Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2010-12-31 Thread K. Peachey
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 now that we have blinking banners,
 Domas
 Oh! Oh! can we have marquees as well... and those flashy under
construction gifs??
-Peachey

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Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Big problem to solve: good WYSIWYG on WMF wikis

2010-12-31 Thread Platonides
Ryan Lomonaco wrote:
 I think this has been brought up before, but a thought I've had:  Apart from
 the fact that it will require a ton of work in coding, what would keep us
 from separating templates (and, for that matter, images) from the article
 text?  Article text would exist by itself, and categories, templates, images
 and metadata would all be kept and edited separately from the article
 itself, with pointers indicating where the templates and images should go
 within the article.

Nothing. But images and /some/ inline templates can't be done that way
since they also need a position. That can be automated for eg. license
templates, or infoboxes, but not for a template formatting a quote.


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Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement of Expert Trustees' Appointment and Bylaw-change

2010-12-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
Congratulations to the board members that were re-appointed and good
luck for the next year/two years.

Was there any community consultation before this by-law change? If
there was, I missed it. While this change isn't likely to be
controversial, I think it would be a good idea to consult the
community before changing the bylaws in any material way. I'm not
saying there should be a referendum on any changes, but I think some
degree of consultation would be advisable.

On 31 December 2010 15:24, Ting Chen tc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Happy Holidays!

 As we prepare to ring in the New Year, we're happy to announce that each
 of our current four Wikimedia Foundation Board members up for
 reappointment have been unanimously reappointed and will continue in
 their positions in 2011.  In addition, the Board has completed the first
 ever evaluation process, and during that time, we thought hard about
 some of the details around the appointment process. After completing the
 evaluation process we've voted to adjust the bylaws to extend all
 Trustee appointments to two years.

 In the past, community-elected and chapter-nominated trustees held
 positions for two years before reelection or renomination was necessary;
 however, Board-appointed Trustees and the Community Founder Trustee
 needed to be reappointed every year. We've decided to amend Article 4,
 Section 3 of the Wikimedia Foundation's bylaws so that all Trustees are
 equal. We recognize that it's important to all of us that all terms are
 equal no matter what seat a member holds.  This amendment will
 officially begin January 1, 2011, however, Stu, Jan-Bart, and Jimmy have
 volunteered to take on a one year term. Their terms will expire on
 December 31, 2011. Matt's and Bishaka's terms will expire on December
 31, 2012.

 As written in the bylaws, the Board of Trustees consists of three
 members selected by the Wikimedia Community, two selected by Wikimedia
 chapters, four members through appointment by the Board for specific
 expertise, and a Community Founder seat. We currently remain a full
 Board with all 10 Trustees currently serving.

 Looking back at the last year, we've accomplished a lot as a Board and
 as a movement. 2011 will prove to be both exciting and challenging as we
 really move into implementing the five-year strategic plan we all worked
 so hard together on this year.  We're looking forward to bringing
 Wikimedia to more people in more places all over the world. Thank you
 all for your commitment to keeping Wikimedia going and happy 10 years
 and 2011 to you all.

 Ting

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Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2010-12-31 Thread Mono mium
Awesome!

How about we add popups?

Seriously, if you're going to do this, just add AdSense...it's a heck of a
lot prettier.




On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:10 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  now that we have blinking banners,
  Domas
  Oh! Oh! can we have marquees as well... and those flashy under
 construction gifs??
 -Peachey

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Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2010-12-31 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mono mium monom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Awesome!

 How about we add popups?

 Seriously, if you're going to do this, just add AdSense...it's a heck of a
 lot prettier.

 


 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:10 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au
 wrote:

  On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   now that we have blinking banners,
   Domas
   Oh! Oh! can we have marquees as well... and those flashy under
  construction gifs??
  -Peachey


Firstly, this is probably just an experiment to see if it draws more
donations. If it doesn't, they probably won't use the tactic in the future.

Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut
something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not
try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you should
start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't get
hired or servers that won't get bought, etc.

Third, adverts are turned off for non-logged in users. Try logging in.
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Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2010-12-31 Thread Noein
Are you saying that WMF has put itself in a huge dependence relationship
with money? That it could be forced to require third parties' help if
the donations are insufficient? That would be throwing itself into the
lion's den. What was worth risking so much its economical autonomy and
mission?
I hope you're wrong about the situation, Brian.



On 31/12/2010 16:19, Brian J Mingus wrote:
 Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut
 something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not
 try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you should
 start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't get
 hired or servers that won't get bought, etc.

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Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2010-12-31 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Banners have been turned off for logged-in users on en.wp (and maybe other 
projects?) for quite some time now, since well before Christmas holiday break 
for most people.

-Dan 
On Dec 31, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Brian J Mingus wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mono mium monom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Awesome!
 
 How about we add popups?
 
 Seriously, if you're going to do this, just add AdSense...it's a heck of a
 lot prettier.
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:10 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au
 wrote:
 
 On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 now that we have blinking banners,
 Domas
 Oh! Oh! can we have marquees as well... and those flashy under
 construction gifs??
 -Peachey
 
 
 Firstly, this is probably just an experiment to see if it draws more
 donations. If it doesn't, they probably won't use the tactic in the future.
 
 Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut
 something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not
 try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you should
 start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't get
 hired or servers that won't get bought, etc.
 
 Third, adverts are turned off for non-logged in users. Try logging in.
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Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2010-12-31 Thread Brian J Mingus
I guess nobody cares if you top post or bottom post here, but it does get
confusing when the two are mixed in the same thread.

I need not imply that the WMF depends on money. It's kind of obvious, isn't
it? The WMF relies primarily on donations from individuals, and to a lesser
extent on large grants from folks like Omidyar. So long as basic principles
like not showing third party adverts are not violated there is no reason to
suspect that the readership of the projects and thus the amount that can be
collected from donations will continue to grow. If individual donations did
decline for some reason WMF would be forced to scale back operations. There
is no reason that they would have to resort to seeking large donations from
extremely wealthy private interests. In the extreme of things we might find
that there is only enough money to pay for servers and bandwidth. That
wouldn't be so bad - it's the way things used to be. Overall I would say
there is little to nothing wrong with the current situation, so I really
don't understand your e-mail. Our economical autonomy derives from our
principles of openness and freedom.

- Brian

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Noein prono...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you saying that WMF has put itself in a huge dependence relationship
 with money? That it could be forced to require third parties' help if
 the donations are insufficient? That would be throwing itself into the
 lion's den. What was worth risking so much its economical autonomy and
 mission?
 I hope you're wrong about the situation, Brian.



 On 31/12/2010 16:19, Brian J Mingus wrote:
  Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut
  something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not
  try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you
 should
  start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't
 get
  hired or servers that won't get bought, etc.

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Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2010-12-31 Thread Brian J Mingus
Correction: So long as basic principles like not showing third party adverts
are not violated there is no reason to suspect that the readership of the
projects and thus the amount that can be collected from donations will
*not*continue to grow.

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:

 I guess nobody cares if you top post or bottom post here, but it does get
 confusing when the two are mixed in the same thread.

 I need not imply that the WMF depends on money. It's kind of obvious, isn't
 it? The WMF relies primarily on donations from individuals, and to a lesser
 extent on large grants from folks like Omidyar. So long as basic principles
 like not showing third party adverts are not violated there is no reason to
 suspect that the readership of the projects and thus the amount that can be
 collected from donations will continue to grow. If individual donations did
 decline for some reason WMF would be forced to scale back operations. There
 is no reason that they would have to resort to seeking large donations from
 extremely wealthy private interests. In the extreme of things we might find
 that there is only enough money to pay for servers and bandwidth. That
 wouldn't be so bad - it's the way things used to be. Overall I would say
 there is little to nothing wrong with the current situation, so I really
 don't understand your e-mail. Our economical autonomy derives from our
 principles of openness and freedom.

 - Brian

 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Noein prono...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you saying that WMF has put itself in a huge dependence relationship
 with money? That it could be forced to require third parties' help if
 the donations are insufficient? That would be throwing itself into the
 lion's den. What was worth risking so much its economical autonomy and
 mission?
 I hope you're wrong about the situation, Brian.



 On 31/12/2010 16:19, Brian J Mingus wrote:
  Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut
  something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they
 not
  try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you
 should
  start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't
 get
  hired or servers that won't get bought, etc.

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Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2010-12-31 Thread MZMcBride
Brian J Mingus wrote:
 I guess nobody cares if you top post or bottom post here, but it does get
 confusing when the two are mixed in the same thread.

I care. You shouldn't be top-posting or bottom-posting. Use inline posting:
https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette

Brian J Mingus (also) wrote:
 Firstly, this is probably just an experiment to see if it draws more
 donations. If it doesn't, they probably won't use the tactic in the future.

The issue isn't whether it's a experiment or even whether it's successful.
The issue is one of principles. Animated banner ads aren't acceptable.

 Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut
 something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not
 try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you should
 start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't get
 hired or servers that won't get bought, etc.

This is a false dilemma. The money needed to keep Wikipedia and other
Wikimedia projects running and ad-free for the next year was raised _weeks_
ago. It's against Wikimedia's principles to use obnoxious or misleading ads
to raise money in this manner.

 Third, adverts are turned off for non-logged in users. Try logging in.

As the vast majority of page views are anonymous, this is largely a moot
point. Yes, logging in will suppress the banners on an individual level.
That doesn't make it acceptable to have bad banners for most of the
readership.

MZMcBride



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Re: [Foundation-l] fundraiser suggestion

2010-12-31 Thread Mono mium
popups, lightboxes, talking jimbos: Fundraising 2011

Happy New Year everyone!

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:56 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

 Brian J Mingus wrote:
  I guess nobody cares if you top post or bottom post here, but it does get
  confusing when the two are mixed in the same thread.

 I care. You shouldn't be top-posting or bottom-posting. Use inline posting:
 https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette

 Brian J Mingus (also) wrote:
  Firstly, this is probably just an experiment to see if it draws more
  donations. If it doesn't, they probably won't use the tactic in the
 future.

 The issue isn't whether it's a experiment or even whether it's successful.
 The issue is one of principles. Animated banner ads aren't acceptable.

  Second, if WMF doesn't meet the fundraising goal they will have to cut
  something from the budget. If it's so very important to you that they not
  try advertising techniques that are mildly annoying to some users you
 should
  start by suggesting projects that won't get funded or people that won't
 get
  hired or servers that won't get bought, etc.

 This is a false dilemma. The money needed to keep Wikipedia and other
 Wikimedia projects running and ad-free for the next year was raised _weeks_
 ago. It's against Wikimedia's principles to use obnoxious or misleading ads
 to raise money in this manner.

  Third, adverts are turned off for non-logged in users. Try logging in.

 As the vast majority of page views are anonymous, this is largely a moot
 point. Yes, logging in will suppress the banners on an individual level.
 That doesn't make it acceptable to have bad banners for most of the
 readership.

 MZMcBride



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[Foundation-l] Wikimania 2011 Registration Now Open

2010-12-31 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hello, everyone.

We are pleased to announce that the registration period and the scholarship
application period for Wikimania 2011, which will be held in Haifa, Israel,
on August 4th to 7th, 2011, have *just begun!*

== Registration ==
Those who register early will enjoy considerable discounts in both
registration and accommodation fees, so be sure to register as early as
possible.

* Full information about registration, including fees and registration
periods: http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration
* Our registration website: http://wmreg.wikimedia.org.il/

== Scholarship application ==
If you require a scholarship to attend Wikimania 2011, you can apply for one
until the end of January 2011. This year, there will be partial scholarships
to cover travel costs up to USD 300, in addition to full scholarships.

* Full information about scholarships:
http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships
* Our scholarship application website: http://wmschols.wikimedia.org.il/

== Call for Papers ==
The Call for Papers for the conference has been available for a while now.
You are welcome to submit workshop, seminar, tutorial, panel, and
presentation proposals.

* The Call for Papers:
http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Papers

== Translators required ==
You are welcome to help translate as much of our conference wiki into as
many languages as possible, using the regular {{Other languages}} and
{{Translation}} templates.

If you are interested in translating the registration website into
additional languages, please contact us at wikimania
-registrat...@wikimedia.org.

== Got any questions? ==
You can contact us in any of the ways listed on
http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Contact.

If you have questions that might interest others, please post them on
http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania:Information_Desk.

Please bear with us if the registration or scholarship application websites
are momentarily unavailable due to maintenance.

Wishing you all a happy 2011 and looking forward to hosting you in Haifa,

Asaf Bartov
on behalf of the entire Wikimania 2011 local team

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[Foundation-l] Fundraising banners

2010-12-31 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hi everyone,

We wanted you to hear first: in about three hours, we're switching the 
messaging on the banners to Thank you!  It's time to thank the world, because 
the world came together to help support the Wikimedia projects.  We're 
delighted to report that nearly half a million donations came in.  It's a 
resounding vote of confidence in what you've done with the projects.  So take a 
moment to stop, to celebrate, and to enjoy the accomplishment... and then it's 
time to focus on the tenth anniversary year!  

You may notice that the fundraising statistics page doesn't quite say $16M.  
Since you might be asked about that, here's the math we used to arrive at the 
end of the fundraiser:

In addition to the amount posted on the graph (roughly $13.5M), we have about 
$1.5 million in revenue received during testing or received but not yet posted 
(manual check entry, etc).  We've been counting on $500,000 from the chapters 
in our thermometer formula but given the extraordinary chapter fundraising 
success this year, we're confident that we'll be over the $16M mark.  (We're 
also including an adjusted value for the recurring gifts that we've received 
this year.)

We're delighted to be able to start 2011 with our community giving goal already 
met.  We did this in a collaborative fashion: testing nearly 200 banner ideas 
submitted by the community, using translations, with community involvement in 
the testing, and in the next phase of the campaign - encouraging people to 
edit.  

We'll be running Thank you banners for the next few days to tell the world 
how much this editing community appreciates their financial support, and then 
will convert to banners inviting people to get involved in tenth anniversary 
celebrations around the world, and to make their first edit (the contribution 
phase of the campaign).  

Now let's go celebrate!

Zack Exley
Philippe Beaudette
Megan Hernandez

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banners

2010-12-31 Thread aude
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Philippe Beaudette 
pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 We wanted you to hear first: in about three hours, we're switching the
 messaging on the banners to Thank you!


Yay!!! Congratulations Philippe and the fundraising team and thanks for the
hard work!

Cheers,
Katie (@aude)



 It's time to thank the world, because the world came together to help
 support the Wikimedia projects.  We're delighted to report that nearly half
 a million donations came in.  It's a resounding vote of confidence in what
 you've done with the projects.  So take a moment to stop, to celebrate, and
 to enjoy the accomplishment... and then it's time to focus on the tenth
 anniversary year!

 You may notice that the fundraising statistics page doesn't quite say $16M.
  Since you might be asked about that, here's the math we used to arrive at
 the end of the fundraiser:

 In addition to the amount posted on the graph (roughly $13.5M), we have
 about $1.5 million in revenue received during testing or received but not
 yet posted (manual check entry, etc).  We've been counting on $500,000 from
 the chapters in our thermometer formula but given the extraordinary chapter
 fundraising success this year, we're confident that we'll be over the $16M
 mark.  (We're also including an adjusted value for the recurring gifts that
 we've received this year.)

 We're delighted to be able to start 2011 with our community giving goal
 already met.  We did this in a collaborative fashion: testing nearly 200
 banner ideas submitted by the community, using translations, with community
 involvement in the testing, and in the next phase of the campaign -
 encouraging people to edit.

 We'll be running Thank you banners for the next few days to tell the
 world how much this editing community appreciates their financial support,
 and then will convert to banners inviting people to get involved in tenth
 anniversary celebrations around the world, and to make their first edit (the
 contribution phase of the campaign).

 Now let's go celebrate!

 Zack Exley
 Philippe Beaudette
 Megan Hernandez

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising banners

2010-12-31 Thread Keegan Peterzell
+1 with a :) and a cherry on top.

On 12/31/2010 8:34 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 We wanted you to hear first: in about three hours, we're switching the 
 messaging on the banners to Thank you!  It's time to thank the world, 
 because the world came together to help support the Wikimedia projects.  
 We're delighted to report that nearly half a million donations came in.  It's 
 a resounding vote of confidence in what you've done with the projects.  So 
 take a moment to stop, to celebrate, and to enjoy the accomplishment... and 
 then it's time to focus on the tenth anniversary year!

 You may notice that the fundraising statistics page doesn't quite say $16M.  
 Since you might be asked about that, here's the math we used to arrive at the 
 end of the fundraiser:

 In addition to the amount posted on the graph (roughly $13.5M), we have about 
 $1.5 million in revenue received during testing or received but not yet 
 posted (manual check entry, etc).  We've been counting on $500,000 from the 
 chapters in our thermometer formula but given the extraordinary chapter 
 fundraising success this year, we're confident that we'll be over the $16M 
 mark.  (We're also including an adjusted value for the recurring gifts that 
 we've received this year.)

 We're delighted to be able to start 2011 with our community giving goal 
 already met.  We did this in a collaborative fashion: testing nearly 200 
 banner ideas submitted by the community, using translations, with community 
 involvement in the testing, and in the next phase of the campaign - 
 encouraging people to edit.

 We'll be running Thank you banners for the next few days to tell the world 
 how much this editing community appreciates their financial support, and then 
 will convert to banners inviting people to get involved in tenth anniversary 
 celebrations around the world, and to make their first edit (the 
 contribution phase of the campaign).

 Now let's go celebrate!

 Zack Exley
 Philippe Beaudette
 Megan Hernandez

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 Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

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Wikimedia Foundation
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