[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Poland to start a travelling POTY pictures exhibition in Warsaw (an announcement)

2011-11-24 Thread Tomasz Kozłowski
[I am crossposting this announcement to two mailing lists, feel free to 
pick up the topic on either of them.]

Dear All,
I am--yet again!--delighted to announce that Wikimedia Polska, the 
Polish chapter of the WMF, is organising a travelling exhibition of the 
winning POTY contest pictures. 16 images chosen by Wikimedians from all 
over the world in the annual POTY contests from 2006 onwards are going 
to be shown at exhibitions in various places around Poland.

As some of you may recall, the exhibition premièred during the 10th 
anniversary of the Polish Wikipedia conference, having been visited by a 
few hundred visitors in just two weeks; some images from the pubic 
viewing of the exhibition are available on Wikimedia Commons at 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Picture_of_the_Year_exhibition_-_Pozna%C5%84_2011.

Our first stop is Przystanek Książka (a Polish wordplay for Book 
Break), a media library of the Public Library of the district of Ochota 
in Warsaw. The exhibition starts on Monday, November 28, and will remain 
until the end of the year. 16 pictures, the best of the best of the 
Wikimedia movement, will be shown in an exhibition open for the public, 
with descriptions available in Polish, English and German.

For those of you currently living in Warsaw or going to visit the 
capital in the upcoming weeks: the library is located at 42 Grójecka 
Street, just two tram stops (and 8 minutes) away from the Warsaw Central 
railway station (tram lines 9 and 25), and is open on working days 
from 10 AM until 7 PM (2 PM-7 PM on Wednesdays).

We are still looking for more organisations and institutions willing to 
hold the exhibition--if  there's anyone from the neighbouring (European) 
countries willing to get involved or just looking for some information, 
feel free to approach me at tomasz.kozlowski @ wikimedia.pl.

We hope to have a great event, and even if you can't visit the 
exhibition, please keep your fingers crossed that it goes well, and 
spread the news!

PS For those going to take a peek at the exhibition _in real life_, 
there's also a Facebook event: 
https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=100219446762276.

Regards,
-- 
Tomasz Kozłowski | [[user:odder]]


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Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-11-24 Thread MZMcBride
Andreas K. wrote:
 The way this would work is that each project page would have an Enable
 image filtering entry in the side bar. Clicking on this would add a Hide
 button to each image displayed on the page. Clicking on Hide would then
 grey the image, and automatically add it to the user's personal filter list.

I think this sounds pretty good. Is there any indication how German
Wikipedians generally view an implementation like this? I can't imagine
English Wikipedians caring about an additional sidebar link/opt-in feature
like this.

 Apart from enabling users to hide images and add them to their PFL as they
 encounter them in surfing our projects, users would also be able to edit
 the PFL manually, just as it is possible to edit one's watchlist manually.
 In this way, they could add any image file or category they want to their
 PFL. They could also add filter lists precompiled for them by a third
 party. Such lists could be crowdsourced by people interested in filtering,
 according to whatever cultural criteria they choose.

Some sort of subscription service would work well here, right? Where the
list can auto-update from a central list on a regular basis. I think that's
roughly how in-browser ad block lists work. Seems like it could work well.
Keep who pulls what lists private, though, I suppose.

 For unregistered users, their PFL could be stored in a cookie.

I'm not sure you'd want to put it in a cookie, but that's an implementation
detail.

Watchlist editing is generally based on looking at titles. I don't suppose
you'd want a gallery of hidden images, but it would make filter-list editing
easier, heh.

MZMcBride



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Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-11-24 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 24.11.2011 15:09, schrieb MZMcBride:
 Andreas K. wrote:
 The way this would work is that each project page would have an Enable
 image filtering entry in the side bar. Clicking on this would add a Hide
 button to each image displayed on the page. Clicking on Hide would then
 grey the image, and automatically add it to the user's personal filter list.
 I think this sounds pretty good. Is there any indication how German
 Wikipedians generally view an implementation like this? I can't imagine
 English Wikipedians caring about an additional sidebar link/opt-in feature
 like this.

 Apart from enabling users to hide images and add them to their PFL as they
 encounter them in surfing our projects, users would also be able to edit
 the PFL manually, just as it is possible to edit one's watchlist manually.
 In this way, they could add any image file or category they want to their
 PFL. They could also add filter lists precompiled for them by a third
 party. Such lists could be crowdsourced by people interested in filtering,
 according to whatever cultural criteria they choose.
 Some sort of subscription service would work well here, right? Where the
 list can auto-update from a central list on a regular basis. I think that's
 roughly how in-browser ad block lists work. Seems like it could work well.
 Keep who pulls what lists private, though, I suppose.

 For unregistered users, their PFL could be stored in a cookie.
 I'm not sure you'd want to put it in a cookie, but that's an implementation
 detail.

 Watchlist editing is generally based on looking at titles. I don't suppose
 you'd want a gallery of hidden images, but it would make filter-list editing
 easier, heh.

 MZMcBride



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I'm a little bit confused by this approach. On the one side it is good 
to have this information stored privately and personal, on the other 
side we encouraging the development of filter lists and the tagging of 
possibly objectionable articles. The later wouldn't be private at all 
and even worse then tagging single images. In fact it would be some kind 
of additional force to ban images from articles just to keep them in the 
clean section.

Overall i see little to now advantage over the previously supposed 
solutions. It is much more complicated, harder to implement, more 
resource intensive and not a very friendly interface for readers.

My proposal would be: Just give it up and find other ways to improve 
Wikipedia and to make it more attractive.

nya~

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Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-11-24 Thread David Goodman
Assuming an individual wanted filters, all methods such as this
require them to be aware of whatever they consider to be the
disturbing image(s) before deciding to apply the filter.

In those methods which filter on an image by image basis, this
requirement rather defeats the purpose. The only way it is applicable
is when someone else blocks the images first--presumably a parent, who
thus has the need to identify and read every potentially disturbing
page before their child happens upon it. It is more likely to be
conducive to outsiders providing their prebuilt lists. They have the
right to use what ever we provide, but do we want to provide tools
that decrease actual individual choice and encourage the more
heavy-handed methods of censorship?

This suggestion has one advantage over previous: it goes page by page,
not image by image. In  some cases, this might be realistic, but in
others the user, especially the inexperienced user, will not realize
from the page title what sort of images are likely to be found on it.


On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Tobias Oelgarte
tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am 24.11.2011 15:09, schrieb MZMcBride:
 Andreas K. wrote:
 The way this would work is that each project page would have an Enable
 image filtering entry in the side bar. Clicking on this would add a Hide
 button to each image displayed on the page. Clicking on Hide would then
 grey the image, and automatically add it to the user's personal filter list.
 I think this sounds pretty good. Is there any indication how German
 Wikipedians generally view an implementation like this? I can't imagine
 English Wikipedians caring about an additional sidebar link/opt-in feature
 like this.

 Apart from enabling users to hide images and add them to their PFL as they
 encounter them in surfing our projects, users would also be able to edit
 the PFL manually, just as it is possible to edit one's watchlist manually.
 In this way, they could add any image file or category they want to their
 PFL. They could also add filter lists precompiled for them by a third
 party. Such lists could be crowdsourced by people interested in filtering,
 according to whatever cultural criteria they choose.
 Some sort of subscription service would work well here, right? Where the
 list can auto-update from a central list on a regular basis. I think that's
 roughly how in-browser ad block lists work. Seems like it could work well.
 Keep who pulls what lists private, though, I suppose.

 For unregistered users, their PFL could be stored in a cookie.
 I'm not sure you'd want to put it in a cookie, but that's an implementation
 detail.

 Watchlist editing is generally based on looking at titles. I don't suppose
 you'd want a gallery of hidden images, but it would make filter-list editing
 easier, heh.

 MZMcBride



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 I'm a little bit confused by this approach. On the one side it is good
 to have this information stored privately and personal, on the other
 side we encouraging the development of filter lists and the tagging of
 possibly objectionable articles. The later wouldn't be private at all
 and even worse then tagging single images. In fact it would be some kind
 of additional force to ban images from articles just to keep them in the
 clean section.

 Overall i see little to now advantage over the previously supposed
 solutions. It is much more complicated, harder to implement, more
 resource intensive and not a very friendly interface for readers.

 My proposal would be: Just give it up and find other ways to improve
 Wikipedia and to make it more attractive.

 nya~

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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Poland to start a travelling POTY pictures exhibition in Warsaw (an announcement)

2011-11-24 Thread David Richfield
This is a really nice idea!  I think Wikimedia South Africa should
consider doing something like this to advertise ourselves as soon as
we're incorporated.

-- 
David Richfield
e^(πi)+1=0

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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Poland to start a travelling POTY pictures exhibition in Warsaw (an announcement)

2011-11-24 Thread Liam Wyatt
David - you don't have to wait to be incorporated :-) Feel free to go and
recreate this exhibition, it's free culture after all!

Tomasz - great work. I've always wanted to have my local community art
gallery have a PoTY exhibition and maybe with the photos of your event I
might be able to convince them. Perhaps it is out of the scope of what you
could do this year, but have you thought about using QRpedia codes to link
to the articles about the subject of the photos (so people can read more
about what they are looking at). Perhaps for those images that are created
by Wikimedians (not NASA etc) we could even get a paragraph from the artist
talking about how they got the photo or why they like using Commons. Would
give some nice contextualisation for the pictures :-)

Congrats,
-Liam

wittylama.com/blog
Peace, love  metadata


2011/11/24 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com

 This is a really nice idea!  I think Wikimedia South Africa should
 consider doing something like this to advertise ourselves as soon as
 we're incorporated.

 --
 David Richfield
 e^(πi)+1=0

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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Poland to start a travelling POTY pictures exhibition in Warsaw (an announcement)

2011-11-24 Thread Tomasz Kozłowski
David  Liam -- thank you for your comments and good words, it's 
appreciated!

The idea of QRpedia codes has been suggested to us just a couple of days 
ago by a Wikimedian who will be co-organising the exhibition in Bytom 
(in the south of Poland) in January and I unfortunately forgot about it, 
thanks for reminding me :)

As the photos have already reached Warsaw, I can't add any stickers to 
them myself, but I'll try to sort it out with the library, if possible. 
And I particularly like the idea about the 'interviews' with the 
authors, it sounds really cool! :-)

As for the images of the exhibition, for now we only have 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Picture_of_the_Year_exhibition_-_Pozna%C5%84_2011
 
released under a free licence (there's more unfree photos taken by 
various media photographers, links available off-list); hopefully, there 
will be more coming to the Commons as there are of course some 
Wikimedians from Warsaw going to visit the exhibition.

Regards,
-- 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Google Knol is closing

2011-11-24 Thread Gustavo Carrancio
Please, our main involvement is free knowledge, so, this call is of the
outmost concerns about the things we are devoting to.

This is not a question about competence, but about the value of contents. I
know that Google is one of our benefactors, but I don't think that it will
be difficult to make an agreement in which Google is not presented a looser
counterpart.

So, please, think about contents. We have hired people who can negociate
the best way to do so, but anyway we have targets and we must do our best
to preserve those contents.

2011/11/23 emijrp emi...@gmail.com

 Dear all;

 Knol, the Google project described as a rival to Wikipedia, is closing on
 April 2012. There are many links to Knol from Wikipedia[3] and some of them
 are free. Lot of content will be lost.

 People interested on saving Knol content can join to Archive Team[4] on
 #archiveteam channel on Efnet.

 Regards,
 emijrp

 [1] http://knol.google.com/k
 [2]

 http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/more-spring-cleaning-out-of-season.html
 [3]

 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALinkSearchtarget=http%3A%2F%2Fknol.google.com
 [4] http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Knol
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