[Foundation-l] No default codec for video and audio in HTML5

2009-07-02 Thread Hay (Husky)
http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html

Unfortunately OGG Theora didn't make it as the default codec for the
HTML5 video element in the spec. Until one of the two major formats
(Theora and H264) is clearly the major format the HTML5 spec will not
specify a default codec for the video element.

-- Hay

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[Foundation-l] Job Opening at WMF - Project Manager

2009-07-02 Thread Jennifer Riggs
The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking a term-limited (one year) full-time 
Project Manager for its new Bookshelf Project (text below). Feel free 
to share.

Link to WMF jobs: 
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/Project_Manager_Bookshelf


Job Title: Project Manager

Employment Duration: August 2009 to September 2010.

Reports to: Head of Public Outreach

About the “Bookshelf Project”

In 2009–2010, the Wikimedia Foundation will be developing a slate of 
basic educational materials –print, online and video– to attract new 
authors and editors to Wikipedia. The collective set of these resources 
is internally being called “The Bookshelf.”

As a collaborative project, Wikipedia's success is based on the steady 
contributions of a global volunteer community of active contributors. 
The more people share their knowledge with others, the better and more 
diverse Wikipedia's content gets. We believe that raising and broadening 
participation is one of the keys to improve Wikipedia's overall quality 
and to eliminate cultural perspective gaps.

Currently, there are limited resources to attract new contributors and 
to teach them how to get involved. Most of them lack consistency and are 
often out of date. There are therefore still many basic educational 
resources that need to be developed. These materials will teach people 
about Wikipedia and how to edit Wikipedia; provide teachers with lesson 
plans (to use Wikipedia in the classroom); provide volunteers and local 
Wikimedia chapters with training resources to do their own outreach; and 
to enable people to be skillful and responsible creators and producers 
of encyclopedic content.

Job Summary

The Project Manager is responsible for successfully executing the 
Bookshelf project: for ensuring high quality outputs are developed on 
time and inside the project budget. The Project Manager will need a 
prior demonstrated experience in managing a complex print and media 
project, excellent communications skills, and a passion for doing 
high-quality work. Part of this job will include actively moderating 
volunteer and external expert discussions to help them be focused and 
productive.

Responsibilities

 * Create and get sign-off for the project plan, including 
review-and-refine cycles
 * Recruit and manage the dedicated project team and identify 
suitable outside contractors for video production
 * Plan and execute internal project communication (encompassing the 
project team, senior management, other departments, external expert 
groups, outside contractors and community stakeholders)
 * Keep the project on track: on time and on budget
 * Ensure all deliverables are of appropriate quality level, and 
success measures are met or exceeded

Required Qualifications

 * 5+ years of project management experience
 * Ability to work in a highly collaborative, consensus-oriented, 
highly-diverse environment
 * Ability to work effectively within Wikimedia's values and 
mission. Must be emotionally committed to free knowledge and willing to 
attune oneself to the larger Wikimedia community's norms and expectations
 * Passion for doing high-quality work
 * Ability to work effectively with graphic designers, writers, and 
outside contractors to ensure deadlines are met
 * Experience prioritizing and creating accountability towards 
critical milestones and deadlines
 * Ability to assess and report project status, and escalating risks 
to senior management
 * Excellent oral and written communication skills, with the ability 
to interpret and translate information to teams and individuals and to 
report effectively to senior management

Preferred Qualifications

 * Experience in education
 * Experience with non-profit
 * Prior demonstrated experience working in print and media production
 * Experience working with translations and/or international clientele

Salary

The salary is in the range of $74,000 to $85,000, commensurate with 
experience. Generous benefits are included.

About the Wikimedia Foundation

The Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. is a US-registered 501(c)(3) 
tax-deductible non-profit charity dedicated to encouraging the growth, 
development and distribution of free, multilingual content, and to 
providing the full content of wiki-based projects to the public free of 
charge. The Wikimedia Foundation operates some of the largest 
collaboratively-edited reference projects in the world, including 
Wikipedia, one of the world's 10 most visited websites, Wiktionary, 
Wikibooks, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikinews and the Wikimedia Commons 
media repository. The organization has received numerous honors for its 
work, among them the Webby Award, the Prix Ars Electronica Golden Nica, 
the Japan Advertisers Association's Web Creation Award and the World 
Technology Award in Communications Technology.

The Wikimedia Foundation was created in 2003 to manage the operation of 
Wikipedia and its 

[Foundation-l] EN Wikizine - Year: 2009 Week: 27 Number: 110

2009-07-02 Thread EN Wikizine
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Year: 2009  Week: 27  Number: 110

**

An independent internal news bulletin
for the members of the Wikimedia community

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=== Technical news ===

[Michael Jackson Kills WP] - Michael Jackson, the King of Pop, died  
this week and nearly took Wikipedia down with him (as well as many  
other websites).  Wikimedia sites were unresponsive for a whole due to  
the large number of page hits.  The Michael Jackson article got nearly  
6 *million* hits on June 26, more than the Main Page.
In the evening of the 2th July (UTC) WikipediaCo was virtually down  
because of power outage of the European servers. The remaining servers  
choked on the additional traffic routed to them.
http://stats.grok.se/en/200906/Michael_Jackson -- page hit statistics
http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/06/current-events/ -- techblog  
explanation of issues
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/News_of_Michael_Jackson's_death_overloads_Internet_sites_and_sparks_hoaxes
 -- wikinews  
article
http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/07/power-outage-in-wikimedias-european-servers/
 -- wiki  
down

[Usability] - the Usability team has released its first set of  
usability improvement (the acai release) for testing.  As of press  
time, the new vector skin has been made available on all wikis for  
users who select it from their preferences, please help test the new  
features!
http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/06/first-usability-release-is-coming-up-soon/
 -- blog  
post
http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Releases#Acai -- acai release  
description

[Usability BIS] - one aspect is already live by default; the new  
design of the search results. Just use the internal search and see.
http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Designs#Search_Results

=== Request for help ===

[Fundraising 2009] - the Wikimedia Foundation is preparing for its  
next fundraiser and would like feedback from the community on some of  
the pages it has developed so far.  In addition to the creation of a  
new survey that they would like comments on, the Foundation is also  
trying to enhance the visibility of the donate button. The new buttons  
will be placed on the skin and will be viewable on every page. There  
are also several design proposals that need community input!
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2009/06/25/would-you-press-this-button/ --  
blog post about it
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2009/Donation_buttons_upgrade --  
buttons
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2009/Survey -- survey

=== Foundation ===

[Licensing] - The licensing update changes have now been rolled out  
to all languages and projects, with the new license being featured in  
the footer and new interface items to translate for your wiki.
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2009/06/30/licensing-update-rolled-out-in-all-wikimedia-wikis/
 -- blog  
post
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/translators-l/2009-June/000959.html --  
translation steps
http://tinyurl.com/LU-interface-trans -- betawiki trans interface

[Board election] - Once again an election for the board of trustees of  
the Wikimedia Foundation is coming up. It is for 3 seats this time.  
But before there can be elections there must be someone to vote for.  
Submissions of candidacy are open between 6th and 20th July.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009

[New grant: Commons] - the Wikimedia Foundation was just awarded a  
US$300,000 grant that will research problems with and design new  
tools/fix current tools for uploading files to the global Wikimedia  
image repository, the Wikimedia Commons.
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2009/07/02/ford-foundation-awards-300k-grant-for-wikimedia-commons/
 -- blog  
post
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimedia_Ford_Foundation_Grant_July_2009
 -- press  
release
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:WMF_Ford_Multimedia_Participation_Project.pdf
 -- full grant  
proposal

[Job: Bookshelf] - as a further development from the Scribus  
operator volunteer position noted in Wikizine a few months ago, a new  
job opening has been posted for project manager of the Bookshelf  
project.  The Bookshelf project strives to develop a slate of basic  
educational materials (print, online and video) to attract new authors  
and editors to Wikipedia.
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings/Project_Manager_Bookshelf --  
job opening
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Public_outreach/Get_involved --  
volunteer position, scribus operator

=== Community ===

[David Rohde] - it turns out that Wikipedia, along with tons of other  
media outlets, kept the kidnapping of journalist David Rohde out of  
its article on him.  This has caused a few 

Re: [Foundation-l] No default codec for video and audio in HTML5

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/7/3 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
 H264 already plays in, IIRC, 98% of browsers through flash.

Flash isn't generally available out of the box, though, is it?

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Re: [Foundation-l] No default codec for video and audio in HTML5

2009-07-02 Thread Hay (Husky)
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Flash isn't generally available out of the box, though, is it?

In theory, no. In practice, yes. Adobe claims around 99% of all web
users to have Flash installed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_flash#Installed_user_base

-- Hay

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Re: [Foundation-l] No default codec for video and audio in HTML5

2009-07-02 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Hay (Husky) hus...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Flash isn't generally available out of the box, though, is it?

 In theory, no. In practice, yes. Adobe claims around 99% of all web
 users to have Flash installed.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_flash#Installed_user_base

 -- Hay


I think you have to have Flash 9 to get H264.

It's a shame they couldn't get all vendors to agree to ship both ogg and
h264 codecs.
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Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-02 Thread John at Darkstar
Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
would be

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/;

That is 96 chars, with spaces, of 140 bytes available in a SMS. For some
languages the attribution will take more than one message. Ooops...

John

John at Darkstar wrote:
 It seems like the attribution scheme chosen does not support small
 interactive devices and systems very Well. Are there anyone who have
 given this any thoughts?
 
 The problem is basically as the chunk of information shrinks the
 attribution scheme will be more and more of a problem. With the current
 scheme the paper leaflet -problem are solved, still what do we do for
 cell phones and similar devices? The same problem also arise for
 solutions where excerpts from articles are used as tooltips in maps. I
 guess there are a lot of other examples.
 
 I would like a fourth point in the text that says something like
 attribution after good practice for devices and systems where the
 previous isn't possible.
 
 The current text reads: Attribution: To re-distribute a text page in any
 form, provide credit to the authors either by including a) a hyperlink
 (where possible) or URL to the page or pages you are re-using, b) a
 hyperlink (where possible) or URL to an alternative, stable online copy
 which is freely accessible, which conforms with the license, and which
 provides credit to the authors in a manner equivalent to the credit
 given on this website, or c) a list of all authors.
 
 John
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-02 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no wrote:

 Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
 would be
 
 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/;

 That is 96 chars, with spaces, of 140 bytes available in a SMS. For some
 languages the attribution will take more than one message. Ooops...

 John


You just need to provide a url to the article. Type
wikipedia.org/articleinto your address bar and wait 5 seconds.
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Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-02 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:


 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no wrote:

 Minimum attribution of «Terms of Use» from Wikimdia Foundations site
 would be
 
 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/;

 That is 96 chars, with spaces, of 140 bytes available in a SMS. For some
 languages the attribution will take more than one message. Ooops...

 John


 You just need to provide a url to the article. Type wikipedia.org/articleinto 
 your address bar and wait 5 seconds.


I actually was not aware that the terms now ask you to link not only to the
article, but to the license as well. That is a burden.
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Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-02 Thread Robert Rohde
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
 I actually was not aware that the terms now ask you to link not only to the
 article, but to the license as well. That is a burden.

Linking to the license (or providing it's actual text) is an explicit
requirement of CC-BY-SA.

-Robert Rohde

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Re: [Foundation-l] No default codec for video and audio in HTML5

2009-07-02 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
 It's a shame they couldn't get all vendors to agree to ship both ogg and
 h264 codecs.

No, it's not.  H.264 is patented and you need to pay licensing fees to
use it.  It's not an open standard and should not be used on the web
if it's at all avoidable.  It's possible Mozilla couldn't even legally
ship it, at least if they continue to distribute under the GPL.
(Maybe if they distributed only as LGPL/MPL they could avoid any
issues by making the H.264 part BSD-licensed or something.)

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Re: [Foundation-l] No default codec for video and audio in HTML5

2009-07-02 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Aryeh Gregor
simetrical+wikil...@gmail.comsimetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
  It's a shame they couldn't get all vendors to agree to ship both ogg and
  h264 codecs.

 No, it's not.  H.264 is patented and you need to pay licensing fees to
 use it.  It's not an open standard and should not be used on the web
 if it's at all avoidable.  It's possible Mozilla couldn't even legally
 ship it, at least if they continue to distribute under the GPL.
 (Maybe if they distributed only as LGPL/MPL they could avoid any
 issues by making the H.264 part BSD-licensed or something.)


A compromise is a win-win. In the absence of a compromise its a lose-lose.
Except that H264 wins since almost all of us already support it.
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Re: [Foundation-l] No default codec for video and audio in HTML5

2009-07-02 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
 A compromise is a win-win.

Compromising is not a good idea per se.  It's only a good idea if it
advances your goals more than refusing to compromises.  Some
compromises are bad and should not be accepted.  If you put enough
importance on open standards, a fragmented web where authors need to
provide both H.264 and Theora to get optimal functionality is *better*
than one where everyone can just provide H.264 and ignores Theora.  In
the first case, Theora will improve and become well-known, and maybe
stand a chance of eventually winning the format war.  In the second,
Theora has lost, permanently.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-02 Thread Jennifer Riggs

 
 --
 
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 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:09:00 +0100
 From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the
   community   consensus?
 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
   foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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 2009/7/2 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
 As the projects have grown and as they have become more centrally managed in
 a top down fashion it has become increasingly difficult for ideas to
 percolate from the bottom up.

I'm curious. In your perspective who is doing the central management 
that makes it difficult for ideas to percolate up? WMF, Jimmy, Board, 
select administrators/highly involved community members? In your 
opinion, is there an infrastructure barrier or a personalities one?

jriggs

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Re: [Foundation-l] No default codec for video and audio in HTML5

2009-07-02 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/3 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:

 A compromise is a win-win. In the absence of a compromise its a lose-lose.
 Except that H264 wins since almost all of us already support it.


Relying on something rendered radioactive by the software patents
attached to it is not a win.

It would be lovely if H.264 wasn't, legally speaking, toxic waste.
However, it is.


- d.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-02 Thread Brian
Sorry, where I said AbuseFilter I meant to say FlaggedRevisions. I'm not
sure on how AbuseFilter came to be agreed on.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Jennifer Riggs jri...@wikimedia.orgwrote:


 I'm curious. In your perspective who is doing the central management
 that makes it difficult for ideas to percolate up? WMF, Jimmy, Board,
 select administrators/highly involved community members? In your
 opinion, is there an infrastructure barrier or a personalities one?

 jriggs


 It's an infrastructure, policy and outreach issue. I assume that every
 single person has the very best for the projects in mind and is doing it for
 the right reasons.

 That said, I see the definition of community being interpreted very
 narrowly. I liked what I saw with AbuseFilter but that was a singular case.
 Filtering edits is almost on the same level as showing advertisements. In
 these rare cases any change you try to make will quickly make its way
 through the community because many people will be outraged. There are a lot
 of other situations that don't propagate as well, not because they aren't
 very important, but because people just don't know about them.

 I really like the ParserFunctions example. Enabled with hardly any
 discussion and now used 500,000 times on the English Wikipedia. It had a
 major effect on Wikipedia that made it much harder to use. And now we are
 stuck in a programming mindset and we all assume that we all agreed to come
 here. It just isn't the case. You won't be able to find where that agreement
 happened.


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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-02 Thread Robert Rohde
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
snip
 I really like the ParserFunctions example. Enabled with hardly any
 discussion and now used 500,000 times on the English Wikipedia. It had a
 major effect on Wikipedia that made it much harder to use. And now we are
 stuck in a programming mindset and we all assume that we all agreed to come
 here. It just isn't the case. You won't be able to find where that agreement
 happened.

The initial parser functions were a replacement for {{qif}} and kin.
The enwiki community had already adopted a significant degree of
programming in template space.   But they did so in a half-assed way
that was bad for server load and template management, so bad in fact
that their approach was provoking arguments between the community and
the developers (see the enwiki history of WT:AUM circa 2006, for
example).  The initial parser functions where created to answer that
demand in the community in a way that wouldn't cause the servers to
explode.

Hence the demand for programmatic templates came from the community
initially, the developers simply responded to that in a way that was
necessary to keep things working.  (For the record, I'm referring to
the earliest history of ParserFunctions.  I'm not sure about the
history of #expr and some of the later bits.)

-Robert Rohde

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-02 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
 snip
  I really like the ParserFunctions example. Enabled with hardly any
  discussion and now used 500,000 times on the English Wikipedia. It had a
  major effect on Wikipedia that made it much harder to use. And now we are
  stuck in a programming mindset and we all assume that we all agreed to
 come
  here. It just isn't the case. You won't be able to find where that
 agreement
  happened.

 The initial parser functions were a replacement for {{qif}} and kin.
 The enwiki community had already adopted a significant degree of
 programming in template space.


The developer that abused templates so that qif could be written does not
constitute a consensus. The conversations regarding programming on Wikipedia
were extremely limited given their impact.
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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: How do you fully consult the community consensus?

2009-07-02 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Robert Rohderaro...@gmail.com wrote:
 (For the record, I'm referring to
 the earliest history of ParserFunctions.  I'm not sure about the
 history of #expr and some of the later bits.)

#expr was present since the first commit (r13505).

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Re: [Foundation-l] No default codec for video and audio in HTML5

2009-07-02 Thread Mike.lifeguard
Purely out of ignorance, why do we like ogg, but not H264? Or is it not
that we don't /like/ it, but rather we simply don't support it as a
format for whatever reason?

Thanks,
-Mike
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