[Foundation-l] Fwd: Judd Bagley presentation on Wikipedia

2009-02-21 Thread Foundation-l list admin
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From: Charles Ainsworth cl...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:04 AM
Subject: Judd Bagley presentation on Wikipedia
To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org


If you aren't familiar with the history behind this episode, Judd
Bagley was banned from en.Wikipedia for trying to out a financial
journalist who had created several user accounts in Wikipedia to
promote naked short selling.  Partly as a result of his experience,
Bagley has created a presentation which he gave recently to a class of
business students at the University of Texas.  The presentation is
here - http://antisocialmedia.net/lecture1/player.html.

The first part of the presentation concerns the efforts by several
individuals in the finance industry to manipulate the Internet to
promote naked short selling (NSS).  Starting on slide 52, Bagley
describes an attempt by one of the NSS proponents to use Wikipedia as
a promotional tool for himself as well as for NSS.  Bagley then
describes what happened when he attempted to intervene.

I believe that personally hearing Bagley's experiences and lessons
learned would be of benefit for the WMF.  I suggest that the WMF
consider inviting Bagley to give his presentation to WMF's staff and
boardmembers.  I believe that Bagley's contact information is
available on his website- http://antisocialmedia.net/.

Charles Ainsworth (Cla68 on en.Wikipedia)








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Re: [Foundation-l] Flagged Revisions, Report on german WP

2009-02-21 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Listening to Wikipedia Weekly (71) and reading the discussions on en.WP and
nl.WP about implementation, it strucks me how inaccurate the discussions
are. I do not know what is the reason for it, a poor presentation in the
first place, a confusing terminology, hidden ideological motives... It is
difficult to discuss something when people claim that it would take ages
until an article is sighted, that people are prevented from creating
articles, talk about the sighting of autoconfirmed people (has nothing to
do with that). With my mentees in de.WP I never experienced that someone
complained about the sighting process, the newbies took it as something
normal and asked me friendly to do the sighting (often it was already done
by someone else).
Of course, if someone creates an article about a less interesting subject,
it can take some days or even one, two weeks until sighting, but I don't see
the tragic of that.
Kind regards
Ziko



2009/2/19 P. Birken pbir...@gmail.com

 Creation of new articles by IPs was never disabled on de-WP. However,
 the number of articles coming is has been steady for years now with
 about 1.500, of which around 1.000 are speedy deleted, so an overall
 net growth of slightly less than 500 per day.

 Otherwise, we are were indeed able to come down to a maximal waiting
 time of 5 days and will try to keep it there or even lower.

 Best,

 Philipp

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