Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXSTAMP project

2000-07-02 Thread ann klefstad

Now, now . . . John Held's butt does not come amiss. A welcome bit of
info--as is the fact, which I always suspected, that P. is a redhead.

AK

allen bukoff wrote:

> better proof to me would be a close-up image of a perfed sheet of
> stamps...instead of pictures of John Held's butt
>
> >Proof of perforation
> >
> >01 July 2000
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/pk_harris/seven.html




Re: FLUXLIST: Time pieces ...

2000-07-02 Thread ann klefstad

My husband Jeffrey once took a photo of everything that went in his mouth
for a month. It makes a lovely assemblage, though the longest he ever put
together in one place was a week . . .

AK

Patricia wrote:

> I've always liked the time piece in the film "Smoke" where Harvey Kietel
> places his tripod/camera at the same spot in front of his shop every day
> at the same time and takes a photograph.
>
> This might be a great fluxlist group project.  Well, maybe not for a
> year, but for a month...photographing something every day (in a small
> way, maybe i-zone to conserve space) or small drawings or paintings, and
> compiling them for a specific time...a Fluxlist Month, or whatever.
>
> A month in the life of...
>
> What think you?
>
> Best
> PK




Re: FLUXLIST: Time pieces ...

2000-07-02 Thread Patricia

I've always liked the time piece in the film "Smoke" where Harvey Kietel
places his tripod/camera at the same spot in front of his shop every day
at the same time and takes a photograph.

This might be a great fluxlist group project.  Well, maybe not for a
year, but for a month...photographing something every day (in a small
way, maybe i-zone to conserve space) or small drawings or paintings, and
compiling them for a specific time...a Fluxlist Month, or whatever.

A month in the life of...

What think you?

Best
PK




Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXSTAMP project

2000-07-02 Thread Patricia

Hey,

This is documentation, Mister.  This is a performance piece, shot
from all the right angles, from my view.  Wow!!!

You get your stamps soon.

You see the perfs closeup, check your perfs first hand.

You wait your turn.

Mister.





allen bukoff wrote:

> better proof to me would be a close-up image of a perfed sheet of
> stamps...instead of pictures of John Held's butt
>
> >Proof of perforation
> >
> >01 July 2000
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/pk_harris/seven.html




Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXSTAMP project

2000-07-02 Thread allen bukoff

better proof to me would be a close-up image of a perfed sheet of 
stamps...instead of pictures of John Held's butt


>Proof of perforation
>
>01 July 2000
>
>http://www.geocities.com/pk_harris/seven.html




FLUXLIST: FLUXSTAMP project

2000-07-02 Thread Patricia

Proof of perforation

01 July 2000

http://www.geocities.com/pk_harris/seven.html




FLUXLIST: Fwd: HOW TO GET OFF MY MAILING LIST

2000-07-02 Thread allen bukoff

in the email today...a long winding one...


>Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 16:47:34 -0400
>From: al aronowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Organization: THE BLACKLISTED JOURNALIST
>Subject: HOW TO GET OFF MY MAILING LIST
>
>DEAR FRIEND,
>
>I’m forced to apologize for the blank messages you recently received
>from my computer, sometimes twice and maybe even three times.  There
>were long lists of alphabetized eaddresses on them.
>
>Actually, this is really more of an explanation than an apology.  Those
>blank messages were the result of a virus emailed to me like a package
>bomb in the same manner that Theodore Kaczynski, the notorious
>Unabomber, spread destruction and sometimes death from his cowardly
>anonymity.  You’ve got to admit that the minds of the Unabomber and
>whoever mails a computer virus are similarly afflicted.  In fact, such
>creeps also are cursed with the same kind of juvenile devotion to
>negativity evinced by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, the two sickies who
>massacred their classmates at Colorado’s Colombine High.  To swagger
>through hell like Wild West gunslingers, is that what the two of them
>wanted?  To live only long enough to enjoy the psychopathic pride they
>sought in being mass murderers? Like Adolf Hitler, all Harris and
>Klebold achieved was the privilege of being able to blow their own
>brains out.
>
>Virus villains are careful not to get blood on their hands but they are
>murderers nonetheless.  They shoot like deadly snipers from the cover of
>anonymity.  Like Harris and Klebold , they have nothing but contempt for
>the world.   Like Harris and Klebold, they don’t care that the world has
>an even greater contempt for them.
>
>Certainly, contempt is what I have for the slimebrain who sent me that
>virus.  That was many weeks ago, all wasted in trying to restore what I
>could from the burnt shell of my hard drive.  At first, I was angry
>enough to kill.  But I’m really not that bloodthirsty.  It had never
>before occurred to me that I might possess dark powers, but I once put a
>curse on someone who ended up hanging himself in the most gruesome way.
>The story I got is that he used a wire coat hanger for a noose.
>
>I regret to admit I greeted that news with a smirk.  But years of
>misgivings, have long since wiped that smirk off my face.  As I said,
>I’m really not that bloodthirsty.  Besides, I believe in Karma.  For
>every yin there’s a yang.  What goes around comes around.  In other
>words, the snake who sent me that venom has already doomed himself (or
>herself).  In one way or another, he (or she) will--- at least
>figuratively---end up having to swallow the very same poison that he (or
>she) fed to me.
>
>Malice is in itself negative energy.  And if there’s one thing life has
>taught me, it’s that negative energy is always counterproductive.  To
>send out bad vibes is like spitting in the wind.  The spit blows right
>back into your face.  Negative energy will always boomerang back at you.
>
>Look at all the negative energy boomeranging back at me, starting back
>in 1972, when I was blacklisted from print journalism for no good
>reason.  I was writing the very successful POP SCENE column in the New
>York Post at the time but obviously, I musta done something wrong.
>
>But what did I do to deserve this virus?  My views are sometimes very
>unorthodox and so I know there are a lot of people who disagree with
>things I write.  But I suspect the virus maybe came from among those in
>my email address book who didn’t want to be on my mailing list.  I’m
>still pretty much computer illiterate, see, and when they asked to be
>removed from my mailing list, I couldn’t find their listings to remove.
>I asked them if they were sure the eaddress was the same to which I had
>sent the unwanted email.  I asked them to be patient and they got mad.
>In response, I was foolish enough to ask if maybe they were just some
>crank putting me on.  They didn’t like that.
>
>Of course, the fact that I was computer illiterate enough---foolhardy is
>a better word---not to know that I should never open attachments without
>being sure of what they contain shows what a patsy I still am.  Me, I’m
>so innocent, I didn’t even know enough to keep updating my antivirus
>program. So I get this email from an alleged “Dr. Miller” and open the
>attachment, just like I customarily open all attachments and my
>antivirus program tells me I have a virus and the program can’t do
>anything about it because I haven’t updated my virus definitions.
>
>Like Harris and Klebold swaggering through hell, these virus villains
>swagger through cyberspace.   They’re the gunslingers of the digital
>age, looking for computers to murder at the slightest excuse.  But
>really, they’re no better than vandals overturning gravestones in
>cemeteries.  They’re nothing but bullies, see.  They know more about
>computers than you do, so they hold you in contempt.  They know you
>can’t outdraw them.  And they come heavily armed.  The bullets they
>sho

Re: FLUXLIST: Time pieces ...

2000-07-02 Thread Kathy Forer

Ken Friedman wrote:
>Time Travel Piece #1 is essentially
>a piece that Alan Sonfist did in New York.
>
>It was created in the early 1960s and was
>up for several decades. Don't know if
>it still exists. It was a plot of land (larger
>than 10 x 10) that was returned to the
>state of natural vegetation on the site
>that existed before the Dutch settled
>the area.

An everyday tangent: There are gardeners and conservators engaged in 
essentially the same thing. Interestingly there's a big difference 
between wildflowers and native plants.

Plant Conservation Alliance Website http://www.nps.gov/plants/
PNW Native Plant & Wildlife Organizations 
http://www.tardigrade.org/natives/orgs.html
King County Native Plant Salvage Program 
http://dnr.metrokc.gov/wlr/pi/salvage.htm
FICUS: Ecosystem Descriptions 
http://www.ficus.usf.edu/docs/fl_ecosystem/florida.htm

F,K



Re: FLUXLIST: Time pieces ...

2000-07-02 Thread BestPoet

In a message dated 07/02/2000 10:06:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I so agree.
 With Emily.
  >>

Interesting fact: Many of Emily's great poems (rhythm schemes) can be sung to 
the tune of The Yellow Rose of Texas as in:

Although I could not stop for Death
Death kindly stopped for me



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2000-07-02 Thread Dream Escape

o u r v o i r e m o u r m o i r e - l i v e

[aube]
[zbigniew karkowski]
[florian hecker]
[tito diaz]

http://www.dream-escape.org/tto



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Re: FLUXLIST: Time pieces ...

2000-07-02 Thread Patricia

I so agree.
With Emily.

On the open eye indoor mind eye side time piece, land travel
piece, one to bookmark and come back to as it has much depth
mindwise landwise travelwise, eyewise and quotewise.

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/slade/digita/ecology2.html

PK

David Baptiste Chirot wrote:

> TO CLOSE THE EYES IS TRAVEL
>
> -Emily Dickinson
>
> (dbc)




Re: FLUXLIST: Time pieces ...

2000-07-02 Thread David Baptiste Chirot



TO CLOSE THE EYES IS TRAVEL

-Emily Dickinson

(dbc)






FLUXLIST: Time pieces ...

2000-07-02 Thread Ken Friedman

Rich history time pieces available.

Am leaving for France, so can't gather
mine to post.

If still interested, can do so on return.

Time Travel Piece #1 is essentially
a piece that Alan Sonfist did in New York.

It was created in the early 1960s and was
up for several decades. Don't know if
it still exists. It was a plot of land (larger
than 10 x 10) that was returned to the
state of natural vegetation on the site
that existed before the Dutch settled
the area.

-- Ken Friedman

--

Time Travel Piece #1
by Adam Villani, 2000

Designate a 10' by 10' square plot of urbanized land and return it to the
state it was in before humans settled the area. The time travel area should
extend down from the surface into bedrock, and up into the sky. Any changes
in elevation should be corrected.

--






Re: FLUXLIST: The Snow Event/Fridge

2000-07-02 Thread Crisarc2000

hello fluxlisters,

this is interesting, anyone checked it out>

http://www.eyestorm.com/events/goldsworthy/webcast.html