Re: FLUXLIST: performance score/making transfers (very useful)
Can use acetone to do the transfers from xeroxes--so xerox images from newspaper etc and then transfer w/ acetone, a relatively benign solvent (much less deadly than some others). Also, since the advent of soy inks, the old solvent-transfer from newspaper thing doesn't work as well. This circumvents that. AK David Baptiste Chirot wrote: sit for some time (hours) at nearest street corner to where you live make a "traffic report" sit and watch sky (or lie down to do so--or stand--whatever best, or change positions)--again, for some time-- make "weather report note such reports not only may entail concrete particulars--but also memories, dreams, reflections engendered by the events observed dave baptiste chirot PS--thank you again Patricia and Allen for the beautiful job of presentation of the timepiece i had made-- it's funny--i think the colors look brighter on the web-- they also often come out very interestingly in color xerox (ones i have tired, not these ones) you can make interesting works by collecting color xerox from trash cans in the xerox copy places--and then you soak them, or parts you want to use, with some finger nail polish remover--then rub off the colors and things presented there--onto another sheet of paper this is another method of what is called making "transfers"--i first earned how to make the ones from newspaper b and w from an interview years and years and years ago with rbt rauschenberg--for these you use lighter fluid to soak the paper-- just be areful if you smoke! i do this and use spray paint a lot so am always on verge of blowing myself up as seem to lose track and light up--!
Re: FLUXLIST: performance score/making transfers (very useful)
dear ak: my gawd! many THANKS for your info! does indeed turn out BY CHANCE (?--"meant to be")-- do have huge lovely metal can of acetone here still "bran-nu" as never opened can't recall why have it may be like abt 85% or so of my work materials "found" "while in the line of duty"--i.e. walking abt or at a sale of art supplies figured some day of use --and NOW IS! have found though for my purposes--ie. love of the corroded, cracked, fragmented, "if it's broke don't fix it"-- (much like myself any more) that much like effects though "poor" (arte povera/art brut?) of the old method--makes interesting forms/traces of words/worlds so--shall "sally forth" (always wondered who she is) and try acetone! funny you look at it and is: ace tone sounds like a Fifties rock and roll singer but say it is "ass-ah-tone" "adventures with language" as old school books wd call it! again many many thanks! yet another thing of use in the world! (or my corner of it--) --dave baptiste On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, ann klefstad wrote: Can use acetone to do the transfers from xeroxes--so xerox images from newspaper etc and then transfer w/ acetone, a relatively benign solvent (much less deadly than some others). Also, since the advent of soy inks, the old solvent-transfer from newspaper thing doesn't work as well. This circumvents that. AK David Baptiste Chirot wrote: sit for some time (hours) at nearest street corner to where you live make a "traffic report" sit and watch sky (or lie down to do so--or stand--whatever best, or change positions)--again, for some time-- make "weather report note such reports not only may entail concrete particulars--but also memories, dreams, reflections engendered by the events observed dave baptiste chirot PS--thank you again Patricia and Allen for the beautiful job of presentation of the timepiece i had made-- it's funny--i think the colors look brighter on the web-- they also often come out very interestingly in color xerox (ones i have tired, not these ones) you can make interesting works by collecting color xerox from trash cans in the xerox copy places--and then you soak them, or parts you want to use, with some finger nail polish remover--then rub off the colors and things presented there--onto another sheet of paper this is another method of what is called making "transfers"--i first earned how to make the ones from newspaper b and w from an interview years and years and years ago with rbt rauschenberg--for these you use lighter fluid to soak the paper-- just be areful if you smoke! i do this and use spray paint a lot so am always on verge of blowing myself up as seem to lose track and light up--!
Re: FLUXLIST: performance score/making transfers (very useful)
Interesting, I viewed a televised special on the recent Rauchenberg exhibit and commmitted to memory the fact that they taped him making monoprints on wet watercolor paper from an inkjet print. It's in the P.K. memory but I have yet to try it. I've done the acetone method, but I have developed an aversion to chemicals, so, if I use chemicals for any type of process, I use them outdoors. Re the timepiece work - Dave, I was disappointed that the texture of your pieces was lost in the scan process, but I like the different dimension it brings through the loss of dimension, if that makes any sense. This digital/internet business has no end of visual fascination. Btw, I will send them back to you, honest. Best, PK David Baptiste Chirot wrote: sit for some time (hours) at nearest street corner to where you live make a "traffic report" sit and watch sky (or lie down to do so--or stand--whatever best, or change positions)--again, for some time-- make "weather report note such reports not only may entail concrete particulars--but also memories, dreams, reflections engendered by the events observed dave baptiste chirot PS--thank you again Patricia and Allen for the beautiful job of presentation of the timepiece i had made-- it's funny--i think the colors look brighter on the web-- they also often come out very interestingly in color xerox (ones i have tired, not these ones) you can make interesting works by collecting color xerox from trash cans in the xerox copy places--and then you soak them, or parts you want to use, with some finger nail polish remover--then rub off the colors and things presented there--onto another sheet of paper this is another method of what is called making "transfers"--i first earned how to make the ones from newspaper b and w from an interview years and years and years ago with rbt rauschenberg--for these you use lighter fluid to soak the paper-- just be areful if you smoke! i do this and use spray paint a lot so am always on verge of blowing myself up as seem to lose track and light up--!
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Henry Miller did 2/3 of this. See "Hieronymous Bosch and the Oranges of Big Sur." That would be, at least, items 2 and 3. Yet, still sounds eventful to me. One could always: 1. paint vodka 2. drink 50 coloured waters. 3. sell them for a minus sum dance round Carol Starr wrote: hi eryk, square dance 1. drink vodka 2. paint 50 watercolours 6x6" 3. give them all away happy sunday everning, c :) -- carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- pass pages that would bring tears to your eyes. And possibly other body parts as well. Such-as? And-so? Such as your small intestine. And so who the fuck cares? We publish a series of mystery novels in which the protagonist is a cat. Fluxism on Broadway. Ken is a Cat. Is Ken a cat? If so, what do we really mean by cat? What do we really mean by Ken? What are we really talking about when we're talking about is? What time is it REALLY. What do you care? What do I care? I don't.
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, meryl wrote: I work for a large publishing house (as a production editor). We publish crap. My, oh my, could I send you passages and pages from raw manuscript or 1st pass pages that would bring tears to your eyes. And possibly other body parts as well. Such-as? And-so? We publish a series of mystery novels in which the protagonist is a cat. Fluxism on Broadway. Ken is a Cat. /:b
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kinda like responding to emails six months later... what's better? /:b
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I work for a large publishing house (as a production editor). We publish crap. My, oh my, could I send you passages and pages from raw manuscript or 1st pass pages that would bring tears to your eyes. And possibly other body parts as well. We publish a series of mystery novels in which the protagonist is a cat. Mangled cliches are our stock in trade. -- i dream of books made of nothing but misquotes, maplapropsism, mangled cliches, errata,the most seemingly b alnd juxtaposd with the horrific--in short, a kind of National Enquirer piece of "illiterature"!
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Meryl, I am a young man trying to make a living as a writer. Please send me the mailing address of your publishing house. If all you publish is really crap, I might stand a chance. ~David Streever --- "meryl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I work for a large publishing house (as a production editor). We publish crap. My, oh my, could I send you passages and pages from raw manuscript or 1st pass pages that would bring tears to your eyes. And possibly other body parts as well. We publish a series of mystery novels in which the protagonist is a cat. Mangled cliches are our stock in trade. -- i dream of books made of nothing but misquotes, maplapropsism, mangled cliches, errata,the most seemingly b alnd juxtaposd with the horrific--in short, a kind of National Enquirer piece of "illiterature"! == "When the last human has died, trees shall cover the earth." "Man is the dream of the dolphin." _ Get premier, free, fast, 6Mb web-based email at --- http://www.nabou.com
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Yes, me too. We all need a publishing house that publishes only crap! How else would I make a living? -e. Narcissus In Paradys wrote: Meryl, I am a young man trying to make a living as a writer. Please send me the mailing address of your publishing house. If all you publish is really crap, I might stand a chance. ~David Streever --- "meryl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I work for a large publishing house (as a production editor). We publish crap. My, oh my, could I send you passages and pages from raw manuscript or 1st pass pages that would bring tears to your eyes. And possibly other body parts as well. We publish a series of mystery novels in which the protagonist is a cat. Mangled cliches are our stock in trade. -- i dream of books made of nothing but misquotes, maplapropsism, mangled cliches, errata,the most seemingly b alnd juxtaposd with the horrific--in short, a kind of National Enquirer piece of "illiterature"! == "When the last human has died, trees shall cover the earth." "Man is the dream of the dolphin." _ Get premier, free, fast, 6Mb web-based email at --- http://www.nabou.com
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Josh: an exellent idea! as you know, often books with "errata" made become collectors' items (same with records--the pl vereity--as worked in record store svene years and learned all kinds of obscyre lore along these lines--) i once placed pacards in large boodstor by the fiction saying: ALL WORKS HERE ALL FALSE AND WILL SHORTLY BE WITHDRAWN this caused no end of confusion in the bookstore! rmber when Grantigans's TROUT FISHING IN AMERICA used to be placed in nature/ports sections? and so many of the works of the great Paul Metalf, beng unclassifiable for many--wound up in the oddest places also-- when i fisrt got bitten by te bug for the obscue ad ut of the way--boks i knew must exist yet knew not where to find except by chance or word of moth of wonderful guidebooks like Henry Miller's THE BOOKS IN MY LIFE--used to imagine a section for the "unwonted/unwanted" boks i sought--srt of mass grouping of errata that had some how made it past unwitting publishers, sleeping cnsors and the so called critics-- the good part is that pehrpas this spurs one on to create such wrks of one's own "errata" or the "erratic" (put by mistake in with the "eoricat" section!) i dream of books made of nothing but misquotes, maplapropsism, mangled cliches, errata,the most seemingly b alnd juxtaposd with the horrific--in short, a kind of National Enquirer piece of "illiterature"! i think we shd begin eah in ur ways a mapaing for the dessimantion of errata-- by the introduction of such subtle shifts, on a mass and surreptious scale--many an odd chamnge may begin to occur in the reception of many a "serious" work . . . . --dave baptsite On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Josh Ronsen wrote: ERRATA SCORE Print spurious Errata notices and place them in books in a bookstore or library. -Josh Ronsen http://www.nd.org/jronsen --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Before you buy.
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Reminds me a bit of the REM video for "Stand." 1. Stand in the place where you live. 2. Now face North: Think about direction. 3. Wonder why you haven't before. 4. Stand in the place where you work. 5. Now face West. 6. Think about the place where you live. 7. Wonder why you haven't before. Not too direct a connection to the song but kinda. :) Don Boyd wrote: LAST DAY OF SUMMER PERFORMANCE SCORE by Don Boyd, FLUXUS WEST, 2000 1. Step outside at noon today, September 21, 2000, if you can. 2. Look North, up to the sky, take a deep breath and say, "It was a wonderful summer!" 3. Then turn and look East at the horizon, take a deep breath and say, "Welcome Fall!" 4. Turn and look South at the ground, take a deep breath and say, "This is a great day!" 5. Turn and face West, take a deep breath, look anywhere you want and say what you want. Tkae your time, performance is over.
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Actually, sounds like the invocation to the Four Quarters, or the Calling of the Elements. 1. Face the North. Call the Spirits of the North. 2. Face the West. Call the Spirits of the West. 3. Face the South. Call the Spirits of the South. 4. Face the East. Call the Spirits of the East. This form of ritual is ingrained in the subconcious of anyone from any culture- part of the cultural/genetic memory. It has many parallels in many cultures, and the above is only a simplified version. --- Eryk Salvaggio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminds me a bit of the REM video for "Stand." 1. Stand in the place where you live. 2. Now face North: Think about direction. 3. Wonder why you haven't before. 4. Stand in the place where you work. 5. Now face West. 6. Think about the place where you live. 7. Wonder why you haven't before. Not too direct a connection to the song but kinda. :) Don Boyd wrote: LAST DAY OF SUMMER PERFORMANCE SCORE by Don Boyd, FLUXUS WEST, 2000 1. Step outside at noon today, September 21, 2000, if you can. 2. Look North, up to the sky, take a deep breath and say, "It was a wonderful summer!" 3. Then turn and look East at the horizon, take a deep breath and say, "Welcome Fall!" 4. Turn and look South at the ground, take a deep breath and say, "This is a great day!" 5. Turn and face West, take a deep breath, look anywhere you want and say what you want. Tkae your time, performance is over. == "When the last human has died, trees shall cover the earth." "Man is the dream of the dolphin." _ Get premier, free, fast, 6Mb web-based email at --- http://www.nabou.com
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Ah, well- the REM version was catchier- and you could dance to it! :) -e. Narcissus In Paradys wrote: Actually, sounds like the invocation to the Four Quarters, or the Calling of the Elements. 1. Face the North. Call the Spirits of the North. 2. Face the West. Call the Spirits of the West. 3. Face the South. Call the Spirits of the South. 4. Face the East. Call the Spirits of the East. This form of ritual is ingrained in the subconcious of anyone from any culture- part of the cultural/genetic memory. It has many parallels in many cultures, and the above is only a simplified version. --- Eryk Salvaggio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminds me a bit of the REM video for "Stand." 1. Stand in the place where you live. 2. Now face North: Think about direction. 3. Wonder why you haven't before. 4. Stand in the place where you work. 5. Now face West. 6. Think about the place where you live. 7. Wonder why you haven't before. Not too direct a connection to the song but kinda. :) Don Boyd wrote: LAST DAY OF SUMMER PERFORMANCE SCORE by Don Boyd, FLUXUS WEST, 2000 1. Step outside at noon today, September 21, 2000, if you can. 2. Look North, up to the sky, take a deep breath and say, "It was a wonderful summer!" 3. Then turn and look East at the horizon, take a deep breath and say, "Welcome Fall!" 4. Turn and look South at the ground, take a deep breath and say, "This is a great day!" 5. Turn and face West, take a deep breath, look anywhere you want and say what you want. Tkae your time, performance is over.
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LOL, very true! I always did like the REM version :-) --- Eryk Salvaggio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, well- the REM version was catchier- and you could dance to it! :) -e. Narcissus In Paradys wrote: Actually, sounds like the invocation to the Four Quarters, or the Calling of the Elements. 1. Face the North. Call the Spirits of the North. 2. Face the West. Call the Spirits of the West. 3. Face the South. Call the Spirits of the South. 4. Face the East. Call the Spirits of the East. This form of ritual is ingrained in the subconcious of anyone from any culture- part of the cultural/genetic memory. It has many parallels in many cultures, and the above is only a simplified version. --- Eryk Salvaggio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminds me a bit of the REM video for "Stand." 1. Stand in the place where you live. 2. Now face North: Think about direction. 3. Wonder why you haven't before. 4. Stand in the place where you work. 5. Now face West. 6. Think about the place where you live. 7. Wonder why you haven't before. Not too direct a connection to the song but kinda. :) Don Boyd wrote: LAST DAY OF SUMMER PERFORMANCE SCORE by Don Boyd, FLUXUS WEST, 2000 1. Step outside at noon today, September 21, 2000, if you can. 2. Look North, up to the sky, take a deep breath and say, "It was a wonderful summer!" 3. Then turn and look East at the horizon, take a deep breath and say, "Welcome Fall!" 4. Turn and look South at the ground, take a deep breath and say, "This is a great day!" 5. Turn and face West, take a deep breath, look anywhere you want and say what you want. Tkae your time, performance is over. == "When the last human has died, trees shall cover the earth." "Man is the dream of the dolphin." _ Get premier, free, fast, 6Mb web-based email at --- http://www.nabou.com
