FLUXLIST: Why George Maciunas opposed the Avant-Garde Festivals

2000-03-27 Thread Ken Friedman

Reed Altemus writes,

"I'm thinking perhaps Maciunas had little reason to see Charlotte's
Festivals as competitive with his Fluxus program, in which case I conclude
that he was just generally threatened by women who were doing things cf.
Carolee Schneeman (later). He certainly seemed to get along fine with Yoko
Ono at the time."

George's opposition to the festival was not sexist. It was an issue of
programmatic positions in his aesthetic-political system. 

George saw the Avant-Garde Festival as a large, eclectic stew of projects
-- in essence, this raised the problem of the "neo-Baroque" position to
which he opposed the "neo-haiku" Fluxus position.

George's problem with Carolee was based on the same argument. She was doing
happenings and messy, sexy, meaty multimedia performance that stood at the
other end of a spectrum from George's demand for a clean, clear, simplified
art.

This, incidentally, was also George's argument against happenings in
general, and this is part of the difficulty with Al Hansen's work.

George was a purist but never a sexist. At a time when there was little
room for women in the art world, George welcomed and worked with Alison
Knowles, Mieko Shiomi, Shigeko Kubota, Yoko Ono, Alice Hutchins, Carla Liss
and others.

It seemed to many others that there was room for a great deal of overlap,
fuzziness and ambiguity in the Fluxus position. The fact that George
rejected the Avant Garde festivals did not bother the many Fluxus artists
who took part in them.

But it should be stated that George was a person who made decisions --
including silly decisions -- on principle, not on the basis of personality,
gender, sexual preference, race, religion, etc. To the degree that George
was occasionally "cranky," he was an equal-opportunity crank.

Ken Friedman

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Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Why?

2000-03-27 Thread Heiko Recktenwald

 I tried to find "Mechanisation takes command" on the web. Very little by 
 Giedeon in

Sorry, he is spelled GIDEON, Siegfried Gideon, I found one link with altavista 
to a swiss site, he was architect...



FLUXLIST: government e-mail snooping (fwd)

2000-03-27 Thread St.Auby Tamas


Subject: government e-mail snooping

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000
Peaceful Protests to be considered SERIOUS CRIME

Activist Mailing List - http://get.to/activist

Peaceful protest is a "serious crime" in the British government's
Bill to intercept private email communication

Statement from GreenNet

In September last year, at a conference on British government plans
to give police and intelligence services the right to read private
email,
Patricia Hewitt, the minister for e-commerce, claimed these plans
were necessary "because crime has become global and digital and
we have to combat this". What she omitted to mention was that one
of the "crimes" the government was setting out to combat was the
kind of peaceful protest actions that took place in Seattle at the
WTO meeting.

This has now been made crystal clear in the proposed Regulation of
Investigatory Powers (RIP) Bill. Continuing with a definition first
brought in by the Thatcher government to allow police to tap the
phones of union members in the 1985 British miners' strike, the
Bill specifically designates "conduct by a large number of persons
in pursuit of a common purpose" to be "a serious crime" justifying
an interception of their private email correspondence. The police
requested that this measure be introduced in a report into the
demonstration that took place at the City of London as part of an
international day of protest actions on June 18th last year. There
were violent clashes between the police and this initially non-violent
demonstration.

The group that organised the June 18th demonstration is a GreenNet
user and much of the organisation for the international protest took
place using GreenNet Internet facilities. If the RIP Bill had been in
place last year there seems little doubt that the police would have
applied for an order to force GreenNet to give them access to the
private email of people involved in the June 18th events. The police
would almost certainly have wanted a similar order over protest
activities planned to coincide with the Seattle WTO meeting.

Under the RIP Bill, they will now be able to obtain such facilities to
spy on the activities of protest groups. Internet Service Providers
(ISPs) will have to build "interception capabilities" into their
systems. When served with an "interception warrant" they will be
forced to intercept private email and convey its contents to the police
or various intelligence services. Refusal to comply with a warrant
will carry a maximum jail sentence of two years. "Tipping-off"
someone that their email is being read is punishable by up to five
years jail.

This also applies to informing anyone not authorised to know about
the interception warrant. The warrant will initially be served on a
named individual within an ISP. They may inform only those other
people they need to help them implement the warrant and these, in
turn, face the same penalties for tipping-off. The only exception
allowed is to consult legal advisors.

A separate section of the Bill deals with encryption. This provides for

"properly authorised persons (such as members of the law enforce-
ment, security and intelligence agencies) to serve written notices on
individuals or bodies requiring the surrender of information (such
as a decryption key) to enable them to understand (make intelligible)
protected material which they lawfully hold, or are likely to."

Such an order can be served on anyone "there are reasonable
grounds for believing" has an encryption key. They could face two
years jail for not revealing the key and are also subject to the same
possible five year jail sentence as ISPs for informing someone that
attempts are being made by the authorities to read their email. This
section of the Bill has been widely condemned by civil liberties
lawyers as reversing the fundamental right of a person to be
presumed innocent until proven guilty and will almost certainly be
challenged using the European Convention on Human Rights.

The British Bill is part of long term plans that have been developed
since 1993 to give law enforcement bodies around the world the
ability to intercept and read modern digital communications. In that
year, the FBI initiated an International Law Enforcement Tele-
communications Seminar (ILETS) for that purpose. The ILETS
group has operated behind the back of elected parliamentary bodies
and within the European Union its plans have been implemented
through secret meetings of the Council for Justice and Home
Affairs (CJHA).

An essential part of these plans involve international collaboration
between law enforcement bodies. Large sections of the RIP Bill
deal with "International mutual assistance agreements" to intercept
communications. Particular reference is made to a "draft Convention
on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters" produced within the
  CJHA. This Convention lays out plans for communications taking
place between individuals in one country to be intercepted in 

FLUXLIST: Serge Klarsfeld est fou

2000-03-27 Thread Heiko Recktenwald

I liked the action of Beate, who , but M. Serges idea of a
demonstration against the Vienna Philharmonics in Paris...

He asked them to criticize Mr Haider etc and they refused.

Who are the brainpolice 

Everything behind the rhine is sibiria and a book with a swastica will become 
a bestseller. Etcpp...this is europe 2000

H.






Re: FLUXLIST: 12 Features

2000-03-27 Thread Don Boyd

Sol, you are correct. That is why I'm not sure of teir exact meanings
as intended by the authors. My own list of Fluxus characteristics is too long
and boring
for this occasion. -Don

Sol Nte wrote: Now I think that Don's twelve features are the 12 aspects of
Fluxus as

 defined by Dick Higgins and refined by Ken Friedman.

 Am I right Don or have you taken some of those 12 to combine with others?

 I'm dead curious now.

 cheers,

 Sol.






Re: FLUXLIST: Why George Maciunas opposed the Avant-Garde Festivals

2000-03-27 Thread Reed Altemus

Thanks for clearing this up Ken.

RA

Ken Friedman wrote:

 Reed Altemus writes,

 "I'm thinking perhaps Maciunas had little reason to see Charlotte's
 Festivals as competitive with his Fluxus program, in which case I conclude
 that he was just generally threatened by women who were doing things cf.
 Carolee Schneeman (later). He certainly seemed to get along fine with Yoko
 Ono at the time."

 George's opposition to the festival was not sexist. It was an issue of
 programmatic positions in his aesthetic-political system.

 George saw the Avant-Garde Festival as a large, eclectic stew of projects
 -- in essence, this raised the problem of the "neo-Baroque" position to
 which he opposed the "neo-haiku" Fluxus position.

 George's problem with Carolee was based on the same argument. She was doing
 happenings and messy, sexy, meaty multimedia performance that stood at the
 other end of a spectrum from George's demand for a clean, clear, simplified
 art.

 This, incidentally, was also George's argument against happenings in
 general, and this is part of the difficulty with Al Hansen's work.

 George was a purist but never a sexist. At a time when there was little
 room for women in the art world, George welcomed and worked with Alison
 Knowles, Mieko Shiomi, Shigeko Kubota, Yoko Ono, Alice Hutchins, Carla Liss
 and others.

 It seemed to many others that there was room for a great deal of overlap,
 fuzziness and ambiguity in the Fluxus position. The fact that George
 rejected the Avant Garde festivals did not bother the many Fluxus artists
 who took part in them.

 But it should be stated that George was a person who made decisions --
 including silly decisions -- on principle, not on the basis of personality,
 gender, sexual preference, race, religion, etc. To the degree that George
 was occasionally "cranky," he was an equal-opportunity crank.

 Ken Friedman

 --




Re: FLUXLIST: dot-com biennial

2000-03-27 Thread Reed Altemus

Get out your oil paints and charcoal pencils kids, it's back to the dark ages
with Mr. Knight.

Patricia wrote:

 http://www.calendarlive.com/calendarlive/calendar/2324/t27765.html




FLUXLIST: summore dot-com biennial

2000-03-27 Thread Patricia

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/03/23
/DD108557.DTL




FLUXLIST: One Less Sense.

2000-03-27 Thread allen bukoff

in the email today...

From: "Ashley Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:13:00 PST

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installation blindfolded.

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Co-founder Red Dive


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RE: FLUXLIST: dot-com biennial

2000-03-27 Thread Porges, Timothy

A quick quiz for today's kunstkid:

"America's most distinctive contribution to World Culture" (quoting from mr.
Knight here, and i don't think he's being ironic)
is it:
Jazz?
James Brown?
Basketball?
Coca-Cola?
(a better, longer list might be generated in time, but it's none of these)
no! 
It's Christopher Knight and his pals, the "democratic, thoroughly
self-selected constituency of art, a social construct that may
be America's most distinctive contribution to World Culture." And no, i
don't think he's joking. Am i wrong, here? People, did Knight make a funny
and did i miss the joke? Or does this twit really think he and his are our
stars? It's not just the vanity here, it's the vacant, silly, pointless and
unearned vanity. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Reed Altemus [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 6:09 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: FLUXLIST: dot-com biennial
 
 Get out your oil paints and charcoal pencils kids, it's back to the dark
 ages
 with Mr. Knight.
 
 Patricia wrote:
 
 
 http://www.calendarlive.com/calendarlive/calendar/2324/t27765.html