Re: FLUXLIST: Trial by e-jury
Free Fluxlist Now! /:b I appreciate brad's desire to have an open forum. I agree with him. -- rosalie gancie
Re: FLUXLIST: Breton removed?
Surely there's a difference between a Dadaist who disrupts a theatre performance and a heckler who spoils everyone's enjoyment? Or is there? Interesting point - Didn't Breton break someone's arm while disrupting a Tzara performance? And his work is in MOMA. Though MOMA probably won't let the Viennese Actionists in. I missed mo***mento's post--perhaps it was a asciionist event. --rosalie
Re: FLUXLIST: RE: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #345
Who was more Dada? The Dada poets who provoked riots in the theater, or the theater-goers who did the rioting? And Nam June Paik cutting John Cage's tie...not at all 'polite', some said 'grandstanding', but he's in MOMA too, for what that's worth. -rosalie
Re: FLUXLIST: Breton removed?
One particularly memorable piece from that show was the French guy who canned his own feces and sold it as "artist's shit," with the price fixed to the price of gold. Manzoni, I think, perhaps Piero Manzoni? I found a website of the cans that included some discussion on the difficulties such artwork poses for the museum curator. But Manzoni's a conceptual artist, so who knows? Maybe the cans are filled with conceptual waste. But I believe the cans are in some museums... -rosalie
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Box
gabriel swossil wrote: my contribution got lost in the mail (so its a imaginary piece. or one can guess which contribution is by me and any choice for one of the unsigned pieces is in fact wrong.) so for fluxlistbox2 i will do some "double feature". one part of it can then be put in fluxlistbox1. something like that. I like this idea--you'd have a 'box hopping' piece. But the 'wrong attribution flux event' works too -rosalie
Re: FLUXLIST: box as mature defendable phenotype
Rod Stasick wrote: Folks amidst the fluxlISThmus: "The Box" arrived today! It is absolutely wonderful and beautiful in so many ways! Cheers to all who participated! Many of the inserts are so delicate that I don't want to open them (maybe later...?). Thanks to Owen for assembly (if you want to make a performance of it, remove all items and then try to put them back in as snug as they originally came.) Even the label is good looking (Sol?) BRAVO! Rod Yes, I agree! Full of surprises, a lot to look at a puzzle to restore it all back into the box. I like the fact that it will take a while to look at everything--it can't be absorbed all at once even though the box, in some ways, is not all that big. Lovely label, Sol thank you, Owen for the assembly, mailing cd. --Rosalie
Re: FLUXLIST: Carl Laszlo Query
St.Auby Tamas wrote: Sure he is an artist - since everybody is an artist. More precisely he is an art-collector. http://www.fellbach.de/dokumente/laszlo98.html Thank you...in the book it looks as though he wrote a manifesto or two, but I don't read German, so I can't really tell. The book mentions Otto Piene, and I think Piero Manzoni. The web page you mention lists Arp William Burroughs. So he really got around! Heiko kindly offered to translate some of the book, but the hinge is tender. If I find a way to get some of the text to him and it looks interesting I'll let you know. thanks, Rosalie
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Why?
Heiko Recktenwald wrote: As a joke Dada is definitely NOT overrated. Some Dada on the other hand was dead serious, like Berlin Dada. I'd always been taught, too, to view Dada as the work of hip pranksters who were always on the lookout for a joke. I was startled when I finally read Hugo Ball's Flight Out of Time: A Dada Diary. I was surprised at the depth of sadness directly involved in the movement over the war. Somehow the museums and art history books had removed the enormity of World War I right out of the discussion. And Luis Bunuel said that for him, Surrealism was 'above all, a moral movement'. That element too gets lost in contemporary discussions of Surrealism. Rosalie Gancie
Re: FLUXLIST: Advanced Book Exchange
Fluxlisters should also try searching for books on Advanced Book Exchange:http://www.abebooks.com They're similar to Bibliofind, but at this point they have more booksellers (5700 total I think). I own a small, scholarly used bookshop have been selling on both Bibliofind Advanced Book Exchange recommend them both. BarnesandNoble.com advertises used books, but they take the same books (from the same bookdealers) on ABE and Bibliofind and raise the price. And Amazon searches for used books, but they search on Bibliofind Advanced Book Exchange (ABE), and then raise the price. So I recommend that you just search for yourself on ABE Bibliofind. Happy Hunting, Rosalie Gancie Alphaville Bookshop Sol Nte wrote: Reed wrote: http://www.bibliofind.com/cgi-bin/texis.exe/s/search Thank you, thank you, thank you. It's fantastic, they have so much I've been looking for...now if you could also help me to find a better paid job so I can afford to buy all these books ;-) cheers, Sol. -- ÐÏࡱá
Re: FLUXLIST: archiver/Harry Smith question
partly, i gues, i mean artists like Maciunas, for whom keeping lists is part of their artistic practice, and partly i mean people for whom it's a bit more extreme than that: exhaustive ephemera collectors, that kinda thing. I've heard that the filmmaker Harry Smith had an exhaustive collection of cut-out images that he kept stored in his NY apartment in file cabinets. It's occurred to me that some people on this list may have known him personally. I'd be interested in any reminiscences that anyone is willing to share about him and/or his method of working. --Rosalie
