Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com wrote: now that we have blinking banners, Domas Oh! Oh! can we have marquees as well... and those flashy under construction gifs?? -Peachey ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Big problem to solve: good WYSIWYG on WMF wikis
Ryan Lomonaco wrote: I think this has been brought up before, but a thought I've had: Apart from the fact that it will require a ton of work in coding, what would keep us from separating templates (and, for that matter, images) from the article text? Article text would exist by itself, and categories, templates, images and metadata would all be kept and edited separately from the article itself, with pointers indicating where the templates and images should go within the article. Nothing. But images and /some/ inline templates can't be done that way since they also need a position. That can be automated for eg. license templates, or infoboxes, but not for a template formatting a quote. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement of Expert Trustees' Appointment and Bylaw-change
Congratulations to the board members that were re-appointed and good luck for the next year/two years. Was there any community consultation before this by-law change? If there was, I missed it. While this change isn't likely to be controversial, I think it would be a good idea to consult the community before changing the bylaws in any material way. I'm not saying there should be a referendum on any changes, but I think some degree of consultation would be advisable. On 31 December 2010 15:24, Ting Chen tc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Happy Holidays! As we prepare to ring in the New Year, we're happy to announce that each of our current four Wikimedia Foundation Board members up for reappointment have been unanimously reappointed and will continue in their positions in 2011. In addition, the Board has completed the first ever evaluation process, and during that time, we thought hard about some of the details around the appointment process. After completing the evaluation process we've voted to adjust the bylaws to extend all Trustee appointments to two years. In the past, community-elected and chapter-nominated trustees held positions for two years before reelection or renomination was necessary; however, Board-appointed Trustees and the Community Founder Trustee needed to be reappointed every year. We've decided to amend Article 4, Section 3 of the Wikimedia Foundation's bylaws so that all Trustees are equal. We recognize that it's important to all of us that all terms are equal no matter what seat a member holds. This amendment will officially begin January 1, 2011, however, Stu, Jan-Bart, and Jimmy have volunteered to take on a one year term. Their terms will expire on December 31, 2011. Matt's and Bishaka's terms will expire on December 31, 2012. As written in the bylaws, the Board of Trustees consists of three members selected by the Wikimedia Community, two selected by Wikimedia chapters, four members through appointment by the Board for specific expertise, and a Community Founder seat. We currently remain a full Board with all 10 Trustees currently serving. Looking back at the last year, we've accomplished a lot as a Board and as a movement. 2011 will prove to be both exciting and challenging as we really move into implementing the five-year strategic plan we all worked so hard together on this year. We're looking forward to bringing Wikimedia to more people in more places all over the world. Thank you all for your commitment to keeping Wikimedia going and happy 10 years and 2011 to you all. Ting -- Ting Chen Member of the Board of Trustees Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. E-Mail: tc...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion
Awesome! How about we add popups? Seriously, if you're going to do this, just add AdSense...it's a heck of a lot prettier. On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:10 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com wrote: now that we have blinking banners, Domas Oh! Oh! can we have marquees as well... and those flashy under construction gifs?? -Peachey ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mono mium monom...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! How about we add popups? Seriously, if you're going to do this, just add AdSense...it's a heck of a lot prettier. On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:10 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com wrote: now that we have blinking banners, Domas Oh! Oh! can we have marquees as well... and those flashy under construction gifs?? -Peachey Firstly, this is probably just an experiment to see if it draws more donations. If it doesn't, they probably won't use the tactic in the future. Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you should start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't get hired or servers that won't get bought, etc. Third, adverts are turned off for non-logged in users. Try logging in. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion
Are you saying that WMF has put itself in a huge dependence relationship with money? That it could be forced to require third parties' help if the donations are insufficient? That would be throwing itself into the lion's den. What was worth risking so much its economical autonomy and mission? I hope you're wrong about the situation, Brian. On 31/12/2010 16:19, Brian J Mingus wrote: Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you should start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't get hired or servers that won't get bought, etc. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion
Banners have been turned off for logged-in users on en.wp (and maybe other projects?) for quite some time now, since well before Christmas holiday break for most people. -Dan On Dec 31, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Brian J Mingus wrote: On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mono mium monom...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! How about we add popups? Seriously, if you're going to do this, just add AdSense...it's a heck of a lot prettier. On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:10 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com wrote: now that we have blinking banners, Domas Oh! Oh! can we have marquees as well... and those flashy under construction gifs?? -Peachey Firstly, this is probably just an experiment to see if it draws more donations. If it doesn't, they probably won't use the tactic in the future. Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you should start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't get hired or servers that won't get bought, etc. Third, adverts are turned off for non-logged in users. Try logging in. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion
I guess nobody cares if you top post or bottom post here, but it does get confusing when the two are mixed in the same thread. I need not imply that the WMF depends on money. It's kind of obvious, isn't it? The WMF relies primarily on donations from individuals, and to a lesser extent on large grants from folks like Omidyar. So long as basic principles like not showing third party adverts are not violated there is no reason to suspect that the readership of the projects and thus the amount that can be collected from donations will continue to grow. If individual donations did decline for some reason WMF would be forced to scale back operations. There is no reason that they would have to resort to seeking large donations from extremely wealthy private interests. In the extreme of things we might find that there is only enough money to pay for servers and bandwidth. That wouldn't be so bad - it's the way things used to be. Overall I would say there is little to nothing wrong with the current situation, so I really don't understand your e-mail. Our economical autonomy derives from our principles of openness and freedom. - Brian On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Noein prono...@gmail.com wrote: Are you saying that WMF has put itself in a huge dependence relationship with money? That it could be forced to require third parties' help if the donations are insufficient? That would be throwing itself into the lion's den. What was worth risking so much its economical autonomy and mission? I hope you're wrong about the situation, Brian. On 31/12/2010 16:19, Brian J Mingus wrote: Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you should start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't get hired or servers that won't get bought, etc. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion
Correction: So long as basic principles like not showing third party adverts are not violated there is no reason to suspect that the readership of the projects and thus the amount that can be collected from donations will *not*continue to grow. On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: I guess nobody cares if you top post or bottom post here, but it does get confusing when the two are mixed in the same thread. I need not imply that the WMF depends on money. It's kind of obvious, isn't it? The WMF relies primarily on donations from individuals, and to a lesser extent on large grants from folks like Omidyar. So long as basic principles like not showing third party adverts are not violated there is no reason to suspect that the readership of the projects and thus the amount that can be collected from donations will continue to grow. If individual donations did decline for some reason WMF would be forced to scale back operations. There is no reason that they would have to resort to seeking large donations from extremely wealthy private interests. In the extreme of things we might find that there is only enough money to pay for servers and bandwidth. That wouldn't be so bad - it's the way things used to be. Overall I would say there is little to nothing wrong with the current situation, so I really don't understand your e-mail. Our economical autonomy derives from our principles of openness and freedom. - Brian On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Noein prono...@gmail.com wrote: Are you saying that WMF has put itself in a huge dependence relationship with money? That it could be forced to require third parties' help if the donations are insufficient? That would be throwing itself into the lion's den. What was worth risking so much its economical autonomy and mission? I hope you're wrong about the situation, Brian. On 31/12/2010 16:19, Brian J Mingus wrote: Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you should start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't get hired or servers that won't get bought, etc. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion
Brian J Mingus wrote: I guess nobody cares if you top post or bottom post here, but it does get confusing when the two are mixed in the same thread. I care. You shouldn't be top-posting or bottom-posting. Use inline posting: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette Brian J Mingus (also) wrote: Firstly, this is probably just an experiment to see if it draws more donations. If it doesn't, they probably won't use the tactic in the future. The issue isn't whether it's a experiment or even whether it's successful. The issue is one of principles. Animated banner ads aren't acceptable. Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you should start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't get hired or servers that won't get bought, etc. This is a false dilemma. The money needed to keep Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects running and ad-free for the next year was raised _weeks_ ago. It's against Wikimedia's principles to use obnoxious or misleading ads to raise money in this manner. Third, adverts are turned off for non-logged in users. Try logging in. As the vast majority of page views are anonymous, this is largely a moot point. Yes, logging in will suppress the banners on an individual level. That doesn't make it acceptable to have bad banners for most of the readership. MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion
popups, lightboxes, talking jimbos: Fundraising 2011 Happy New Year everyone! On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:56 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Brian J Mingus wrote: I guess nobody cares if you top post or bottom post here, but it does get confusing when the two are mixed in the same thread. I care. You shouldn't be top-posting or bottom-posting. Use inline posting: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette Brian J Mingus (also) wrote: Firstly, this is probably just an experiment to see if it draws more donations. If it doesn't, they probably won't use the tactic in the future. The issue isn't whether it's a experiment or even whether it's successful. The issue is one of principles. Animated banner ads aren't acceptable. Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you should start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't get hired or servers that won't get bought, etc. This is a false dilemma. The money needed to keep Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects running and ad-free for the next year was raised _weeks_ ago. It's against Wikimedia's principles to use obnoxious or misleading ads to raise money in this manner. Third, adverts are turned off for non-logged in users. Try logging in. As the vast majority of page views are anonymous, this is largely a moot point. Yes, logging in will suppress the banners on an individual level. That doesn't make it acceptable to have bad banners for most of the readership. MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Wikimania 2011 Registration Now Open
Hello, everyone. We are pleased to announce that the registration period and the scholarship application period for Wikimania 2011, which will be held in Haifa, Israel, on August 4th to 7th, 2011, have *just begun!* == Registration == Those who register early will enjoy considerable discounts in both registration and accommodation fees, so be sure to register as early as possible. * Full information about registration, including fees and registration periods: http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration * Our registration website: http://wmreg.wikimedia.org.il/ == Scholarship application == If you require a scholarship to attend Wikimania 2011, you can apply for one until the end of January 2011. This year, there will be partial scholarships to cover travel costs up to USD 300, in addition to full scholarships. * Full information about scholarships: http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships * Our scholarship application website: http://wmschols.wikimedia.org.il/ == Call for Papers == The Call for Papers for the conference has been available for a while now. You are welcome to submit workshop, seminar, tutorial, panel, and presentation proposals. * The Call for Papers: http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Papers == Translators required == You are welcome to help translate as much of our conference wiki into as many languages as possible, using the regular {{Other languages}} and {{Translation}} templates. If you are interested in translating the registration website into additional languages, please contact us at wikimania -registrat...@wikimedia.org. == Got any questions? == You can contact us in any of the ways listed on http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Contact. If you have questions that might interest others, please post them on http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania:Information_Desk. Please bear with us if the registration or scholarship application websites are momentarily unavailable due to maintenance. Wishing you all a happy 2011 and looking forward to hosting you in Haifa, Asaf Bartov on behalf of the entire Wikimania 2011 local team -- Asaf Bartov asaf.bar...@gmail.com ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Fundraising banners
Hi everyone, We wanted you to hear first: in about three hours, we're switching the messaging on the banners to Thank you! It's time to thank the world, because the world came together to help support the Wikimedia projects. We're delighted to report that nearly half a million donations came in. It's a resounding vote of confidence in what you've done with the projects. So take a moment to stop, to celebrate, and to enjoy the accomplishment... and then it's time to focus on the tenth anniversary year! You may notice that the fundraising statistics page doesn't quite say $16M. Since you might be asked about that, here's the math we used to arrive at the end of the fundraiser: In addition to the amount posted on the graph (roughly $13.5M), we have about $1.5 million in revenue received during testing or received but not yet posted (manual check entry, etc). We've been counting on $500,000 from the chapters in our thermometer formula but given the extraordinary chapter fundraising success this year, we're confident that we'll be over the $16M mark. (We're also including an adjusted value for the recurring gifts that we've received this year.) We're delighted to be able to start 2011 with our community giving goal already met. We did this in a collaborative fashion: testing nearly 200 banner ideas submitted by the community, using translations, with community involvement in the testing, and in the next phase of the campaign - encouraging people to edit. We'll be running Thank you banners for the next few days to tell the world how much this editing community appreciates their financial support, and then will convert to banners inviting people to get involved in tenth anniversary celebrations around the world, and to make their first edit (the contribution phase of the campaign). Now let's go celebrate! Zack Exley Philippe Beaudette Megan Hernandez ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banners
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone, We wanted you to hear first: in about three hours, we're switching the messaging on the banners to Thank you! Yay!!! Congratulations Philippe and the fundraising team and thanks for the hard work! Cheers, Katie (@aude) It's time to thank the world, because the world came together to help support the Wikimedia projects. We're delighted to report that nearly half a million donations came in. It's a resounding vote of confidence in what you've done with the projects. So take a moment to stop, to celebrate, and to enjoy the accomplishment... and then it's time to focus on the tenth anniversary year! You may notice that the fundraising statistics page doesn't quite say $16M. Since you might be asked about that, here's the math we used to arrive at the end of the fundraiser: In addition to the amount posted on the graph (roughly $13.5M), we have about $1.5 million in revenue received during testing or received but not yet posted (manual check entry, etc). We've been counting on $500,000 from the chapters in our thermometer formula but given the extraordinary chapter fundraising success this year, we're confident that we'll be over the $16M mark. (We're also including an adjusted value for the recurring gifts that we've received this year.) We're delighted to be able to start 2011 with our community giving goal already met. We did this in a collaborative fashion: testing nearly 200 banner ideas submitted by the community, using translations, with community involvement in the testing, and in the next phase of the campaign - encouraging people to edit. We'll be running Thank you banners for the next few days to tell the world how much this editing community appreciates their financial support, and then will convert to banners inviting people to get involved in tenth anniversary celebrations around the world, and to make their first edit (the contribution phase of the campaign). Now let's go celebrate! Zack Exley Philippe Beaudette Megan Hernandez ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banners
+1 with a :) and a cherry on top. On 12/31/2010 8:34 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: Hi everyone, We wanted you to hear first: in about three hours, we're switching the messaging on the banners to Thank you! It's time to thank the world, because the world came together to help support the Wikimedia projects. We're delighted to report that nearly half a million donations came in. It's a resounding vote of confidence in what you've done with the projects. So take a moment to stop, to celebrate, and to enjoy the accomplishment... and then it's time to focus on the tenth anniversary year! You may notice that the fundraising statistics page doesn't quite say $16M. Since you might be asked about that, here's the math we used to arrive at the end of the fundraiser: In addition to the amount posted on the graph (roughly $13.5M), we have about $1.5 million in revenue received during testing or received but not yet posted (manual check entry, etc). We've been counting on $500,000 from the chapters in our thermometer formula but given the extraordinary chapter fundraising success this year, we're confident that we'll be over the $16M mark. (We're also including an adjusted value for the recurring gifts that we've received this year.) We're delighted to be able to start 2011 with our community giving goal already met. We did this in a collaborative fashion: testing nearly 200 banner ideas submitted by the community, using translations, with community involvement in the testing, and in the next phase of the campaign - encouraging people to edit. We'll be running Thank you banners for the next few days to tell the world how much this editing community appreciates their financial support, and then will convert to banners inviting people to get involved in tenth anniversary celebrations around the world, and to make their first edit (the contribution phase of the campaign). Now let's go celebrate! Zack Exley Philippe Beaudette Megan Hernandez ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Keegan Peterzell Associate Community Officer, Fundraising 2010 Wikimedia Foundation kpeterz...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l