Re: less than 100% opaque svg graphic

2003-10-02 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I'm not a big help here, but I can confirm that no transparency support
is available for FOP 0.20.5. If I remember correctly Keiron Liddle
started transparency support in the PDF transcoder in HEAD (redesign).
Another reason for people to start helping with the redesign so it gets
finished more quickly. :-)

On 01.10.2003 22:37:55 Adam Shelley wrote:
 I'm am using svg's in pdf's created by fop and I was wondering if there was
 anyway to do less than 100% opaque graphics in the output pdf document.  I
 hit the archives and couldn't find any particular issue addressing this.


Jeremias Maerki


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less than 100% opaque svg graphic

2003-10-01 Thread Adam Shelley
Hello all,

I'm am using svg's in pdf's created by fop and I was wondering if there was
anyway to do less than 100% opaque graphics in the output pdf document.  I
hit the archives and couldn't find any particular issue addressing this.

Any input would be appreciated.

-Adam


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Re: less than 100% opaque svg graphic

2003-10-01 Thread Clay Leeds
Adam Shelley wrote:
I'm am using svg's in pdf's created by fop and I was wondering if there was
anyway to do less than 100% opaque graphics in the output pdf document.  I
hit the archives and couldn't find any particular issue addressing this.
I suspect it is not possible to do it with FOP. However, it should be 
possible using a combination of iText and a little bit of advanced PDF 
spec knowledge. This page on the FOP web site has links to everything 
you probably will need:

http://xml.apache.org/fop/resources.html
We'd appreciate learning from your experiences, including what works and 
doesn't work! Please report back and let us know what you've found.

Web Maestro Clay
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RE: less than 100% opaque svg graphic

2003-10-01 Thread Adam Shelley
Hello,

Thanks for the confirmation.  I will most likely not be doing development in
this area to solve the problem cause its going to cause too much overhead
having to parse the source xml document(=2MB) multiple times and doing
multiple translations on it.  Is there a way to import an svg into fop
produced pdf and have batik render it into a .tiff or .jpg with the opacity
looking correctly instead of translating it to pdf 2D vectors?

The only reason I want to modify this value is because I'm going to be
assigning barcharts specific colours and I would like to automagically have
the previous year's figures a slightly modified version of the colour used
to display the current year's statistics.  I was thinking about modifying
the opacity to a lesser value to dim the colour but I'm sure there are other
ways to do this.  I could probably calculate the hex value appropriately and
do this.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

-Adam

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Adam Shelley wrote:
 I'm am using svg's in pdf's created by fop and I was wondering if there
was
 anyway to do less than 100% opaque graphics in the output pdf document.  I
 hit the archives and couldn't find any particular issue addressing this.

I suspect it is not possible to do it with FOP. However, it should be
possible using a combination of iText and a little bit of advanced PDF
spec knowledge. This page on the FOP web site has links to everything
you probably will need:

http://xml.apache.org/fop/resources.html

We'd appreciate learning from your experiences, including what works and
doesn't work! Please report back and let us know what you've found.

Web Maestro Clay


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Re: less than 100% opaque svg graphic

2003-10-01 Thread Clay Leeds
My reply was not meant as any sort of confirmation per se. By no means 
do I consider myself an authority on FOP. My experience is limited to 
reading this list, and having used FOP since shortly after fop-0.20.4 
was released (about a year  a half or so).

Although I haven't used iText myself (I haven't had the need to *yet* 
;-p),  I don't believe it parses XML. Instead, I believe it goes through 
PDF documents. I suspect you would complete your PDF transformation as 
normal using FOP, and then parse the PDF to modify your chart graphics.

BTW, (somewhat OT) having used the Excel portion of Microsoft Office v.X 
for Mac, I can attest that it does a beautiful job of creating the kind 
of charting transparency you describe. I believe they are exportable as 
JPG, TIFF or PDF documents as well. If this would help, then you might 
be able to use iText or some PDF concatenator (Combine PDF on Mac OS X) 
to insert it into your PDF file.

Hope this helps!
Web Maestro Clay
Adam Shelley wrote:
Hello,
Thanks for the confirmation.  I will most likely not be doing development in
this area to solve the problem cause its going to cause too much overhead
having to parse the source xml document(=2MB) multiple times and doing
multiple translations on it.  Is there a way to import an svg into fop
produced pdf and have batik render it into a .tiff or .jpg with the opacity
looking correctly instead of translating it to pdf 2D vectors?
The only reason I want to modify this value is because I'm going to be
assigning barcharts specific colours and I would like to automagically have
the previous year's figures a slightly modified version of the colour used
to display the current year's statistics.  I was thinking about modifying
the opacity to a lesser value to dim the colour but I'm sure there are other
ways to do this.  I could probably calculate the hex value appropriately and
do this.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
-Adam
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From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:50 PM
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Subject: Re: less than 100% opaque svg graphic
Adam Shelley wrote:
I'm am using svg's in pdf's created by fop and I was wondering if there
was
anyway to do less than 100% opaque graphics in the output pdf document.  I
hit the archives and couldn't find any particular issue addressing this.

I suspect it is not possible to do it with FOP. However, it should be
possible using a combination of iText and a little bit of advanced PDF
spec knowledge. This page on the FOP web site has links to everything
you probably will need:
http://xml.apache.org/fop/resources.html
We'd appreciate learning from your experiences, including what works and
doesn't work! Please report back and let us know what you've found.
Web Maestro Clay

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RE: less than 100% opaque svg graphic

2003-10-01 Thread Adam Shelley
Heh,

I've been using FOP since 0.20.4 as well but not enough to become an expert.
I am using iText but just to implement security on the document, but nothing
else.

This is the flow of my program:

xml + xsl -(http)- fop+itext servlet -(http)- pdf

the xml has all of the information for creating data grids as well as
charting information.  svg seems like a great way to make charts, its just a
matter of coming up with some good xsl and xml inputs to generate them how
you want.  I'd like this to be a 100% xml-output_document solution since
thats how everything works so far.  I'd also never do anything using an
office SDK again since it will probably(my guess) get security patched out
of existance.

I have full control over the input and output document so I think i'll just
have to somehow modify the colour value programmatically.
Thanks again,

-Adam

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My reply was not meant as any sort of confirmation per se. By no means
do I consider myself an authority on FOP. My experience is limited to
reading this list, and having used FOP since shortly after fop-0.20.4
was released (about a year  a half or so).

Although I haven't used iText myself (I haven't had the need to *yet*
;-p),  I don't believe it parses XML. Instead, I believe it goes through
PDF documents. I suspect you would complete your PDF transformation as
normal using FOP, and then parse the PDF to modify your chart graphics.

BTW, (somewhat OT) having used the Excel portion of Microsoft Office v.X
for Mac, I can attest that it does a beautiful job of creating the kind
of charting transparency you describe. I believe they are exportable as
JPG, TIFF or PDF documents as well. If this would help, then you might
be able to use iText or some PDF concatenator (Combine PDF on Mac OS X)
to insert it into your PDF file.

Hope this helps!

Web Maestro Clay



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