Re: [fossil-users] CRLF conversion on windows

[Louis Hoefler]

I never had problems with LF line endings in my batch files/source 
files/whatever

I am on windows 7 with vs2010.

The only thing whitch troubles me is the linux shell interpreter who can 
not live with CR-LF line endings and renames dirs to dir^M.


For god sake let windows out of this, becouse it (currently) works 
better with different line endings than linux (currently) does. As you see.

I'm sure it was different in the 80's and 90's.

Back to the topic:
Converting files between different OS is an unnecessary feature to me.
You can convert more accurate if you write your own scripts to do that.
That's like deleting unneeded files out of directories.
I wrote a simple tcl script and qt programm to do that:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dircln/files/

1. cleandir
2. dos2unix
3. fossil add *
4. fossil commit
5. dos2unix

If someone does not want to use the 5 commands all the time, wrap it 
into a shell script.


PS:
Converting files to different line endings is already available on most 
systems. Even vs2010 can do it, and it's plugin and macro system is 
(almost) one of the best.


Greetings, Louis

Am 07.04.2011 18:55, schrieb Richard Hipp:



On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Ramon Ribó > wrote:


MacOSX is using UNIX line ending since more than 10 years-ago.

In modern computers, there are two options:

Unix/MacOSX: LF


Also, Solaris, AIX, HPUX, NetBSD, OpenBSD, QNX, etc.

Windows: CR-LF


The odd man out.


I would not see it as a problem that fossil changed line-endings if it
was disabled by default and it could be enabled with something similar
to:

fossil setting ascii-glob "*.c,*.h"

Another thing that would be a bonus for cross-platform development
would be to change the encoding of the text files. In modern Linux it
is utf-8. And in modern Windows, it is a code page that depends on the
country but it is different from utf-8


Notice how everybody else uses utf8 for everything.  Only on windows 
do we have issues with locale-dependent code pages.


There are countless operating systems available today, each with is 
own peccadillos.  So why is it always windows that gives trouble?  The 
more one tries to make code cross-platform, the more one realizes that 
windows is the problem child.



I understand that it is more reasonable to implement in a SCM only the
line-ending change, but I wanted to write the encoding problem just
for the record.


Regards

 RR




2011/4/7 mailto:sky5w...@gmail.com>>:
> I would be immensely confused if my SCM was modifying the
contents of
> my source code and/or support documents.
> Given that MacOS has yet another EOL = [CR], it is better for
your own
> code to manage distribution effects.
> Just my opinion.
>
> -Steve
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Martin Gagnon mailto:eme...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I know this new feature. But I'm really talking about
converting the line ending, for cross platform development issue.
>>
>> --
>> Martin
>>
>> Le 2011-04-07 à 10:43, Clark Christensen mailto:cdcmi...@yahoo.com>> a écrit :
>>
>>> I'm using fossil version [1d93222627] 2011-03-01 19:04:32 UTC
>>>
>>> With this version, Fossil warns about CRLF line ends on
commit, and allows me to commit anyway, or abort and fix.
>>>
>>> This is a good option for me.  Some files are OK with CRLFs
and others are not.  I like being able to choose.
>>>
>>>  -Clark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From:Martin Gagnon mailto:eme...@gmail.com>>
>>> To:Fossil Users Mailing List
mailto:fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org>>
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent:Thursday, April 7, 2011 4:11 AM
>>> Subject:[fossil-users] CRLF conversion on windows
>>>
>>> Hi, Is there any plan for CRLF conversion under windows?
>>>
>>> This would be very usefull for cross platform projects. Especially
>>> when using Visual Studio on the Windows side, which silently
add CRLF
>>> line ending on a LF only file which give you a mixed line
ending file
>>> (got bunch of ^M when editing files with Vim after).
>>>
>>> it could convert text file from CR-LF to LF when committing
and the
>>> oposite on checkout, so this would always keep LF line ending on
>>> repository and the local checkout on windows would have CR-LF line
>>> ending text file. Just like does Git and CVSNT (using Tortoise
CVS at
>>> least).
>>>
>>> Of course this might be dangerous for data corruption when
some binary
>>> file are flag as text file, but this kind of feature would be
off by
>>> default for sure.
>>>
>>> --
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[fossil-users] Moving multiple files

[Louis Hoefler]

Hello everyone,
can fossil recognize moved files automatically?

Thank you, Louis
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Re: [fossil-users] SSH status

[Louis Hoefler]

I meant ssl not ssh. Sorry.

Am 16.02.2011 21:50, schrieb Louis Hoefler:

You could also setup a vpn service which uses ssh/other encryption.
Would be a bit exaggerated but it is secure.

Greetings, Louis

Am 16.02.2011 18:03, schrieb Chad Perrin:

I'm new to this list.  Be gentle.

I've been rummaging through the list archives, and sifting through the
Web documentation, but I am still not clear on the status of using SSH to
encrypt connections for push/pull and other operations using Fossil.  Is
it stable?  Does it require special configuration?  Is there anything
about it in the Web docs or in any documentation that comes with it?  Is
it not discussed outside of the mailing list?

Any help in answering these (and related) questions would be appreciated.



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Re: [fossil-users] SSH status

[Louis Hoefler]

You could also setup a vpn service which uses ssh/other encryption.
Would be a bit exaggerated but it is secure.

Greetings, Louis

Am 16.02.2011 18:03, schrieb Chad Perrin:

I'm new to this list.  Be gentle.

I've been rummaging through the list archives, and sifting through the
Web documentation, but I am still not clear on the status of using SSH to
encrypt connections for push/pull and other operations using Fossil.  Is
it stable?  Does it require special configuration?  Is there anything
about it in the Web docs or in any documentation that comes with it?  Is
it not discussed outside of the mailing list?

Any help in answering these (and related) questions would be appreciated.



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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil file deletion

[Louis Hoefler]

Yes, I overwrite the "fossil" file, I do not sync it.
I somehow just thought that this could cause problems.

However, there are a few
reasons, which made me try it this way:
It is really circular to boot the computer, connect
it to the network, start the fossil server just for doing
a sync (Then turning it of again...).

The next thing is, I maintain more than 5 projects
with fossil now.
There are two ways to sync them. The first one
is to write a script which holds a list of available fossils
and syncs all of them, or you type the sync command
5 times (and then you forgot one).
With my approach, I was able to put all
fossils into a dir and ftpget them, but that did not
solve my network boot up problem.

So I tried it with a thumb drive and exchanged
the fossil files between the two computers with it.

I think I use your method now.

Is it also possible to sync between two local fossil
databases, without a network connection?

I also noticed that fossil generates a unique project-id
and a unique server-id for each newly generated
fossil file. It would be great have a command which
regenerates this ids. So one could simply
copy a original fossil and regenerate it's ids,
initial username and generate a new random password.
Additionally, this command should have a option
to set all the ids and passwords entries to empty values.
This newly prepared fossil is then saved as a copy.
Fossil then generates ids and sets random passwords
on the next time the prepared fossil is opened.

This is usefull for people who want to upload the fossil
file itselve, to a public webspace for example.

Greetings, Louis

Am 16.02.2011 16:54, schrieb Williams, Brian:
> I have a question for you:
> When you say you "copy" the repo, are you file coping or doing a fossil
> clone?
> Again, when you say you "overwrite" the repo on Computer 1, are
> overwriting the file or doing a sync?
>
> If you are really overwriting the repositories then I can well expect
> that there are problems.
>
> I have a similar setup, but I maintain a fossil repo on a thumb drive;
> when I get home, I do a sync with the repo on my home machine and I'm up
> to date. I update the workspace and I'm ready to work.
>
> Fossil is an extremely powerful and flexible tool, but it does have a
> few rules; one of those is to associate a check out with one (and only
> one) repository.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: fossil-users-boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org
> [mailto:fossil-users-boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org] On Behalf Of Louis
> Hoefler
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:19 AM
> To: fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org
> Subject: [fossil-users] Fossil file deletion
>
> Following szenario:
>
> I have two computers.
>
> On computer 1, I create a fossil with some work.
>
> Now I commit my work and copy the fossil to computer 2.
> I rename files on computer 2, do some other work, and commit.
>
> I make some filechanges on computer 1, and commit.
> Now I have two fossils who are out of sync.
>
> I come back home and overwrite the fossil from computer
> 1 with the one from computer 2 (where I renamed files).
>
> Now, after I do a fossil update, the (modified) files
> on computer 1 are deleted and fossil stops the update
> process, becouse it can not find the newly renamed files.
>
> I do not really understand the logic behind this error but,
> if this isnt the case: Files should be deleted only,
> if they have not changed (in case of a rename they should
> not be deleted if the last known version in fossil differs
> from the current file on disk).
>
> Greetings, Louis
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[fossil-users] Fossil file deletion

[Louis Hoefler]

Following szenario:

I have two computers.

On computer 1, I create a fossil with some work.

Now I commit my work and copy the fossil to computer 2.
I rename files on computer 2, do some other work, and commit.

I make some filechanges on computer 1, and commit.
Now I have two fossils who are out of sync.

I come back home and overwrite the fossil from computer
1 with the one from computer 2 (where I renamed files).

Now, after I do a fossil update, the (modified) files
on computer 1 are deleted and fossil stops the update
process, becouse it can not find the newly renamed files.

I do not really understand the logic behind this error but,
if this isnt the case: Files should be deleted only,
if they have not changed (in case of a rename they should
not be deleted if the last known version in fossil differs
from the current file on disk).

Greetings, Louis
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil http plugin Support

[Louis Hoefler]

Exaclty.
Or like the latex cgi application who renders formulas to pictures.

Am 04.02.2011 20:25, schrieb Stephen De Gabrielle:
> Do you mean like wiki-text into mathml ?
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2011, Louis Hoefler  wrote:
>> Hello everyone.
>> I am really impressed by fossil.
>> I currently like it that much,
>> I even organize my school and work stuff with it.
>>
>> Now my question:
>> Has someone ever tried to implement some sort of
>> plugin interface which allows to extend the http server?
>> Like a generator for mathematical formula pictures and so on.
>>
>> Thank you, Louis
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[fossil-users] Fossil http plugin Support

[Louis Hoefler]

Hello everyone.
I am really impressed by fossil.
I currently like it that much,
I even organize my school and work stuff with it.

Now my question:
Has someone ever tried to implement some sort of
plugin interface which allows to extend the http server?
Like a generator for mathematical formula pictures and so on.

Thank you, Louis
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