
the example below is beyond my understanding.

I do thank you for your efforts to make FlightGear work for me.
In my case (my paths are different because I am pointing to my 
development strucutre):

[lichebane:~] jwpolley% ls -al
total 211104
drwxr-xr-x  38 jwpolley  staff   1292 30 Nov 22:10 .
drwxrwxr-t   7 root  admin238 12 Sep  2003 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  3 18 Oct  2003 
.CFUserTextEncoding
-rwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff  15364 30 Nov 22:07 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  0 17 Oct  2003 .MCXLC
drwx--   2 jwpolley  staff 68 30 Nov 23:49 .Trash
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff  0  1 Nov 21:45 .Xauthority
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff 24 18 Oct  2003 .cshrc
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff317  2 May  2004 .cvspass
lrwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff 19 15 Jun 00:02 .fgfsrc - 
FlightGear_Resource

[lichebane:~] jwpolley% more FlightGear_Resource
--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/fgdev/data
Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 07:56PM, James Smeall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Downloaded 0.9.6 and installed on my home directory. Followed
instructions in readme. FlightGear would not run.
Error message in terminal;
Base package check failed ... Found version {none} at:
/sw/share/FlightGear
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6
What did I do wrong?
-Jim
G5 iMac

-Jim
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20 iMac G5, 10.3.6
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-01 Thread Jonathan Polley
Jim,

 That information you want is in the README.txt file that is a part of the 
FlightGear0.9.6 folder:

In order to use FlightGear under MacOS X 10.3, you must create a FlightGear 
resource file in your home directory.  A sample resource (FlightGear_Resource) 
file is provided.  Replace the string $HOME with your home directory.  From 
your home directory, type

ln -s FlightGear0.9.6/FlightGear_Resource .fgfsrc


Jonathan Polley

On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 09:37PM, James Smeall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


On Dec 1, 2004, at 6:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:

 Do you have the .fgfsrc file set up correctly?  It has to be in your 
 home directory (in my case, it us /Users/jwpolley).  The reason that I 
 have you set up a symbolic link is because MacOS will hide any file 
 that begins with a dot (.) in the Finder.  Also, make sure that you 
 have modified the FlightGear_Resource file to point to the 'data' 
 directory in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder.

I do not know if .fgfsrc is set up correctly because I don't know how 
to check if it is set up correctly. How do I point 
FlightGear_Resource to the 'data' directory. I rarely use terminal so 
the example below is beyond my understanding.

I do thank you for your efforts to make FlightGear work for me.


 In my case (my paths are different because I am pointing to my 
 development strucutre):

 [lichebane:~] jwpolley% ls -al
 total 211104
 drwxr-xr-x  38 jwpolley  staff   1292 30 Nov 22:10 .
 drwxrwxr-t   7 root  admin238 12 Sep  2003 ..
 -rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  3 18 Oct  2003 
 .CFUserTextEncoding
 -rwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff  15364 30 Nov 22:07 .DS_Store
 -rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  0 17 Oct  2003 .MCXLC
 drwx--   2 jwpolley  staff 68 30 Nov 23:49 .Trash
 -rw---   1 jwpolley  staff  0  1 Nov 21:45 .Xauthority
 -rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff 24 18 Oct  2003 .cshrc
 -rw---   1 jwpolley  staff317  2 May  2004 .cvspass
 lrwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff 19 15 Jun 00:02 .fgfsrc - 
 FlightGear_Resource

 [lichebane:~] jwpolley% more FlightGear_Resource
 --fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/fgdev/data

 Jonathan Polley

 On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 07:56PM, James Smeall 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Downloaded 0.9.6 and installed on my home directory. Followed
 instructions in readme. FlightGear would not run.

 Error message in terminal;
 Base package check failed ... Found version {none} at:
 /sw/share/FlightGear
 Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6

 What did I do wrong?


 -Jim
 G5 iMac



-Jim
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-01 Thread James Smeall
On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 That information you want is in the README.txt file that is a 
part of the FlightGear0.9.6 folder:
Obviously the readme doesn't have all the information I need to make 
FlightGear work.

In order to use FlightGear under MacOS X 10.3, you must create a 
FlightGear resource file in your home directory.  A sample resource 
(FlightGear_Resource) file is provided.  Replace the string $HOME with 
your home directory.
Do I need to create a resource file or do I use the sample resource 
file? Is that what the instructions below do?

How do I Replace the string $HOME with your home directory. Is that 
the below instructions?

 From your home directory, type
ln -s FlightGear0.9.6/FlightGear_Resource .fgfsrc

Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 09:37PM, James Smeall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Dec 1, 2004, at 6:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Do you have the .fgfsrc file set up correctly?  It has to be in your
home directory (in my case, it us /Users/jwpolley).  The reason that 
I
have you set up a symbolic link is because MacOS will hide any file
that begins with a dot (.) in the Finder.  Also, make sure that you
have modified the FlightGear_Resource file to point to the 'data'
directory in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder.
I do not know if .fgfsrc is set up correctly because I don't know how
to check if it is set up correctly. How do I point
FlightGear_Resource to the 'data' directory. I rarely use terminal so
the example below is beyond my understanding.
I do thank you for your efforts to make FlightGear work for me.
In my case (my paths are different because I am pointing to my
development strucutre):
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% ls -al
total 211104
drwxr-xr-x  38 jwpolley  staff   1292 30 Nov 22:10 .
drwxrwxr-t   7 root  admin238 12 Sep  2003 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  3 18 Oct  2003
.CFUserTextEncoding
-rwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff  15364 30 Nov 22:07 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  0 17 Oct  2003 .MCXLC
drwx--   2 jwpolley  staff 68 30 Nov 23:49 .Trash
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff  0  1 Nov 21:45 .Xauthority
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff 24 18 Oct  2003 .cshrc
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff317  2 May  2004 .cvspass
lrwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff 19 15 Jun 00:02 .fgfsrc -
FlightGear_Resource
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% more FlightGear_Resource
--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/fgdev/data
Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 07:56PM, James Smeall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Downloaded 0.9.6 and installed on my home directory. Followed
instructions in readme. FlightGear would not run.
Error message in terminal;
Base package check failed ... Found version {none} at:
/sw/share/FlightGear
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6
What did I do wrong?

-Jim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
20 iMac G5, 10.3.6
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-01 Thread Jonathan Polley
On Dec 1, 2004, at 10:14 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 That information you want is in the README.txt file that is a 
part of the FlightGear0.9.6 folder:
Obviously the readme doesn't have all the information I need to make 
FlightGear work.
I will make whatever changes are needed to provide clear instructions.
In order to use FlightGear under MacOS X 10.3, you must create a 
FlightGear resource file in your home directory.  A sample resource 
(FlightGear_Resource) file is provided.  Replace the string $HOME 
with your home directory.
Do I need to create a resource file or do I use the sample resource 
file? Is that what the instructions below do?

How do I Replace the string $HOME with your home directory. Is that 
the below instructions?
That line means what it says.  In the example FlightGear_Resource file, 
the first line says:

--fg-root=$HOME/FlightGear0.9.6/data
If you have put the FlightGear0.9.6 folder in your home directory, then 
the string $HOME becomes whatever the path to your home directory might 
be.  In my case, that line would change to become

--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/FlightGear0.9.6/data
This line tells FlightGear where it can find the data directory.
 From your home directory, type
ln -s FlightGear0.9.6/FlightGear_Resource .fgfsrc

The 'ln -s' command makes a symbolic link, called .fgfsrc, that points 
to the flightGear_Resource file.  This is needed because FlightGear 
expects to find a file, called .fgfsrc, in your home directory.  Making 
the symbolic link allows you to conveniently edit the resource file 
(using something like TextEdit).

Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 09:37PM, James Smeall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Dec 1, 2004, at 6:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Do you have the .fgfsrc file set up correctly?  It has to be in your
home directory (in my case, it us /Users/jwpolley).  The reason 
that I
have you set up a symbolic link is because MacOS will hide any file
that begins with a dot (.) in the Finder.  Also, make sure that you
have modified the FlightGear_Resource file to point to the 'data'
directory in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder.
I do not know if .fgfsrc is set up correctly because I don't know how
to check if it is set up correctly. How do I point
FlightGear_Resource to the 'data' directory. I rarely use terminal so
the example below is beyond my understanding.
I do thank you for your efforts to make FlightGear work for me.
In my case (my paths are different because I am pointing to my
development strucutre):
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% ls -al
total 211104
drwxr-xr-x  38 jwpolley  staff   1292 30 Nov 22:10 .
drwxrwxr-t   7 root  admin238 12 Sep  2003 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  3 18 Oct  2003
.CFUserTextEncoding
-rwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff  15364 30 Nov 22:07 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  0 17 Oct  2003 .MCXLC
drwx--   2 jwpolley  staff 68 30 Nov 23:49 .Trash
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff  0  1 Nov 21:45 .Xauthority
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff 24 18 Oct  2003 .cshrc
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff317  2 May  2004 .cvspass
lrwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff 19 15 Jun 00:02 .fgfsrc -
FlightGear_Resource
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% more FlightGear_Resource
--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/fgdev/data
Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 07:56PM, James Smeall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Downloaded 0.9.6 and installed on my home directory. Followed
instructions in readme. FlightGear would not run.
Error message in terminal;
Base package check failed ... Found version {none} at:
/sw/share/FlightGear
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6
What did I do wrong?

-Jim
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20 iMac G5, 10.3.6
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-12-01 Thread James Smeall
On Dec 1, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 10:14 PM, James Smeall wrote:
On Dec 1, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Jim,
 That information you want is in the README.txt file that is a 
part of the FlightGear0.9.6 folder:
Obviously the readme doesn't have all the information I need to make 
FlightGear work.
I will make whatever changes are needed to provide clear instructions.
In order to use FlightGear under MacOS X 10.3, you must create a 
FlightGear resource file in your home directory.  A sample resource 
(FlightGear_Resource) file is provided.  Replace the string $HOME 
with your home directory.
Do I need to create a resource file or do I use the sample resource 
file? Is that what the instructions below do?

How do I Replace the string $HOME with your home directory. Is that 
the below instructions?
That line means what it says.  In the example FlightGear_Resource 
file, the first line says:

--fg-root=$HOME/FlightGear0.9.6/data
If you have put the FlightGear0.9.6 folder in your home directory, 
then the string $HOME becomes whatever the path to your home directory 
might be.  In my case, that line would change to become

--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/FlightGear0.9.6/data
OK, I figured this out and made the changes to the path. How specific 
does the path have to be? Do I need to identify exactly which folder 
FlightGear is in? After changing the string I still get the same error 
message when I double click on fgfs. I ran the 'ln -s' command again 
and it reports that the file exists.

I must be doing something wrong still.
This line tells FlightGear where it can find the data directory.
 From your home directory, type
ln -s FlightGear0.9.6/FlightGear_Resource .fgfsrc

The 'ln -s' command makes a symbolic link, called .fgfsrc, that points 
to the flightGear_Resource file.  This is needed because FlightGear 
expects to find a file, called .fgfsrc, in your home directory.  
Making the symbolic link allows you to conveniently edit the resource 
file (using something like TextEdit).

Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 09:37PM, James Smeall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Dec 1, 2004, at 6:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
Do you have the .fgfsrc file set up correctly?  It has to be in 
your
home directory (in my case, it us /Users/jwpolley).  The reason 
that I
have you set up a symbolic link is because MacOS will hide any file
that begins with a dot (.) in the Finder.  Also, make sure that you
have modified the FlightGear_Resource file to point to the 'data'
directory in your FlightGear0.9.6 folder.
I do not know if .fgfsrc is set up correctly because I don't know 
how
to check if it is set up correctly. How do I point
FlightGear_Resource to the 'data' directory. I rarely use terminal 
so
the example below is beyond my understanding.

I do thank you for your efforts to make FlightGear work for me.
In my case (my paths are different because I am pointing to my
development strucutre):
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% ls -al
total 211104
drwxr-xr-x  38 jwpolley  staff   1292 30 Nov 22:10 .
drwxrwxr-t   7 root  admin238 12 Sep  2003 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  3 18 Oct  2003
.CFUserTextEncoding
-rwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff  15364 30 Nov 22:07 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff  0 17 Oct  2003 .MCXLC
drwx--   2 jwpolley  staff 68 30 Nov 23:49 .Trash
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff  0  1 Nov 21:45 .Xauthority
-rw-r--r--   1 jwpolley  staff 24 18 Oct  2003 .cshrc
-rw---   1 jwpolley  staff317  2 May  2004 .cvspass
lrwxr-xr-x   1 jwpolley  staff 19 15 Jun 00:02 .fgfsrc -
FlightGear_Resource
[lichebane:~] jwpolley% more FlightGear_Resource
--fg-root=/Users/jwpolley/fgdev/data
Jonathan Polley
On Wednesday, December 01, 2004, at 07:56PM, James Smeall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Downloaded 0.9.6 and installed on my home directory. Followed
instructions in readme. FlightGear would not run.
Error message in terminal;
Base package check failed ... Found version {none} at:
/sw/share/FlightGear
Please upgrade to version: 0.9.6
What did I do wrong?

-Jim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vaughn, WA, USA
20 iMac G5, 10.3.6
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-11-30 Thread Jonathan Polley
I have just finished building a version of 0.9.6 and it can be found 
here:

http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/FlightGear/FlightGear0.9.6.tgz
Be sure to read the README.txt file that is in the FlightGear0.9.6 
directory.  It is set up for using the UFO FDM, so controlling the 
aircraft should be quite simple.

Jonathan Polley
On Nov 28, 2004, at 8:55 AM, Alfonso J. Lebron-Berges wrote:
Thanks for your response.
Are these commands to be written to the terminal? or somwhere else 
that I don't know?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Alfonso Lebron-Berges

On Nov 27, 2004, at 9:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
To start things off, use the UFO flight dynamics model (command line 
argument --fdm=ufo).  That will make sure that you have everything 
going.  In the UFO FDM, the cursor keys are control pitch and roll.  
Page Up/Page Down is the throttle.

Jonathan Polley
p.s., I can upload a current version of 0.9.6, if you are interested.
On Saturday, November 27, 2004, at 08:24PM, James Smeall 
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Hi,
I have read the readme and installed OpenAL. The terminal commands 
are
confusing and I can't get FlightGear to work. I have downloaded
FlightGear 0.9.5 from Jonathan Polley but still don't understand 
what I
need to do to make this work.


Jim
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-11-28 Thread Alfonso J . Lebron-Berges
Thanks for your response.
Are these commands to be written to the terminal? or somwhere else that 
I don't know?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Alfonso Lebron-Berges

On Nov 27, 2004, at 9:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
To start things off, use the UFO flight dynamics model (command line 
argument --fdm=ufo).  That will make sure that you have everything 
going.  In the UFO FDM, the cursor keys are control pitch and roll.  
Page Up/Page Down is the throttle.

Jonathan Polley
p.s., I can upload a current version of 0.9.6, if you are interested.
On Saturday, November 27, 2004, at 08:24PM, James Smeall 
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Hi,
I have read the readme and installed OpenAL. The terminal commands are
confusing and I can't get FlightGear to work. I have downloaded
FlightGear 0.9.5 from Jonathan Polley but still don't understand what 
I
need to do to make this work.


Jim
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[Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-11-27 Thread James Smeall
Hi,
I have read the readme and installed OpenAL. The terminal commands are 
confusing and I can't get FlightGear to work. I have downloaded  
FlightGear 0.9.5 from Jonathan Polley but still don't understand what I 
need to do to make this work.


Jim
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-11-27 Thread Jonathan Polley
To start things off, use the UFO flight dynamics model (command line argument 
--fdm=ufo).  That will make sure that you have everything going.  In the UFO 
FDM, the cursor keys are control pitch and roll.  Page Up/Page Down is the 
throttle.

Jonathan Polley

p.s., I can upload a current version of 0.9.6, if you are interested.

On Saturday, November 27, 2004, at 08:24PM, James Smeall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Hi,

I have read the readme and installed OpenAL. The terminal commands are 
confusing and I can't get FlightGear to work. I have downloaded  
FlightGear 0.9.5 from Jonathan Polley but still don't understand what I 
need to do to make this work.



Jim
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FlightGear on mac 10.3.6?

2004-11-27 Thread James Smeall
0.9.6 would be nice :)
How do use the UFO flight dynamics model?  Where are the command line 
arguments?

When I try to run FlightGear as per the readme's I get confused and 
FlightGear doesn't work. Why does it have to be so complicated?

Sounds like I need to be a programmer to use FlightGear.
On Nov 27, 2004, at 7:35 PM, Jonathan Polley wrote:
To start things off, use the UFO flight dynamics model (command line 
argument --fdm=ufo).  That will make sure that you have everything 
going.  In the UFO FDM, the cursor keys are control pitch and roll.  
Page Up/Page Down is the throttle.

Jonathan Polley
p.s., I can upload a current version of 0.9.6, if you are interested.
On Saturday, November 27, 2004, at 08:24PM, James Smeall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I have read the readme and installed OpenAL. The terminal commands are
confusing and I can't get FlightGear to work. I have downloaded
FlightGear 0.9.5 from Jonathan Polley but still don't understand what 
I
need to do to make this work.



Jim
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