Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
A reminder about motivation, purpose and money. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Logo Contest open on Commons!
[xpost foundation-l/commons-l] Hello all, You might have heard of Wiki Loves Monuments, an event destined to populate Wikimedia Commons with photos of listed monuments across the world. The 2011 edition is centered on Europe, but this is a movement wide/worldwide event, and we'd like to have a logo that fits both the ambitions of the project and reflect how fun it may be to participate. Therefore, a logo contest has been opened to get a great logo for Wiki Loves Monuments. The contest opens NOW, and logos can be submitted until the 17th of April 23.59 UTC. Voting will start on the 18th of April at 0:00 UTC. (we'll ping you again when it's time). Please distribute widely in your language communities and let your creativity loose! The contest page with rules and how to submit your logo can be found here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Logo_contest Submissions are here for your perusal: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Logo_contest/Submissions Cheers, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
* Except media (i.e. Wikimedia Commons), we lack of any systemic work on improving content. (I don't count particular initiatives, like cooperation between Wikipedia in X language and University in X country.) Actually, I believe we lack of any systemic work on improving content on Commons as well. For instance, I travel a lot and I have (and I could have done) pictures of obscure places (including some in Serbia) which are completely underrepresented on Commons. I have never been approached by anyone, nor suggested to report on some pages, in order to make some pictures of some specific environments I would likely visit soon. I suggested it myself a couple of times and the general reaction was that I should not bother. Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Wikipedia, The Book
http://www.rob-matthews.com/index.php?/project/wikipedia/ Rob, May I direct your attention to: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Commons:Upload Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia, The Book
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: http://www.rob-matthews.com/index.php?/project/wikipedia/ Rob, May I direct your attention to: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Commons:Upload Fred This is quite cool! I've seen those diagrams of how many shelves en.wikipedia would fill if printed, but now I'm wondering: if you only printed the nearly 17 thousand featured articles and good articles, how big would that be? -- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
* Except media (i.e. Wikimedia Commons), we lack of any systemic work on improving content. (I don't count particular initiatives, like cooperation between Wikipedia in X language and University in X country.) Actually, I believe we lack of any systemic work on improving content on Commons as well. For instance, I travel a lot and I have (and I could have done) pictures of obscure places (including some in Serbia) which are completely underrepresented on Commons. I have never been approached by anyone, nor suggested to report on some pages, in order to make some pictures of some specific environments I would likely visit soon. I suggested it myself a couple of times and the general reaction was that I should not bother. Cheers Yaroslav Well, I'm no better than you, I nearly always forget my camera, but if you have time images nearly any village or major feature of the landscape is always welcome, even such places as Hooper... or things such as bear turds. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Category:Hooper,_Colorado https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/File:BearApplePoop.JPG Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
Well, I'm no better than you, I nearly always forget my camera, but if you have time images nearly any village or major feature of the landscape is always welcome, even such places as Hooper... or things such as bear turds. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Category:Hooper,_Colorado https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/File:BearApplePoop.JPG Fred I know my way to Commons which is substantiated by my contribution, and when I have smth to upload, I eventually upload and even sometimes write an article to include the picture, but I would not call it a systemic work. For me, an example of systemic activity would be the message on a designated page that the community YYY or a mosque ZZZ or a mountain WWW do not have any illustrations available on Commons, meeting a user who is going to travel to XXX or ZZZ or WWW but can not really look through all the Commons categories (when they exist anyway). At best this activity should be automated (even though I do not know how it can look like). Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
I know my way to Commons which is substantiated by my contribution, and when I have smth to upload, I eventually upload and even sometimes write an article to include the picture, but I would not call it a systemic work. For me, an example of systemic activity would be the message on a designated page that the community YYY or a mosque ZZZ or a mountain WWW do not have any illustrations available on Commons, meeting a user who is going to travel to XXX or ZZZ or WWW but can not really look through all the Commons categories (when they exist anyway). At best this activity should be automated (even though I do not know how it can look like). Cheers Yaroslav So coded, images needed, like a red link. Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
On 03/29/11 8:16 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: This https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Crestone,_Colorado is the village I live in. Perhaps the rule have been bent a bit, but I don't really see that civilization has been harmed, by doing so. What is a reliable source varies with the context. And it's still missing a pronunciation. My instinct suggests that it should rhyme with bone, but my experience questions my instincts. It is very difficult for someone that is rule-bound to exercise the judgement necessary to adapt reliability to circumstance. There is always the lurking fear that a massive conspiracy is afoot to distort the image of a village of 73 souls. Ec ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] BNR: Less writers on wikipedia due to agression (dutch)
See http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrijvers-wikipedia-door-agressie1 -- [Non-pgp mail clients may show pgp-signature as attachment] gpg (www.gnupg.org) Fingerprint for key FEF9DD72 5ED6 E215 73EE AD84 E03A 01C5 94AC 7B0E FEF9 DD72 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
On 03/29/11 11:13 AM, wrote: On 29/03/2011 18:19, Fred Bauder wrote: Ghost towns in the American West are much written about. Indeed: its part of the mythology. Their inhabitants continue to be consulted. Ec ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
On 03/29/11 11:13 AM, wrote: On 29/03/2011 18:19, Fred Bauder wrote: Ghost towns in the American West are much written about. Indeed: its part of the mythology. Their inhabitants continue to be consulted. Ec Indeed, I myself have been invited to a recording studio to transmit oral history about Crestone. I told they I might be more useful if they asked about Wikipedia... By the way Palestine, Texas rhymes with teen, not tine. Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
On 03/29/11 1:43 AM, Yann Forget wrote: 2011/3/29 wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk: Ah there is the reason, the sum of all human knowledge is approaching completion. Well done to all. We are very far from that. All the issue is that of notability. If we apply the current criteria, which is mainly applied on Western subjects, to other parts of the world, we could have 10 times more articles (villages and towns, local customs and food, etc.). By way of a reality check I just looked at the Spanish Enciclopedia Universal Illustrada, Vol. 51 published in 1926. This volume includes the not uncommon Spanish name Reyes. It contains 25 biographical articles with that simple surname. (I didn't look at the various compounds so frequently found in Spanish.) Of these 25, Mexican author Alfonso Reyes has an article in both en- and es-wp. Mexican general Bernardo Reyes appears only in en-wp. I saw no trace of the other 23 in either project. Ec ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: Less writers on wikipedia due to agression (dutch)
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: See http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrijvers-wikipedia-door-agressie1 Dit is niet nieuw, natuurlijk. I've lived in the Netherlands for a year, now, and I've never heard of BNR—but then, I don't listen to the radio; I still get most of my news from teh internets and the satellite dish I have pointed at the BBC. How influential are they? Austin ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: Less writers on wikipedia due to agression (dutch)
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: See http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrijvers-wikipedia-door-agressie1 Dit is niet nieuw, natuurlijk. I've lived in the Netherlands for a year, now, and I've never heard of BNR—but then, I don't listen to the radio; I still get most of my news from teh internets and the satellite dish I have pointed at the BBC. How influential are they? Austin I think they're fairly well listened to in the financial sector and by management types on the road (and Jazz fans for their evening programme, but that's a different story altogether). Being none of those I'm not all that sure. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: Less writers on wikipedia due to agression (dutch)
Hoi, They are national radio and television. They are particularly influential with the young. Thanks, GerardM On 30 March 2011 22:26, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: See http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrijvers-wikipedia-door-agressie1 Dit is niet nieuw, natuurlijk. I've lived in the Netherlands for a year, now, and I've never heard of BNR—but then, I don't listen to the radio; I still get most of my news from teh internets and the satellite dish I have pointed at the BBC. How influential are they? Austin ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
A key problem is that it's difficult to find people who understand how Wikipedia works but also want to disrupt the status quo. Most currently active Wikipedians, pretty much by definition, like how Wikipedia works right now. Even if they are concerned in theory about overall community decline, the system *works for them*. Changes to the system that would restore openness would probably make a significant proportion of the existing active editor base less satisfied. Right now, most Wikipedia editors enjoy having copyright paranoia, wikilawyering, arguing about notability and reliability, etc. etc. Also, people's influence is, in some sense, a factor of how large the editor base is. The smaller the editor base, the more your individual contributions count. Instead of just asking Wikipedia editors for advice, I'd go to people who run and/or participate in MMORPGs, or people who have studied their social dynamics, like Cory Doctorow and Raph Koster ( http://www.boingboing.net/2011/03/01/taxonomy-of-social-m.html). That said, I know that the active Wikipedia editors really are awesome and great people and are also REALLY good at collaborative editing. So maybe there should be a wiki-effort in the Wikimedia space on online communities and incentives and the such. Treat this problem as an editing challenge. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: On 03/29/11 1:43 AM, Yann Forget wrote: 2011/3/29 wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk: Ah there is the reason, the sum of all human knowledge is approaching completion. Well done to all. We are very far from that. All the issue is that of notability. If we apply the current criteria, which is mainly applied on Western subjects, to other parts of the world, we could have 10 times more articles (villages and towns, local customs and food, etc.). By way of a reality check I just looked at the Spanish Enciclopedia Universal Illustrada, Vol. 51 published in 1926. This volume includes the not uncommon Spanish name Reyes. It contains 25 biographical articles with that simple surname. (I didn't look at the various compounds so frequently found in Spanish.) Of these 25, Mexican author Alfonso Reyes has an article in both en- and es-wp. Mexican general Bernardo Reyes appears only in en-wp. I saw no trace of the other 23 in either project. Ec ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
On 30/03/2011 18:44, Fred Bauder wrote: Well, I'm no better than you, I nearly always forget my camera, but if you have time images nearly any village or major feature of the landscape is always welcome, even such places as Hooper... or things such as bear turds. Well if you leave the camera behind: http://www.phizz.demon.co.uk/misc/centre_france.jpg http://www.phizz.demon.co.uk/misc/tomb004.jpg that is a problem. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: Less writers on wikipedia due to agression (dutch)
Hello, As far as I know, the Wikimedia organizations up to now have never undertaken serious steps to analyze and tackle aggressive behavior. One idea would be to engage a social psychologist or therapist or mediator who can teach Wikipedians at conventions. Of course, the most extreme people will not attend but many good willing editors - I am sure, the vast majority - could need advice how to behave in difficult situations and with difficult people. Gerard is absolutely right, such reports in the media are dangerous for us especially when they support perceptions the reader has already made by himself. Kind regards Ziko 2011/3/30 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, They are national radio and television. They are particularly influential with the young. Thanks, GerardM On 30 March 2011 22:26, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: See http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrijvers-wikipedia-door-agressie1 Dit is niet nieuw, natuurlijk. I've lived in the Netherlands for a year, now, and I've never heard of BNR—but then, I don't listen to the radio; I still get most of my news from teh internets and the satellite dish I have pointed at the BBC. How influential are they? Austin ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Ziko van Dijk The Netherlands http://zikoblog.wordpress.com/ ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: Less writers on wikipedia due toagression (dutch)
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Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: Less writers on wikipedia due to agression(dutch)
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Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: Less writers on wikipedia due toagression (dutch)
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[Foundation-l] IRC office hours tomorrow with Sue Gardner about editor retention
Hi everyone, So following up on the results of the Editor Trends Study and the announcements about the topic of editor retention, I wanted to invite you all to an IRC office hours on the 31st at 17:00 UTC. On St. Patrick's Day we also had a good chat about this issue, so it would be nice to carry that forward. In addition to the usual venues, I've noted the topic on English Wikipedia pages where we've been discussing editor retention, and if you're someone who participates in work such as New Page Patrol (on any project) it would be especially great to have you there. Time conversion and other instructions are on Meta at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours Thanks! -- Steven Walling Fellow at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list
Milos, Basque is not spoken on that list. I haven't heard of any interest in creating a Basque chapter (and I've recently been in contact with a few people from the Basque Wikipedia, for a chapter-like activity, so I believe I would know if such interest existed), and the Iberocoop list, on the other hand, is focused on existing and planned chapters. In any case, although we firmly defend a multilingual setup, we've thoroughly discussed this and agreed that it can only work when the languages are, like Thomas said, mutually intelligible. Basque would not fit there, because of this, but AFAIK most Basque people speak Spanish as well, so that wouldn't be a (hypothetical) problem. Cheers, Waldir On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 16:32, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 March 2011 14:53, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: A really (and not only formally) multilingual list is the new iberocoop list, started after the last Wikimania (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Iberocoop ). I didn't know about that list. That's very interesting - thanks for the heads up! It is a lot easier to manage a multilingual discussion where all the languages are, to at least some extent, mutually intelligible, though. It would be useful to hear what measures, if any, that list has taken to make things easier, though. They might work more generally. Willing to hear how Basque language is used on that list. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
The problem is simple. Our top contributors leave. Because the way things work makes it simply intolerable. *25%* of all respondents [in a survey of contributors] said they stopped contributing because *Some editors made Wikipedia a difficult place to work* * * *(http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Former_Contributors_Survey_Results)* On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Ting Chen tc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear all: The Wikimedia Board of Trustees just completed its two-day meeting [1] this weekend in Berlin. We devoted the longest time to discussing declining trends in editing activity and our collective response to it. I encourage everyone to review Sue’s March update [2], and the editor trends study itself [3]. It is a deeply important topic, and each report is only a few pages long. The Board thinks this is the most significant challenge currently facing our movement. We would encourage the whole movement - the communities, wikiprojects, Chapters, Board, Foundation staff - to think about ways to meet this challenge. We know many contributors care about this and have worked on outreach and hospitality in past years. We are considering how we can help make such work more effective, and ask for suggestions from the community to this problem now and to invite discussion and suggestions [4]. Greetings, Ting [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Board_meetings/March_25-26 [2] http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/March_2011_Update [3] http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Editor_Trends_Study [4] http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:March_2011_Update -- Ting Chen Member of the Board of Trustees Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. E-Mail: tc...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- *Mono* http://enwp.org/m:User:Mono ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to community about community decline
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:45 PM, The Mono m...@mono.x10.bz wrote: The problem is simple. Our top contributors leave. Because the way things work makes it simply intolerable. *25%* of all respondents [in a survey of contributors] said they stopped contributing because *Some editors made Wikipedia a difficult place to work* * * *(http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Former_Contributors_Survey_Results)* It's somewhat more complex than that. Some respondents were banned or encouraged to go do something else. Some were working on good stuff, and were driven away in frustration by things that should not have happened. The former we want gone. They may be editing content, but they're doing harm to the rest of the community as well. The latter, we do not want gone, and to the extent the situation is driving them away (and driving away new editors who might start editing actively) we're in trouble. -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: Less writers on wikipedia due to agression (dutch)
I can confirm what Gerard says: they are influential in the financial and management sector. I occasionally listen to them while driving. The article mentions a german research. At the moment there is one reaction confirming it from personal experience. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: See http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrijvers-wikipedia-door-agressie1 Dit is niet nieuw, natuurlijk. I've lived in the Netherlands for a year, now, and I've never heard of BNR—but then, I don't listen to the radio; I still get most of my news from teh internets and the satellite dish I have pointed at the BBC. How influential are they? Austin ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia, The Book
If i interpret the link correctly, these are only featured articles? 2011/3/30 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: http://www.rob-matthews.com/index.php?/project/wikipedia/ Rob, May I direct your attention to: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/Commons:Upload Fred This is quite cool! I've seen those diagrams of how many shelves en.wikipedia would fill if printed, but now I'm wondering: if you only printed the nearly 17 thousand featured articles and good articles, how big would that be? -- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: Less writers on wikipedia due to agression (dutch)
And of course the widely read sensation newspaper is copying the message widely: http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/9409794/__Minder_schrijvers_Wikipedia__.html?p=24,2 Their readers often react, usually without much feeling for nuance. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: See http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrijvers-wikipedia-door-agressie1 Dit is niet nieuw, natuurlijk. I've lived in the Netherlands for a year, now, and I've never heard of BNR—but then, I don't listen to the radio; I still get most of my news from teh internets and the satellite dish I have pointed at the BBC. How influential are they? Austin I think they're fairly well listened to in the financial sector and by management types on the road (and Jazz fans for their evening programme, but that's a different story altogether). Being none of those I'm not all that sure. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
