[Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Joan Goma
Jan-Bart,

I am sorry. I didn’t know this is your name and present you publicly my
more sincere apologies for misstyping it.

I personally know the sensitivity about this kind of issues. My name in
Catalan sounds completely different with accent than without. “Gomà” is a
quite extended and ancient Catalan surname while “goma” in Catalan means
rubber. I had to get used with this many years ago because in Spanish they
don’t have accents for capital letters that’s how many official documents
are written and more recently because in many computer keywords there is no
way to write à.

I assure you that this mistake has been because I didn’t know and that this
won’t happen never again.

Béria Lima berialima at gmail.com
Thu Feb 16 04:09:27 UTC 2012

Gomà called him Jan at least 3 times today and no one complained.
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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread John Du Hart
Is this really something to get upset over? It's not as if he was calling
you stupid, he simply misspelled your name (shortened it, really).
On Feb 16, 2012 6:10 AM, Joan Goma jrg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jan-Bart,

 I am sorry. I didn’t know this is your name and present you publicly my
 more sincere apologies for misstyping it.

 I personally know the sensitivity about this kind of issues. My name in
 Catalan sounds completely different with accent than without. “Gomà” is a
 quite extended and ancient Catalan surname while “goma” in Catalan means
 rubber. I had to get used with this many years ago because in Spanish they
 don’t have accents for capital letters that’s how many official documents
 are written and more recently because in many computer keywords there is no
 way to write à.

 I assure you that this mistake has been because I didn’t know and that this
 won’t happen never again.

 Béria Lima berialima at gmail.com
 Thu Feb 16 04:09:27 UTC 2012
 
 Gomà called him Jan at least 3 times today and no one complained.
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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 February 2012 11:27, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is this really something to get upset over? It's not as if he was calling
 you stupid, he simply misspelled your name (shortened it, really).


People's own names are extremely important to them.


- d.

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Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 95, Issue 58

2012-02-16 Thread Craig Franklin
Béria,

I was not calling you out as the only person doing this, you just happened
to be the most recent.  Certainly we have a tradition in my country of
shortening names as well (or just adding the suffix -o or -za to them, so
that John becomes Johnno or Barry becomes Bazza), but I would never
presume to call you B or Bério or something like that without first
being invited to do so.  In this case, Jan-Bart has made it abundantly
clear that he prefers to be called Jan-Bart and not some other name, so
we should leave it at that.

Cheers,
Craig


 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:09:27 -0200
 From: B?ria Lima berial...@gmail.com
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 Gom? called him Jan at least 3 times today and no one complained.

 Everyone in Brazil calls me B (yah, just the first letter) and here is
 VERY common to shortening people's  names. Is more a way to write it fast
 than to offend anyone. I can call him Mister de Vreede if you all find this
 ok, but that would be even more condescending (In my country we only threat
 people we really dislike by their last name).
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 On 15 February 2012 23:09, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote:

  I had wanted to keep out of this, but this is the third or fourth time
  that Jan-Bart has been referred to as Jan.  It was an understandable
  enough mistake to make the first time, but it's been pointed out
  enough now that that is no longer an excuse.  We do not all have to be
  best of mates, but it is not unreasonable that we all should show some
  basic courtesy towards each other, and taking the time to get each
  other's names right would be a good start.
 
  If you feel that Jan-Bart is being condescending towards you, the best
  solution to that problem is not more condescension thrown back in the
  opposite direction.
 
  Cheers,
  Craig

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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Sue Gardner
On 16 February 2012 12:32, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 16 February 2012 11:27, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is this really something to get upset over? It's not as if he was calling
 you stupid, he simply misspelled your name (shortened it, really).


 People's own names are extremely important to them.

Very true. When I was in school learning journalism, that was the only
way to get an automatic fail: getting someone's name wrong. (Now I say
that, I guess you also failed if you plagiarized or fabricated. But
getting someone's name wrong was the most seemingly-trivial way to
fail.)

While we're on the topic, here's a public service announcement. It's
Bishakha Datta, not Bishaka Datta. The single most-frequently
misspelled name on our lists, AFAICT. Also, Erik Moeller or Erik
Möller with umlaut. Never Erik Moller with no umlaut :-)

Thanks,
Sue

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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
I find oi, you works pretty well! ;)
On Feb 16, 2012 3:09 PM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 On 16 February 2012 12:32, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 16 February 2012 11:27, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Is this really something to get upset over? It's not as if he was
 calling
  you stupid, he simply misspelled your name (shortened it, really).
 
 
  People's own names are extremely important to them.

 Very true. When I was in school learning journalism, that was the only
 way to get an automatic fail: getting someone's name wrong. (Now I say
 that, I guess you also failed if you plagiarized or fabricated. But
 getting someone's name wrong was the most seemingly-trivial way to
 fail.)

 While we're on the topic, here's a public service announcement. It's
 Bishakha Datta, not Bishaka Datta. The single most-frequently
 misspelled name on our lists, AFAICT. Also, Erik Moeller or Erik
 Möller with umlaut. Never Erik Moller with no umlaut :-)

 Thanks,
 Sue

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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Theo10011
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 While we're on the topic, here's a public service announcement. It's
 Bishakha Datta, not Bishaka Datta. The single most-frequently
 misspelled name on our lists, AFAICT. Also, Erik Moeller or Erik
 Möller with umlaut. Never Erik Moller with no umlaut :-)


Oh cmon we're not going to start using umlauts (exception - heavy metal
umlauts?).

Erik has to settle with having his name misspelled, unless he considers
changing it. ;)
(think of all the time-saving from looking at the alt-key codes for us
non-German keyboard users)

Regards
Theo
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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Feb 16, 2012 3:22 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org
wrote:

  While we're on the topic, here's a public service announcement. It's
  Bishakha Datta, not Bishaka Datta. The single most-frequently
  misspelled name on our lists, AFAICT. Also, Erik Moeller or Erik
  Möller with umlaut. Never Erik Moller with no umlaut :-)


 Oh cmon we're not going to start using umlauts (exception - heavy metal
 umlauts?).

 Erik has to settle with having his name misspelled, unless he considers
 changing it. ;)
 (think of all the time-saving from looking at the alt-key codes for us
 non-German keyboard users)

As Sue said, oe is an accepted way of saying ö if you can't easily get the
umlaut. Using o is just wrong (it would be pronounced completely
differently).
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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Thomas Morton
I used to be really antsy over my name; to the point where, at school, I
refused to be taught by one teach for a time because she kept calling me
Tom. Nowadays even I call myself that.

Surely normal social convention applies; if someone raises the issue then
Don't be a dick and take extra care. Otherwise slip
ups/confusion/mistakes shouldn't be the end of the world...

Tom

(P.S. it now wierds me out when people call me Thomas... go figure :))
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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Oliver Keyes
 Surely normal social convention applies; if someone raises the issue then
 Don't be a dick and take extra care. Otherwise slip
 ups/confusion/mistakes shouldn't be the end of the world...


If we're discussing this; my name is correctly pronounced Oliver Keyes,
God of Delphi, Sol, and all Ethereal Planes Known and As-Yet Undiscovered

(Don't worry if you've got it wrong before; the silent G catches everyone
out)
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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Feb 16, 2012 3:47 PM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com
wrote:

 I used to be really antsy over my name; to the point where, at school, I
 refused to be taught by one teach for a time because she kept calling me
 Tom. Nowadays even I call myself that.

 Surely normal social convention applies; if someone raises the issue then
 Don't be a dick and take extra care. Otherwise slip
 ups/confusion/mistakes shouldn't be the end of the world...

 Tom

 (P.S. it now wierds me out when people call me Thomas... go figure)

I know exactly what you mean! I used to insist on being called Thomas, but
now even introduce myself as Tom.

Wikimedians often call me Thomas because that's what I have gmail set to
call me and they know me mostly from emails. While I don't mind at all, it
sounds (or looks) strange to me every time.
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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Russavia
Moller, Moeller, Möller

Why is it that Горбачёв is Gorbachev, but Семён is always Semyon.

Spare some thought for all the Semyons out there who may have their
name mispelled.


On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Thomas Morton
morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I used to be really antsy over my name; to the point where, at school, I
 refused to be taught by one teach for a time because she kept calling me
 Tom. Nowadays even I call myself that.

 Surely normal social convention applies; if someone raises the issue then
 Don't be a dick and take extra care. Otherwise slip
 ups/confusion/mistakes shouldn't be the end of the world...

 Tom

 (P.S. it now wierds me out when people call me Thomas... go figure :))
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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Carmen

Oliver Keyes wrote:

If we're discussing this; my name is correctly pronounced Oliver Keyes,
God of Delphi, Sol, and all Ethereal Planes Known and As-Yet Undiscovered


OLLIE! OLLIE! OLLIE!

Carmen Yarrusso 



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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Theo10011
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 If we're discussing this; my name is correctly pronounced Oliver Keyes,
 God of Delphi, Sol, and all Ethereal Planes Known and As-Yet Undiscovered


Olly olly oxen free! (with a silent G)

Theo
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Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-16 Thread Béria Lima
No I will not apologize for act according with my culture.

If Mister de Vreede has a problem with people from different cultures he
shouldn't be part of a international movement.

(And besides if someone would complain about misspelling, the Russians,
Arabs, Japanese and Indians should be the ones since no one here can even
write their real names in the original languages)
_
*Béria Lima*

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livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*


On 16 February 2012 03:15, Abbas Mahmood abbas...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Beria,

 You're behavior is simply unacceptable. Are you going to apologize to
 Jan-Bart or simply continue with your baseless justifications on why you
 are calling him this and not that?

 Abbas.

  Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:14:55 -0500
  From: nawr...@gmail.com
  To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012
 
  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Gomà called him Jan at least 3 times today and no one complained.
  
   Everyone in Brazil calls me B (yah, just the first letter) and here
 is
   VERY common to shortening people's  names. Is more a way to write it
 fast
   than to offend anyone. I can call him Mister de Vreede if you all find
 this
   ok, but that would be even more condescending (In my country we only
 threat
   people we really dislike by their last name).
   _
   *Béria Lima*
  
  
  Jan-Bart and others have asked that you call him Jan-Bart. What part of
  that is confusing? You can ascribe your first error to different custom;
  continuing to ignore his wishes is simply arrogant and offensive, which
 of
  course I'm sure is not your intent.
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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Sue Gardner
On 16 February 2012 17:04, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Feb 16, 2012 3:47 PM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com

 Wikimedians often call me Thomas because that's what I have gmail set to
 call me and they know me mostly from emails. While I don't mind at all, it
 sounds (or looks) strange to me every time.

LOL, I was thinking exactly that as I read Tom Morton's note. I
*always* call you Thomas. And although I try, I have difficulty
calling Michael Peel Mike. I do however correctly address James
Forrester, in person, as Jimbo.

And -- in the event the OP is still here, Joan Gomà, how are you
properly addressed in person? I have heard people say things like
When does Gomà arrive in Paris and I have also been using that. But
you should presumably be addressed as Joan -- and presumably with the
J sound pronounced as a Y?

Thanks,
Sue

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Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Agreed.  As one of those whose name is frequently butchered due to our
medium of communications (who knows how I want it pronounced until/unless
you meet me or someone who's met me?), the criteria I use in judging
offense is Has this person ever been told by me how I prefer to be
addressed?  If not, then see step 1.  If so, a mild reminder is in order.
The mild reminders tend to escalate.  After the point of reminder, common
courtesy dictates extra care on the part of the person referring to you.
My friend Aphaia did this very kindly with me years ago, and I have never
gotten it wrong since, to my knowledge.

An exception:  I'll be damned if I'm writing out Oliver Keyes, God of
Delphi, Sol, and all Ethereal Planes Known and As-Yet Undiscovered because
I won't grant - in writing - my own claims to those ethereal planes. :-)

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On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 I used to be really antsy over my name; to the point where, at school, I
 refused to be taught by one teach for a time because she kept calling me
 Tom. Nowadays even I call myself that.

 Surely normal social convention applies; if someone raises the issue then
 Don't be a dick and take extra care. Otherwise slip
 ups/confusion/mistakes shouldn't be the end of the world...

 Tom

 (P.S. it now wierds me out when people call me Thomas... go figure :))
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Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-16 Thread Abbas Mahmood

 From: berial...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:52:24 -0200
 To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

 (And besides if someone would complain about misspelling, the Russians,
 Arabs, Japanese and Indians should be the ones since no one here can even
 write their real names in the original languages)

No one? Really? My name is an Arabic name and even though I'm not an Arab, I 
can write Arabic names perfectly well. Your assumption is merely stereotypical.
--Abbas.  
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Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-16 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 No I will not apologize for act according with my culture.

 If Mister de Vreede has a problem with people from different cultures he
 shouldn't be part of a international movement.

 (And besides if someone would complain about misspelling, the Russians,
 Arabs, Japanese and Indians should be the ones since no one here can even
 write their real names in the original languages)


It's incredible that such a childish debate has to occur. I suggest that if
you refuse to refrain from intentionally offending other list participants,
your privilege to post should be revoked.
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[Foundation-l] Wikipedia Articles In Uzbek Blocked

2012-02-16 Thread Fred Bauder
http://www.rferl.org/content/uzbek_wikipedia_blocked/24486460.html


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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Articles In Uzbek Blocked

2012-02-16 Thread Russavia
Quite unusual, because I have just checked with two online contacts of
mine who are in Uzbekistan, and both are able to access
http://uz.wikipedia.org via their Uzbek ISPs without use of proxys,
etc, etc.



On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
 http://www.rferl.org/content/uzbek_wikipedia_blocked/24486460.html


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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Articles In Uzbek Blocked

2012-02-16 Thread Denny Vrandecic
My Uzbek contacts say that uz.wp was blocked since August 2011. I was in 
Tashkent in December (and gave a talk on Wikipedia in Tashkent), and I can 
confirm from first hand that uz.wp was redirecting to msn.com in December.

I thought that the blocking of the Uzbek Wikipedia in Uzbekistan was common 
knowledge?




On Feb 16, 2012, at 21:52, Russavia wrote:

 Quite unusual, because I have just checked with two online contacts of
 mine who are in Uzbekistan, and both are able to access
 http://uz.wikipedia.org via their Uzbek ISPs without use of proxys,
 etc, etc.
 
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
 http://www.rferl.org/content/uzbek_wikipedia_blocked/24486460.html
 
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-16 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 17:52, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
 No I will not apologize for act according with my culture.

 If Mister de Vreede has a problem with people from different cultures he
 shouldn't be part of a international movement.

 (And besides if someone would complain about misspelling, the Russians,
 Arabs, Japanese and Indians should be the ones since no one here can even
 write their real names in the original languages)

While I sympathize with your position (if not derogatory, I think that
any name is acceptable while it denominates the person clearly), you
should accept it as-is. (At the other side, I don't think that
cultural misunderstandings should be fixed by apologizing. Here. Beria
simply doesn't understand where the problem is.)

I wouldn't comment Jan-Bart's wish, but I have comparable position
toward usage of particular words: If email in my inbox begins with
Dear Milos (especially in Serbian) by a person not so close to me, I
would treat it as over-formal tone. (One of my friends sends such
emails to trash automatically.) I would automatically have negative
attitude toward that person. There are a couple of other wrong
beginnings of email if someone wants my [positive] attention. Dear
Sir (literally in Serbian Respected Mister) is worse than Dear
Milos, for example.

But, particular rule has different meaning in particular
circumstances. For example, if one French or American starts email
with Dear Milos, I would treat it as their cultural characteristic
and I wouldn't have such negative attitude as if I heard it from one
Serbian. If I get it from you, Beria, I would ask you if everything is
OK with you. If I get a genuine email from one person from Sub-Saharan
Africa email with Dear Sir, I wouldn't complain about it, as I would
assume that it's his or her best attempt to be polite. If I get it
from you, I would think that your email account has been hijacked by
spammers.

Note that I don't care a lot about words and that I wouldn't complain,
but just make my position toward the person which sent email to me.
Some people, culturally or personally, have stronger emotions toward
naming conventions. Which means that the safest method for using
particular words in communication with someone is to ask that person.

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[Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
Hi,

Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
(except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.

More details are available here: http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en

The closing date for applications is March 9.

Regards,


-- 
Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz

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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Mateus Nobre

Don't you accept a brazilian from these hot lands of South America? hahahah ;p

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 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:29:17 +0100
 From: polime...@gmail.com
 To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program
 
 Hi,
 
 Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
 programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
 Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
 Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
 scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
 which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
 World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
 reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
 Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
 (except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
 covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.
 
 More details are available here: 
 http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en
 
 The closing date for applications is March 9.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 -- 
 Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
 http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
 http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
 http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Béria Lima
You joking right? Our economy is better than UK one  (or so they say), I
don't even want to compare with Polish one :D
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On 16 February 2012 21:32, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:


 Don't you accept a brazilian from these hot lands of South America?
 hahahah ;p

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  Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:29:17 +0100
  From: polime...@gmail.com
  To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program
 
  Hi,
 
  Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
  programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
  Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
  Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
  scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
  which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
  World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
  reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
  Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
  (except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
  covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.
 
  More details are available here:
 http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en
 
  The closing date for applications is March 9.
 
  Regards,
 
 
  --
  Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
  http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
  http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
  http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Mateus Nobre

They're talking about per capita, which is like two hundred dollars below the 
polish one.

Ai ai, Beria :P

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 From: berial...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:33:47 -0200
 To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program
 
 You joking right? Our economy is better than UK one  (or so they say), I
 don't even want to compare with Polish one :D
 _
 *Béria Lima*
 
 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
 construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*
 
 
 On 16 February 2012 21:32, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:
 
 
  Don't you accept a brazilian from these hot lands of South America?
  hahahah ;p
 
  Greetings,
 
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   Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:29:17 +0100
   From: polime...@gmail.com
   To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
   Subject: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program
  
   Hi,
  
   Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
   programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
   Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
   Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
   scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
   which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
   World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
   reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
   Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
   (except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
   covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.
  
   More details are available here:
  http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en
  
   The closing date for applications is March 9.
  
   Regards,
  
  
   --
   Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
   http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
   http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
   http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz
  
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Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-16 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jan-Bart and others have asked that you call him Jan-Bart. What part of
 that is confusing? You can ascribe your first error to different custom;
 continuing to ignore his wishes is simply arrogant and offensive, which of
 course I'm sure is not your intent.

In case of problem I may give you any freedom to mispell my name and
my surname as many time you want, if this helps to stop here any
further discussion around a name.

I am experienced about that and I live already in a conflict of identity.

I may offer myself like punchball of the mispelled name.

Ilario aka Illario (mainly for German speakers) aka Ilarion aka Flavio
aka Florio aka Ilaria aka Lario
Valdelli aka Vandelli aka Baldelli aka Valdella aka Valdell

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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Béria Lima
You mean 3 thousand right?

Brazil: 9,390
Poland: 12,440

Source: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GNP.PCAP.CD
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On 16 February 2012 21:35, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:


 They're talking about per capita, which is like two hundred dollars below
 the polish one.

 Ai ai, Beria :P

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  From: berial...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:33:47 -0200
  To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program
 
  You joking right? Our economy is better than UK one  (or so they say), I
  don't even want to compare with Polish one :D
  _
  *Béria Lima*
 
  *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
  livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
  construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*
 
 
  On 16 February 2012 21:32, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:
 
  
   Don't you accept a brazilian from these hot lands of South America?
   hahahah ;p
  
   Greetings,
  
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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:29:17 +0100
From: polime...@gmail.com
To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program
   
Hi,
   
Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
(except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.
   
More details are available here:
   http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en
   
The closing date for applications is March 9.
   
Regards,
   
   
--
Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz
   
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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Russavia
Hi Tomasz

It also wouldn't include Russia by the looks of it, given that
Russians are apparently 4 bottles of vodka a year richer than Poles ;)



On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
 programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
 Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
 Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
 scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
 which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
 World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
 reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
 Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
 (except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
 covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.

 More details are available here: 
 http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en

 The closing date for applications is March 9.

 Regards,


 --
 Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
 http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
 http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
 http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz

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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Mateus Nobre

Close enough, Beria. Everyone already saw. haha :P

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 From: berial...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:41:06 -0200
 To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program
 
 You mean 3 thousand right?
 
 Brazil: 9,390
 Poland: 12,440
 
 Source: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GNP.PCAP.CD
 _
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 http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
 
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 On 16 February 2012 21:35, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:
 
 
  They're talking about per capita, which is like two hundred dollars below
  the polish one.
 
  Ai ai, Beria :P
 
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   From: berial...@gmail.com
   Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:33:47 -0200
   To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
   Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program
  
   You joking right? Our economy is better than UK one  (or so they say), I
   don't even want to compare with Polish one :D
   _
   *Béria Lima*
  
   *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
   livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
   construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*
  
  
   On 16 February 2012 21:32, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:
  
   
Don't you accept a brazilian from these hot lands of South America?
hahahah ;p
   
Greetings,
   
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 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:29:17 +0100
 From: polime...@gmail.com
 To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

 Hi,

 Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
 programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
 Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
 Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
 scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
 which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
 World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
 reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
 Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
 (except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
 covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.

 More details are available here:
http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en

 The closing date for applications is March 9.

 Regards,


 --
 Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
 http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
 http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
 http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz

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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Béria Lima
Actually I believe the Poles stole your vodka, Russavia, because yor GNI
per capita is only 9,900  :P
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On 16 February 2012 21:42, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tomasz

 It also wouldn't include Russia by the looks of it, given that
 Russians are apparently 4 bottles of vodka a year richer than Poles ;)



 On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
  programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
  Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
  Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
  scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
  which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
  World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
  reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
  Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
  (except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
  covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.
 
  More details are available here:
 http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en
 
  The closing date for applications is March 9.
 
  Regards,
 
 
  --
  Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
  http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
  http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
  http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Russavia
Beria, there are two lessons to be learnt here.

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
-- Wikipedia is obviously not to be used as a reliable source,
especially for facetious comments.
2) Re: vodka - 
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429547_2604401508972_1222894747_32310964_1084040106_n.jpg


On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually I believe the Poles stole your vodka, Russavia, because yor GNI
 per capita is only 9,900  :P
 _
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  http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

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 On 16 February 2012 21:42, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tomasz

 It also wouldn't include Russia by the looks of it, given that
 Russians are apparently 4 bottles of vodka a year richer than Poles ;)



 On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
  programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
  Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
  Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
  scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
  which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
  World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
  reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
  Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
  (except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
  covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.
 
  More details are available here:
 http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en
 
  The closing date for applications is March 9.
 
  Regards,
 
 
  --
  Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
  http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
  http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
  http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Béria Lima
Bah, Wikipedia is the best thing in the world, the problem in this case is
between the chair and the screen ;)

You looking at the wrong place, the right one is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GNI_%28nominal,_Atlas_method%29_per_capita

And regarding Vodka, the only lesson is: Beware the Finns! ;D
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On 16 February 2012 21:54, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Beria, there are two lessons to be learnt here.

 1)
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
 -- Wikipedia is obviously not to be used as a reliable source,
 especially for facetious comments.
 2) Re: vodka -
 http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429547_2604401508972_1222894747_32310964_1084040106_n.jpg


 On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
  Actually I believe the Poles stole your vodka, Russavia, because yor GNI
  per capita is only 9,900  :P
  _
  *Béria Lima*
   http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
 
  *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
  livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
  construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*
 
 
  On 16 February 2012 21:42, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Tomasz
 
  It also wouldn't include Russia by the looks of it, given that
  Russians are apparently 4 bottles of vodka a year richer than Poles ;)
 
 
 
  On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
   programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
   Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
   Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
   scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
   which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
   World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
   reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
   Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
   (except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
   covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.
  
   More details are available here:
  http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en
  
   The closing date for applications is March 9.
  
   Regards,
  
  
   --
   Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
   http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
   http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
   http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz
  
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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Mateus Nobre

I always thought mother Russia the really inventor of vodka :(

Hahaha, even the list of Wikimedia FOundation teach me new stuff! The next shot 
of Vodka I drink will be ''to Poland!''

Greetings from cachaça land, 

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 From: russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:54:22 +0800
 To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program
 
 Beria, there are two lessons to be learnt here.
 
 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
 -- Wikipedia is obviously not to be used as a reliable source,
 especially for facetious comments.
 2) Re: vodka - 
 http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429547_2604401508972_1222894747_32310964_1084040106_n.jpg
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
  Actually I believe the Poles stole your vodka, Russavia, because yor GNI
  per capita is only 9,900  :P
  _
  *Béria Lima*
   http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
 
  *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
  livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
  construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*
 
 
  On 16 February 2012 21:42, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Tomasz
 
  It also wouldn't include Russia by the looks of it, given that
  Russians are apparently 4 bottles of vodka a year richer than Poles ;)
 
 
 
  On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
   programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
   Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
   Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
   scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
   which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
   World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
   reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
   Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
   (except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
   covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.
  
   More details are available here:
  http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en
  
   The closing date for applications is March 9.
  
   Regards,
  
  
   --
   Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
   http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
   http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
   http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz
  
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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Russavia
Hi Brazilball

yes, indeed, you do learn new things every day on this list.

For example, this has just come to my attention

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/190/348/1319406261001.png

My next flight, i'll thank good ol' USA ingenuity and foresight :)



On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:

 I always thought mother Russia the really inventor of vodka :(

 Hahaha, even the list of Wikimedia FOundation teach me new stuff! The next 
 shot of Vodka I drink will be ''to Poland!''

 Greetings from cachaça land,

 _
 MateusNobre
 MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
 (+55) 85 88393509
              30440865


 From: russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:54:22 +0800
 To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

 Beria, there are two lessons to be learnt here.

 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
 -- Wikipedia is obviously not to be used as a reliable source,
 especially for facetious comments.
 2) Re: vodka - 
 http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429547_2604401508972_1222894747_32310964_1084040106_n.jpg


 On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
  Actually I believe the Poles stole your vodka, Russavia, because yor GNI
  per capita is only 9,900  :P
  _
  *Béria Lima*
   http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
 
  *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
  livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
  construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*
 
 
  On 16 February 2012 21:42, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Tomasz
 
  It also wouldn't include Russia by the looks of it, given that
  Russians are apparently 4 bottles of vodka a year richer than Poles ;)
 
 
 
  On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
   programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
   Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
   Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
   scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
   which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
   World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
   reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
   Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
   (except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
   covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.
  
   More details are available here:
  http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en
  
   The closing date for applications is March 9.
  
   Regards,
  
  
   --
   Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
   http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
   http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
   http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz
  
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Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 95, Issue 61

2012-02-16 Thread Joan Goma
 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:12:46 +0100
 From: Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org


 And -- in the event the OP is still here, Joan Gom?, how are you
 properly addressed in person? I have heard people say things like
 When does Gom? arrive in Paris and I have also been using that. But
 you should presumably be addressed as Joan -- and presumably with the
 J sound pronounced as a Y?

 Thanks,
 Sue



Well I am a bit ashamed by all this attentions to this off topic issue. I
am used to many changes in my name but if you are curious this is the idea:

It is indifferent to use the name or surname. In Catalan it is much more
common to use the surname even among friends because the names are repeated
a lot but either is correct and usual.

J in Catalan is pronounced exactly the same as in English. It is
perfectly correct to pronounce Joan as in English. It sounds like if you
came from Valencia. In Barcelona it is pronounced Jooan the “o” sounds like
“oo” in book.
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Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program

2012-02-16 Thread Mateus Nobre

This is sooo true, Russavia!

Santos Dumont FTW, national hero.

p.s.: Nice gags, BTW :p

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 From: russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:35:15 +0800
 To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program
 
 Hi Brazilball
 
 yes, indeed, you do learn new things every day on this list.
 
 For example, this has just come to my attention
 
 http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/190/348/1319406261001.png
 
 My next flight, i'll thank good ol' USA ingenuity and foresight :)
 
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote:
 
  I always thought mother Russia the really inventor of vodka :(
 
  Hahaha, even the list of Wikimedia FOundation teach me new stuff! The next 
  shot of Vodka I drink will be ''to Poland!''
 
  Greetings from cachaça land,
 
  _
  MateusNobre
  MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
  (+55) 85 88393509
   30440865
 
 
  From: russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com
  Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:54:22 +0800
  To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Polish Wikimania scholarship program
 
  Beria, there are two lessons to be learnt here.
 
  1) 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
  -- Wikipedia is obviously not to be used as a reliable source,
  especially for facetious comments.
  2) Re: vodka - 
  http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429547_2604401508972_1222894747_32310964_1084040106_n.jpg
 
 
  On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
   Actually I believe the Poles stole your vodka, Russavia, because yor GNI
   per capita is only 9,900  :P
   _
   *Béria Lima*
http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
  
   *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
   livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
   construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*
  
  
   On 16 February 2012 21:42, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hi Tomasz
  
   It also wouldn't include Russia by the looks of it, given that
   Russians are apparently 4 bottles of vodka a year richer than Poles ;)
  
  
  
   On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com
   wrote:
Hi,
   
Wikimedia Polska (Poland) has just launched its own scholarships
programme for Wikimedians willing to attend Wikimania 2012 in
Washington, D.C. This year, apart from up to 10 scholarships for
Wikimedians from Poland, we are also going to grant up to 6
scholarships for Wikimedians from other countries. Only countries
which have lower national income per capita than Poland (according to
World Bank 2010 stats) are eligible. We are particularly willing to
reach out to the Wikimedians from the former USSR countries (except
Estonia, which doesn't meet the income criteria) and from the Balkans
(except Greece and Slovenia, for the same reason). The scholarship
covers travel and accommodation expenses, as well as conference fee.
   
More details are available here:
   http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/en
   
The closing date for applications is March 9.
   
Regards,
   
   
--
Tomek Polimerek Ganicz
http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz
   
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