Re: FLUXLIST: artist residencies
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Hello all, Well I find time to chat now, so Patricia started the ball rolling so if I recap she wrote: I've had a short backforth post with a fellow fluxlister about art/study - my first thought was that, as a visual artist, I couldn't think of anyone I'd like to study with. Got me to thinking - most of the artists I would invisage tutelage are no longer around: to wit; and That's my list for today... What about yours? Now I'm generally not in favour of meeting my heroes in any media because I don't want to find out that they're normal people too, I'd rather they were superpowerful aliens with vastly superior aesthetic judgement and a manual dexterity that allowed them to create wonderfully in any medium. In fact there's nothing worse than the occasional realisation that people you admire are all too human, sometimes unpleasantly so, for example I'm a great admirer of William Burroughs work but I believe Burroughs the man leaves a lot to be desired and would have had no desire at all to get to know him also I don't believe he has anything to teach anyone, apart from perhaps the intricacies of finding a vein or using scissors and a newspaper to write a novel! So who would I like to study/hang out with, first thoughts off the top of my head, like Patricia I have a lot of not possibles due to the whole life/death thing that we're all currently caught up in: music John Cage not possible Sun Ra ..not possible Steve Reich .this could happen, I've been to a lecture of his when he performed in Manchester a few years ago and was most inspired. art (this is the toughest, I'd have to really think about live ones) Dick Higgins...not possible Joseph Beuys..not possible Ray Johnson.not possible literature Richard Brautigansadly, not possible William Gibsonmaybe, I like this guy's imagination Haruki Murakami...another maybe science Robert Anton Wilson ..possible, he still does lecture tours I think Buckminster Fuller not possible Richard Stallman ...possible film Woody Allen study only (not hanging out, too weird) George Lucas ...study only, Lucas was very into Joseph Campbell I believe(seems a bit dull for hanging out though) Kevin Smith ...study and hang out, hanging out with Silent Bob, How cool is that? Of course I could think of many more but I thought it fun to just pick the first 3 for each category off the top of my head. Film's a very hard category, especially because a lot of the films I love I can't remember the director's name...I love "La Haine" and was watching it on tape again the other night but I still can't remember the director's name and would have to look it up. Conversely the other morning, rushing for work as usual I found myself humming the tune from John Carpenter's "Assault on Precinct 13" and thinking of the word "cholo"random snippets from a big old brainful of popular drivel that I carry around...for some reason I find it very hard to remember important political or historical issues but have no trouble remembering the name of Buck Roger's robot companion "Tweakie"...make of it what you will my fellow artisans ;-) cheers, Sol.
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Well, who would I like to meet - hmmm Unlike Sol I quite like the fact that most mega-famous people are quite ordinary as human beings. I've met a few quite famous musicians and they were all reasonably normal - well, as normal as rock stars can be The nice thing is that when people are gifted in a particular field but relatively normal otherwise (not that I'd like to define normal) you can share in their brilliance - go - wow! yeah - how DID you think of that? I was talking to a well known UK children's poet a couple of weeks ago and he was very normal and a bit boring until he got up on stage and I thought - gosh! wow! amazing! actors are a bit like that too, aren't they artists to meet? duchamp - lots to talk about maybe have a game of chess yoko although would be tempted to talk about John all night a few of you fluxlisters (nearly met carol recently) musicians? not to talk to as such but wouldn't mind playing with a few mainly guitar heroes and jazz pianists I'd have liked to have met Shel Silverstein around the time he was still recording his music beefheart in the trout mask years perhaps a boring list really think I'll stop now before my fellow fluxsters fall asleep ps haven't forgotten unfinished business project nor the definition of conceptual art stay tuned So who would I like to study/hang out with, first thoughts off the top of my head, like Patricia I have a lot of not possibles due to the whole life/death thing that we're all currently caught up in: I know what you mean g'night fluxy funsters
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not a boring list at all -- somehow each new name sets in motion peculiar images and possible scenes and other allusions to (momentarily) forgotten names and what ends up happening for me is that i don't feel quite so alone might be good/interesting for us each to view ourselves as possible "desirables" on list like this --- listen to what we sound like, how our own enthusiasms and spur-of- the moment mind jolts energies actions might be just as invigorating for others as theirs are for us... (in wariness of hero-worship) nbb
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hello all, well it's cold, windy and snowing and i'm thinking about who i would like to meet and hang out with them for a while. since i'm not much into projecting and am not fascinated with 'famous people' .. beuys lectures for sure. always found brian eno interesting yoko ono and not talk about john (that would be difficult) johnny depp because well just because richard feynman kazuo ishiguro that's all i can think of right now. cu, carol :) -- carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- Roger Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was talking to a well known UK children's poet a couple of weeks ago and he was very normal and a bit boring until he got up on stage and I thought - gosh! wow! amazing! ivor cutler? (no, wait...he'd be scottish?) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcel Broodthaers: (nothing short of hero worship there) he's someone I've heard of and seen a few articles about but I still don't quite know what to think of him. Is there a particularly good book you'd reccommend? That's my list for today... What about yours? not sure if I'd want to study with anyone, but here's some people I'd like to hang out with and see how they work... Anselm Kiefer Rirkrit Tiravanija Jasper Johns On Kawara and really, any artist who was really passionate about what they are doing and about art. Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
FLUXLIST: artist residencies
fun to think about this.i think what i'd like most would be to hang out in someone's (list following) studio for a day or a week, just watching --- with allowance to poke and pry into boxes and such for folks like this: joseph cornell kurt schwitters ray johnson (as with cornell, would want access to ALL those storage boxes!) dieter rot to watch anyone in process of making collage to watch folks working on daybooks/journals --- like allison knowles, burroughs, peterbeard if he were enormously less sexist would like to take long stroll along streets hunting for found treasures with wendy kramer, bob cobbing, david chirot, alex cook, anyone who loves the oddest scrap or gleam of possible material lying on the earth oh jeez, this could go on and on, once you begin to think along these lines.! nbb
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hi, speaking about schwitters. anyone familier with the schwitters collage mz412 and have a url to a jpg with it /h ps. or send it as an attatchement to me.ds kurt schwitters
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Hi Alex, The one book I have is, I think, a really good and comprehensive one with great examples of his work. It's "Marcel Broodthaers" Walker Art Center, Minneapolis, Rizzoli, New York. "Published on the occasion of the exhibition Marcel Broodthaers, organized by Marge Goldwater and Michael Compton for Walker Art Center, Minneapolis, in association with the Palais des Beaux-Arts, Brussels" Yep, I'd like to hang out with Rirkrit for sure - the guy can cook : ) Best, PK Alex Cook wrote: From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcel Broodthaers: (nothing short of hero worship there) he's someone I've heard of and seen a few articles about but I still don't quite know what to think of him. Is there a particularly good book you'd reccommend? That's my list for today... What about yours? not sure if I'd want to study with anyone, but here's some people I'd like to hang out with and see how they work... Anselm Kiefer Rirkrit Tiravanija Jasper Johns On Kawara and really, any artist who was really passionate about what they are doing and about art. Alex _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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I don't think this has exactly what you are looking for, but it's a lovely collection. http://www.collagegallery.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, speaking about schwitters. anyone familier with the schwitters collage mz412 and have a url to a jpg with it /h ps. or send it as an attatchement to me.ds kurt schwitters
FLUXLIST: artist residencies
To All: I've had a short backforth post with a fellow fluxlister about art/study - my first thought was that, as a visual artist, I couldn't think of anyone I'd like to study with. Got me to thinking - most of the artists I would invisage tutelage are no longer around: to wit; Marcel Broodthaers: (nothing short of hero worship there) for his ability to transmit his thoughts into the visual, for his dimension that never tires, in the visual, the other senses, and which will live on and inspire me. Imogen Cunningham: for her innovative and inspired vision. Tina Modotti: for her intellect, her romance and talent and beautiful imagery. Come to think of it, the living artists would be: Nigel Poor: for her vision that transcends what I see and makes me see again Rebecca Bollinger: I will never forget her digital imagery of children transmitted onto an entire gallery of cookies. Invoked all the senses - love, art, home, cookies! David Ireland: Capp Street Project. Impossible to describe. He is loved. He is the best. Glen Baxter: I'd study with him in an instant, just for the laughter. Hiroshi Sugimoto: H. (Make that a couple of hours of exposure for one take) Cluck Close: I'd just like to talk with him for a couple of days. He's courageous, and talented and much more. That's my list for today... What about yours? Best, PK
