Re: FLUXLIST: snow
Hi Sherry, you wrote: look i finally scanned in the snow event! http://www.smith.edu/~gwong/snow.html Great stuff, you must have been freezing! im graduating on sunday! woohoo! hey, anyone want to give me a job? Congratulations on graduating Sherry! I have a job to give away although I'm not giving away the wages with it...just the workload ;-) cheers, Sol.
Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine
corrected version - I always have to laugh when I hear that stupid John Lennon song, "Imagine"... especially when he sings "Imagine no possessions..." And what was the value of his estate at the time of his death? Yes, but surely John Lennon was always very much aware of how rich he was he pointed the finger at himself as much as everyone else hence the ironic title of the song and Yoko's art for a while seemed to be about how rich she could get and George made a whole album about material possessions and Paul did/ does something with his wealth and Ringo was a good drummer! -Roger
Re: FLUXLIST: snow
ahhh at first it wa snow good and wouldn't load but it's all white now an ice event, Sherry and good luck in the future with work and all that stuff... Roger
Re: FLUXLIST: Found Poem
Yes, please do!!! Sincerely yours, Zoe Ennui Agent of Lost Poets Who Are Found Roger Stevens wrote: may I use this fluxpoem in the fluxlist poetry book, please? -Roger - From: NeaL Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 09:26 Subject: FLUXLIST: Catalog info: Daniel Spoerri: May 11, NYC I talked to gallery. Woman didn't know me. She say come to gallery see book. I say, I in San Francisco. She say order book. Book real keen. The pictures are photos. Can see things. She say send check for $11.50. She send book. But she no have books until next week. She say that is special price! The address is: Emily Harvey Gallery 537 Broadway NYC, NY 10012 You talk to lady: 212-925-7651 Oh boy! This is not a Spoerrious message!!! neal
Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine
Roger, We seem to be one at least a similar wavelength here. John never did lose his working class sensibilities, that's for sure. However, I cannot recall a single instance in which he actually practiced what he preached when it came to possessions. As much as I admire and respect the man for his art and his creativity, certain things about him spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E to me. I've been personally divided over this for years. My heart enjoys him. My head abhors him. Myke
Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlist box online
allen bukoff wrote: Please join me in thanking, congratulating, and saluting Sol Nte and Owen Smith for the fabulous job they did in organizing the fluxlist box project. AMEN AMEN AMEN. No furthur comments needed. Don
Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine
interesting detail that george maciunas designed the innersleeve of the imagine album. good maciunas-like typography. (the stings on that album are called the flux fiddlers) he also designed the inside cover (photocollage) of onos double lp fly, which also features joe jones. so pretty much fluxus connection here. the lettering on the cover "imagine john lennon" and "fly yoko ono" looks a lot like being done by maciunas. cu gabriel
Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine
I'm here because of my fascination with Yoko's art and the influences she and John had directly on me which comes through in that which I create. Myke
Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine
Interesting that Ringo Starr has a recent tv commercial out for Schwab... If you haven't seen it, shows Ringo band playing and attempting to compose - Guitarist gets stuck on the word "elation" "man, what rhymes with elation?" Ringo pipes up with: "dividend reinvestment participation? market capitalization? European market fluctuation? industry globalization? asset allocation?" This is all set up to show us that Schwab has created a different sort of investor - knowledgeable, etc. Somehow, I don't think Ringo is doing his own investing. Best, PK Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote: Roger, We seem to be one at least a similar wavelength here. John never did lose his working class sensibilities, that's for sure. However, I cannot recall a single instance in which he actually practiced what he preached when it came to possessions. As much as I admire and respect the man for his art and his creativity, certain things about him spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E to me. I've been personally divided over this for years. My heart enjoys him. My head abhors him. Myke
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Box
gabriel swossil wrote: my contribution got lost in the mail (so its a imaginary piece. or one can guess which contribution is by me and any choice for one of the unsigned pieces is in fact wrong.) so for fluxlistbox2 i will do some "double feature". one part of it can then be put in fluxlistbox1. something like that. I like this idea--you'd have a 'box hopping' piece. But the 'wrong attribution flux event' works too -rosalie
Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine
High! I'm here because of my fascination with Yoko's art and the influences she and John had directly on me which comes through in that which I create. Myke Oh, Lord, it's so nice to create! Hugh! aa
Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine
Oh, Lord, it's so nice to create! Actually, I've been told that we cannot truly create anything. We can only rearrange that which has already been created. But I'm not so sure. My recordings go beyond the physical. Myke
FLUXLIST: Interessted in Netart ? www.verybusy.org is the gate to it.
Hello everybody at the FLUXlist.
If you're interessted in media / net / art or generelly in actual forms
of contemporary electronic art let me introduce the
search database
www.verybusy.org
which is actual covering over 500 netart Projects, tons of ezines, mediaart institutions and festivals
Netart is a kind of (electronic) art which uses the media internet as playground to the artists (alternative) points of view. So don't expect to find documentations on common art like Picasso Scans Gallery here ;-)
The Aim of verybusy.org is to set up a general entrancepoint (portal) for people who are interessted in netart projects on one hand and to start the work of archiving like a virtual museum on the other hand.
Verybusy.org is ment as a container - a skeleton, which is being fulfilled and enhanced by the decentral input of the users that are focused on mediaart/netart. In opposite to other (media/net)Art or Cultureservers and commercial Searchengines, verybusy.org - center for hardwired arts takes a new way between refering to friends linklists and technological/context-missing architectures of common searchengines. The database content is not blown up by automatic searchrobots nor shrink by the single objectivity of a editorial staff. The maxime of verybusy.org is autonomity, as this ensure the maximum of objectivity on nowadays netart. Beside the art database, the server underlines the autonomous usage by the users in many ways, such as collaborative titlecovers, filesharing, discussion board and even the error messages (404 File not found) can be customized by the vistitors.
We invite all artists, curators, theorecticans to contribute to this fine project as this is the worlds first and still the one and only database for netart specific collections. Please submit your artists work at: www.verybusy.org/add_remote.htm and tell your friends !
If you want to use the full functionality of the verybusy.org database directly from within you server, simply put this source to your website:
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form action=http://www.verybusy.org/cgi-bin/search.pl name=Formular target=_blank
SEARCH AT www.verybusy.org
input type=text name=searchkeys size=20
input type=hidden name=parameter value=all
input type=hidden name=target value=_blank
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input type=button name=add value=add project = 'http://www.verybusy.org/add_remote.htm'
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This will enable a searchinterface at your page. If you are a little bit skilled in HTML you'll surely can modify it to fit your webservers corporate identity.
thanks for listening and your contribution,
spiv / www.verybusy.org / admin staff
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FLUXLIST: Art and Economies
On Sun, 14 May 2000, Patricia wrote: With all due respect, let's keep the stock tips on silicon investor and yahoo message boards. OTOH, I would be very interested in economic models for artists and the net. I was on a panel at a conference at the NYU Law School about "Free Information in the Digital Environment" last month and there was a great deal of talk about the need to think in terms of Law and Economics. I spoke, quite naively, about Free Art but I learned a great deal since the others included people like Richard Stallman, Lawrence Lessig, Pam Samuelson, Eben Moglen, Jessica Litman, etc. Needless to say, I've been attempting to be less naive about economies, especially art and economics. I know Ken Friedman has posted lengthy essays around this subject and I think I saved most of them. The design theorist John Chris Jones sent me his new book from ellipsis, "The Internet and Everyone" and I've found his chapter on flow diagrams concerning automation very helpful as well as Jane Jacobs' "The Nature of Economies" (The Modern Library). I see several net-based art economic models being created, as well as all of those that have failed over the past eight years. At the law conference one speaker suggested we replace the concept of copyright with one of reward, then imagine how that system might be created. I found that a very helpful technique and very much like what Fluxus tried/tries to do: imagine other ways of creating value other than the traditional artmarket. I contend that the most engaging art tends to be created when the artist is working as closely as possible to a subsistance level, that is, with a minimum of "imported" raw material as possible so that the need to "export" (and be controlled by the market) is minimalized. Value is created in the "processing" stage using natural resources (eg: conceptualizing, craftsmanship). In other words, something like Thoreau's "Walden" model. Robbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://artnetweb.com/iola/
FLUXLIST: Re: napster economies: PayLars.com (fwd)
"eCommerce Group Says MP3 Piracy Appears To Be Good For CD Sales" http://www.applelinks.com/articles/2000/05/2515133014.shtml /:b
Re: FLUXLIST: Art and Economies
Freidrich von Hayek Freidrich von Hayek! Now, that's a name I've not heard since... Myke
Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine
They both had their shortcomings, so what, we all do. We all know John's. What were Jesus'? Myke
Re: FLUXLIST: The Dream Is Over
I've never had dreams of being mainstream. However, I have had nightmares about being completely ripped off. In fact, I'm having one of those right now. Myke W A K E U P, M Y K E ! W A K E U P !!!
Re: FLUXLIST: Winkle Club
Hi I'm back hmmm 98 fluxlist emmissions to check out and Myke is a Men Without Hats fan well, well - c'est interesting had a drink in a pub in Brighton on Friday called The Leek and Winkle -thought you'd like to know that tried the snow website but only a title page came up - is that me or the page? the fluxlist box idea does sound like a good school project it would need adapting of course but not a lot I can do personally with this at the moment nice suggestion, tho! must go and do some work now don't forget to send your flux poems closing date end of this month -Roger Children's poetry in The Poetry Zone http://www.poetryzone.ndirect.co.uk
Re: FLUXLIST: Strong Buy Recommendation - last one went up 125% since April 13(fwd)
Terrence writes; Strong caution. Any stock promoted that has anything to do with Vancouver is questionable. 'Strong dip' is the promoters and pals tripling etc their cash. tempting but naaa T.
Re: FLUXLIST: Napst.er/Freenet
High! On Sun, 14 May 2000, George Free wrote: It may be, "If this whole thing catches on", that we will begin to question the very institution of private property itself.George http://www.c3.hu/~iput/belgrad/25.html Hugh! aa
