FLUXLIST: Leonardo's backwards writing

2000-06-28 Thread Ken Friedman

Leonardo was ambidextrous.

He wrote and drew equally well with either hand.

His writing was mirror writing. This is
not necessarily a symptom of dyslexia. All letters and
words were correct and in proper order.

Leonardo's notebooks and research papers were
written backwards to encode and protect the
infirmation.

His correspondence and public material was
written forwards, easily readable by anyone.

-- Ken Friedman

--





FLUXLIST: Explanations

2000-06-28 Thread Patricia

That last "da pomes" post was about Roger Stevens' project on
Fluxlist poetry.  Roger compiled posts from various folks,
poetry, you know, and stuff like that  and published it.  My
quote about Bruce Conner was about attempting to do things
differently, like, sideways.  Lines, stuff, turn it around, know
what I mean.  Try that, with a piece of lined paper.  You could
do that, I know you could.  Substance?  Don't know, you work that
out, eh?

Work on your sense of humour.  It's a fun exercise.

Smile.

Fluxus is Watching You.




Re: FLUXLIST: ON THE WAY.......

2000-06-28 Thread BestPoet

In a message dated 06/28/2000 8:15:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Cease practice based on intellectual
  
 understanding, pursuing words and following
   after
 speech, and learn the backward step
   that turns
 your light inwardly to illuminate
   yourself.
 Body and mind of themselves will drop
   away and
 your original face will be manifest.
 
 
 -- Dogen (1200-1253)  >>

Could you please repeat that without pursuing words? 



Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Conner Quote

2000-06-28 Thread BestPoet

In a message dated 06/28/2000 10:03:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< > >>>“If they give you lined paper, write the other way.”
 > >>>Bruce Conner >>
 
21st Century update:

When people give you a sheet of white paper for your printer, make it 
landscape.

Hmmm. Just doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?

BP



Re: FLUXLIST: Seven Telephone Events

2000-06-28 Thread { brad brace }

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Ken Friedman wrote:

> These events are copyright (c) Fluxus 1967, 1975, and copyright (c) Ken
> Friedman 1967, 1975, 1979, 1992, 2000. All rights reserved. Permission is
> granted to reproduce or perform these events provided that credit is given
> and copyright is acknowledged.

Obscene Event

Officiously and tediously document for the sake-of-documenting 'art' for
the sake of documenting and blindly 'legitimatizing' the pseudo expert
practice of 'official artists.' Make more vicious empty circles; hung-up. 

(no c) /:b





Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Conner Quote

2000-06-28 Thread Devon Paulson




> >>>“If they give you lined paper, write the other way.”
> >>>Bruce Conner
>
>
>they may be trying to be helpful
>
>
Don't do it!
REVOLT!!

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FLUXLIST: da pomes

2000-06-28 Thread Patricia

There once was a poet named Stevens
Whose publishings exceeded evens
the wildest dreams
of contributors reams
of poetical insights and leavin's

Brings tears to mine eyes
this package of tries
of divine words and
lovely poetics

Your efforts do credit
And we're in you're debit

Oh Shit, you did a great job, you sillygoof,

Ain't You the Best

I Love It

Bless, PK









FLUXLIST: LIVE INTERACTIVE SOUND EVENT ((NOW!!!))

2000-06-28 Thread Crisarc2000

  

ALTERNATIVE MUSEUM
http://alternativemuseum.org/tam_monitor
Live Webcast Events 

-

LIVE! INTERACTIVE WEBCAST EVENT!
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 28. 2000 ( - 2400 CET)

"DIALTONE" -by TAMAS SZAKAL(digital sound artist 
from Germany)of CONTOUR.NET

DIALTONE is a net audio installation exposing the 
physical and virtual space of the internet and 
attempting to open this hybrid space for sounds 
and noises by using simple telecomunication 
instruments like telephones and answering 
machines. This audio interface between telephone 
network and the internet explores how interaction 
and compression changes audio in a network. The 
installation connects the venue to our 
telecommunication network through sound and 
vision.

3 answering machines recieve 3 minute sound 
samples from all around the world. People 
transmit audio tracks with simple telephones by 
dialing one of the 3 "sound servers" and 
uploading nioses, words, or music. The machines 
are connected to an audio mixer and a to an 
amplifier for performing and installing the audio 
network live. Visitors in the venue mix the 
uploaded samples and work with the content of the 
system. 3 cameras capture the displays of the 
answering machines which are
projected back into the space for a phisical and 
for a virtual audience - live at the gallery 
(pavillon crescendo / Leipzig) and on
http://contour.net/dialtone/

 



Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Conner Quote

2000-06-28 Thread David Baptiste Chirot



due to some problems with server today--

am not sure if brief note re the connor quote came through

it was to suggest that connor wrote as he did as an action against
conformity and authority

that is, he notes that "they" gave him the lined (or as it is also
called "ruled") paper--

meaning that some kind of authority is "ordering" the structure
of  the communication, the writing

in response, connor writes "against the grain" 

as a sign of his refusal and resistance
to this "ordering"







RE: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #357

2000-06-28 Thread Villani, Adam

> I have heard that an exclusive diet of Kaopectate will have 
> you shitting
> porcelain turds inside of a week. But I must say I've never tried it.

Last year for medical reasons I had a barium enema and lower
gastrointestinal x-rays. For a couple of days afterwards, everything that
came out of my butt was completely white --- it was as if white paint (and
later, white-painted stools) were coming out of my butt. Pretty amazing.

BTW, the medical problem turned out not to be too bad.

Adam



Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Conner Quote

2000-06-28 Thread Alex Cook

Isn't that a form of dislexia? I thought I had read that Leonardo did that 
at places in his sketchbooks, and that the experts said it was from 
dislexia.

My father can do that as well. He doesn't have dislexia, but does have a 
photographic memory, and is blind in one eye since birth, so I guess it has 
to do with the brain being able to process visual information differently 
from the rest, possibly to compensate for a disability.

though it sounds like more of an asset to me than a liability.

Best regards,
Alex

ann wrote:

>I used to write with equal facility backwards or forwards, infact, if
. What does this mean? I've always wondered--
>Does anyone else do this?
>
>AK
>


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Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Conner Quote

2000-06-28 Thread ann klefstad



George Free wrote:

> I believe someone else posted this quotation. As for myself, I don't get it.
> Lined paper is a useful technology which I find helpful. I also find it
> helpful when people write from left to right, though thoughtful alternatives
> can be stimulating ;-)

I used to write with equal facility backwards or forwards, infact, if I was
taking notes or something, not really looking at what I was writing, I would be
surprised sometimes to realize that I was writing backwards. Also, in life
drawing classes I would often notice (only when people would point it out,
oddly) that I had done a mirror image of the pose--there the model would be, in
20 drawings, facing left, and in mine she'd be reversed. Because I never
cultivated this tendency--in fact, I always chose to write the normal way, it
was only when I wasn't paying attention that it happened the other
way--gradually I lost the tendency. I can still write backwards or draw
backwards, but it takes some effort. I was cheered, however, when the other day,
when I was transferring an image from a maquette to a wall, I did it backward
without thinking. What does this mean? I've always wondered--
Does anyone else do this?

AK




Re: FLUXLIST: "botticelli's venus...

2000-06-28 Thread narvis & ...pez

At 10:01 am +0100 28/6/00, Roger Stevens wrote:
>pez says...
>
>>coats to shore on the half-shell. sexual love is
>>a deep sea diving the timeless and elemental .
>
>
>may the fish be with you

i think so





Re: FLUXLIST: ON THE WAY.......

2000-06-28 Thread David Baptiste Chirot



Champoy:  thank you--this brought to mind these:


He who walks in hiddenness

Has light to guide him

In all his acts.

--Chuang Tzu


he who walks with his house on

his head is heaven he

who walks with his house

on his head is heaven he who walks

with his house on his head


--Charles Olson







On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, CHAMPOY wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Cease practice based on intellectual
>  
> understanding, pursuing words and following
>   after
> speech, and learn the backward step
>   that turns
> your light inwardly to illuminate
>   yourself.
> Body and mind of themselves will drop
>   away and
> your original face will be manifest.
> 
> 
> -- Dogen (1200-1253) 
> 
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere!
> http://mail.yahoo.com/
> 






FLUXLIST: ON THE WAY.......

2000-06-28 Thread CHAMPOY




Cease practice based on intellectual
 
understanding, pursuing words and following
  after
speech, and learn the backward step
  that turns
your light inwardly to illuminate
  yourself.
Body and mind of themselves will drop
  away and
your original face will be manifest.


-- Dogen (1200-1253) 

__
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Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere!
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Re: FLUXLIST: RE: melancholy

2000-06-28 Thread David Baptiste Chirot



on the way to supermarket--

saw a melon collie

inside--

a sale on melon

but no collie

weed



On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Ronsen, Josh wrote:

> > brad brace writes:
> > 
> >in the cynical 00's melancholy itself becomes a kind of
> >commodity
> 
> I can get some for you at wholesale prices... 
> 
> -Josh Ronsen
> http://www.nd.org/jronsen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 






FLUXLIST: Seven Telephone Events

2000-06-28 Thread Ken Friedman

Seven telephone events ... four from the 1960s, two from the 1970s, one
from the 1990s.

Ken Friedman


--


Telephone Car Event

Hide a normal desk telephone and a bell in your car or in any car. At an
unexpected moment, ring the bell. Answer the phone and start talking. This
piece may be varied by using a suitcase, on a street corner, in a
restaurant, under a table, etc.

1967

First performed in San Francisco, California with Steve Abrams. This piece
was originally titled Telecar.


--


Telephone Clock

Telephone someone.
Announce the time.

1967

First realized in San Francisco, California in February, 1967.


--


Telephone Event

Take a standard desk telephone to someone's door. Ring the bell. When
someone comes to the door, hand the phone to them, saying, "It's for you."

1967

First realized in San Francisco, California in February, 1967.


--


Telephone for You

Take a standard desk telephone with you in a car. Drive up to people,
handing the phone out through the window, saying, "It's for you." This
piece may also be performed using a suitcase or briefcase in unexpected
situations, in an elevator, on a street corner, in a restaurant, etc.

1967

First performed during the Aktual/Keeping Together Manifestation, March
1967. Originally titled Telephone for Steve Abrams.


--


In One Year and Out the Other

On New Year's Eve, make a telephone call from one time zone to another so
that you are conducting a conversation between people located in two years.

1975

I first performed this event on New Year's Eve 1975-1976, calling from
Springfield, Ohio forward to Dick Higgins, Christo, and Nam June Paik in
New York, then back to Tom Garver and Natasha Nicholson in California. I
have celebrated this work annually since then, frequently calling Tom
Garver, Peter Frank, Newton and Helen Harrison, Abraham Friedman and Dick
Higgins. For New Year's of 1992-1993 I used telefax for the first time in
performing this work. I sent telefax messages with the score to Christo and
Jeanne-Claude Christo, Peter Frank, Abraham and Shirley Friedman, Dick
Higgins, Hong Hee Kim-Cheon, Choong-Sup and Yeong Lim, Karen and David Moss.


--


Three Texts for Jim Pallas

Evidence.
Piety.
Perseverance.

1979

First performed in 1979 during preparations for the Phone Event during the
month of January, 1989, organized by Jim Pallas in Detroit, Michigan.


--


Bird Call

Make a telephone call to a bird. If you do not know a bird who has a
telephone, make a telephone call in which you make bird noises.

1992

First realized with a telephone call to Jack Ox's parakeet, Dwight, then
living in Cologne.


--


These events are copyright (c) Fluxus 1967, 1975, and copyright (c) Ken
Friedman 1967, 1975, 1979, 1992, 2000. All rights reserved. Permission is
granted to reproduce or perform these events provided that credit is given
and copyright is acknowledged.


--





Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Conner Quote

2000-06-28 Thread Roger Stevens


>>>“If they give you lined paper, write the other way.”
>>>Bruce Conner


they may be trying to be helpful





FLUXLIST: Re:digress V1 #357

2000-06-28 Thread Roger Stevens

champoy

you might consider suppositories laced with coloured dye

or would that be cheating?





Re: FLUXLIST: "botticelli's venus...

2000-06-28 Thread Roger Stevens

pez says...

>coats to shore on the half-shell. sexual love is
>a deep sea diving the timeless and elemental .


may the fish be with you





Re: FLUXLIST: My Blue Poop

2000-06-28 Thread Terrence J Kosick

Terrence writes;

Very clever passing note for art school. Blue poop beats beets. ;-)

T.

James Smith wrote:

> I am a lurker, but Champoy's post prompted me to write.  I have just
> recently graduated University in May 2000.  In one of my final courses,
> entitled "Experimental Concepts," we were asked to develop a project
> centered around time--specifically we were to create a piece that would be
> clearly affect by time.  I purchased an enormous blue cake--frosting &
> bread, everything was blue--horrifically radioactive blue.  At critique I
> served the cake, along with blue punch.  After everyone was finished, I
> passed out self-addressed (addressed to me) postcards with simply "Yes" or
> "No."  I asked them to let me know if they were "affected" by my
> piece--hence the "Yes" or "No."  The postcards served as documentation &
> even exist as another piece unto itself.  It was most exciting, and fun for
> me.
>
> I think projects such as these give new meaning to Art Movement.
>
> Enjoy,
> James
>
> --
> >From: CHAMPOY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #357
> >Date: Tue, Jun 27, 2000, 4:36 AM
> >
>
> >
> > i'm trying to make artworks out of my feces by trying
> > to eat different kinds of foods and drinking some
> > edible coloringsany suggestions what other kinds
> > of food that i might eat to produce such a very
> > interesting effect on my feces.
> >
> > -champoy hate
> >
> > __
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Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Conner Quote

2000-06-28 Thread Terrence J Kosick


Terrence writes;
Ever seen vertical lined (japanese) paper? I wanted some the moment
i saw it. Just for the reason it jared my cultural perception/preconceptions.
T.
I will be out of my mind from 06/25/2000 until 07/05/2000.
I will respond to your message when I return. Please
call Dr. Cooper
604-733-5995 if you need my immediate attention.
 
George Free wrote:
I believe someone else posted this quotation. As
for myself, I don't get it.
Lined paper is a useful technology which I find helpful. I also find
it
helpful when people write from left to right, though thoughtful alternatives
can be stimulating ;-)
>George wrote:
>
>>
>>“If they give you lined paper, write the other way.”
>>Bruce Conner
>>
>>
>
>This is my favorite quote ever. I can't believe that you wrote it.
I live
by
>this quote.
>Thanks for letting me know it was Bruce Conner who said or wrote it.
I
>remember it from the front page of "Fahrenheit 451" by Bradbary.
>Anyways, thanx again George, that made my night.
>
>ac
>
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>
>



Re: FLUXLIST: Re: stamps (for fluxlist?)

2000-06-28 Thread Terrence J Kosick


Terrence writes;
I almost forgot about this. Personalized stamps. I wonder of the many
clever ways this can be utilized?
This might be a fun way of getting some good publicity by jamin` with
the post's latest thang.
Just what are the costs and the restrictions?
 
T.
artnatural.
I will be out of my mind from 06/25/2000 until 07/05/2000.
I will respond to your message when I return. Please
call Dr. Cooper
604-733-5995 if you need my immediate attention.
 
 
Carol Starr wrote:
hi PK,
in today's nytimes.com
wonderful, as i told kiku this morning, don't you love it?
best, Carol :)   :)   :)
 
CALGARY JOURNAL
 
Topple the Queen! Enthrone Yourself on a Stamp
 
For Canadians tired of airbrushed photos of the queen on their
 
stamps, Canada Post suggests the 21st-century alternative:
 
personalize your postage with a photo of the new baby or the loyal
 
dog.
http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/americas/062700canada-journal.html
carol starr
taos, new mexico, usa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]