Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 95, Issue 58

2012-02-16 Thread Craig Franklin
Béria,

I was not calling you out as the only person doing this, you just happened
to be the most recent.  Certainly we have a tradition in my country of
shortening names as well (or just adding the suffix -o or -za to them, so
that John becomes Johnno or Barry becomes Bazza), but I would never
presume to call you B or Bério or something like that without first
being invited to do so.  In this case, Jan-Bart has made it abundantly
clear that he prefers to be called Jan-Bart and not some other name, so
we should leave it at that.

Cheers,
Craig


 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:09:27 -0200
 From: B?ria Lima berial...@gmail.com
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 Gom? called him Jan at least 3 times today and no one complained.

 Everyone in Brazil calls me B (yah, just the first letter) and here is
 VERY common to shortening people's  names. Is more a way to write it fast
 than to offend anyone. I can call him Mister de Vreede if you all find this
 ok, but that would be even more condescending (In my country we only threat
 people we really dislike by their last name).
 _
 *B?ria Lima*

 *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
 construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*


 On 15 February 2012 23:09, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote:

  I had wanted to keep out of this, but this is the third or fourth time
  that Jan-Bart has been referred to as Jan.  It was an understandable
  enough mistake to make the first time, but it's been pointed out
  enough now that that is no longer an excuse.  We do not all have to be
  best of mates, but it is not unreasonable that we all should show some
  basic courtesy towards each other, and taking the time to get each
  other's names right would be a good start.
 
  If you feel that Jan-Bart is being condescending towards you, the best
  solution to that problem is not more condescension thrown back in the
  opposite direction.
 
  Cheers,
  Craig

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Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-15 Thread Craig Franklin
I had wanted to keep out of this, but this is the third or fourth time
that Jan-Bart has been referred to as Jan.  It was an understandable
enough mistake to make the first time, but it's been pointed out
enough now that that is no longer an excuse.  We do not all have to be
best of mates, but it is not unreasonable that we all should show some
basic courtesy towards each other, and taking the time to get each
other's names right would be a good start.

If you feel that Jan-Bart is being condescending towards you, the best
solution to that problem is not more condescension thrown back in the
opposite direction.

Cheers,
Craig

 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:07:23 -0200
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 Jan

 Provide me a link to work and I will gladly tell on wiki how much your idea
 sucks and how I come up with a better one without dismiss community opinion
 and being condescending like you.

 Here we can't solve anything.
 _
 *B?ria Lima

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Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department Promotion of Philippe Beaudette

2012-02-10 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi All,

Firstly, congratulations to Phillipe on a very richly deserved promotion!
 I'm sure that you will do very well in your new role.

However, I must concur with Lodewijk in stating that the idea behind the
new department is still not entirely clear to me.  It's not about advocacy
and lobbying (except when it is), but I'm not sure what else it is supposed
to do or why it's organisationally near the legal department?  If the
purpose is primarily to advocate on behalf of the community internally
within WMF, would that be because you feel that the voice of the community
has not been heard clearly in the Foundation previously?  If so, this is a
step forward but it's regrettable that input from the community hasn't been
something that's been institutionally considered in the past.

Cheers,
Craig




 From: Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org
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 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement:
Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department  Promotion
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 Hi Philippe,

 it sounds great. Awesome. But still, it doesn't make much sense to me,
 sorry.

 Saying people can 'edit' is of course bound to cheer people up - but if you
 don't understand *what* you're editing, it is also bound to either become a
 mess, or either just become what you pick it to become. I can't suggest
 changes to team or actions if I am unable to grasp behind the very broadly
 stated goals. Right now it is clear who is in the team, but honestly I
 don't know you guys well enough to derive from that what you should be
 doing.

 Lodewijk


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Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread Craig Franklin
 Message: 7
 Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 01:25:33 +0400
 From: Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions
        Shutting Down
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 On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 22:13:58 +0100, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/1/7 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com

 On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote:

  The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000
  artifacts.
  Any National Cultural Institution closing is a disaster.

 Yes, it is. So what's the game plan?


 I'm not sure. If the WMF goals are to collect/preserve/disseminate
 educational content, they can start with the holdings in endangered
 cultural institutions. It is not my work, but some suggestions, from low
 to
 high involvement:

 * blog post exposing the events
 * a call to the museums, showing that we are concerned
 * offering wikimedia projects to host any materials they want to give
 * marathon to create related articles
 * organize a Wiki Invades... to take photos and notes of the
 collections
 * wikipedian in residence and put some money to fund some activities
 * any other high profile partnership

 And read international news related to our long-term goals.

 Regards,
 emijrp

 May be checking with WM Serbia (I am not sure they can do anything, but it
 would be good to know) and leaving a message on Serbian Wikipedia asking
 for advise/clarification/actions. Everybody can leave this message, but
 probably the most efficient would be to find someone who speaks Serbian.

 Cheers
 Yaroslav

I might just be a crypto-American chauvinist (and really, that sort of
inflammatory message is completely unnecessary on this list), so I
apologise for any ignorance on the situation, but would Wikimedia
Serbia really be the best organisation to help out here.  My
understanding is that Bosnia-Serbia relations are still very...
delicate... and a Serbian organisation coming in to help out with
Bosnian cultural artefacts, no matter how well meaning, might not get
the most enthusiastic of receptions.

Cheers,
Craig

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Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors

2012-01-03 Thread Craig Franklin
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 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:08:12 -0800
 From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors
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 On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:53 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote:
 The fundraiser for money has been working exceedingly well with our
 number of donors increasing 10 fold since 2008. What we need now is a
 fundraiser for editors. I meet well educated professionals who use
 Wikipedia but have no ideas that they can edit it. We need to run a
 banner with the same energy we use to raise money to raise editor
 numbers. This idea has been trialed to a limited extent here
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Invitation_to_edit but the
 effort did not have sufficient data crunching behind it to determine
 if it works.

 James,

 thanks for this note! The problem, as I see it, is that we know that
 new editors, once they attempt to make their first edit, hit an
 enormous number of barriers. Even if they master mark-up (which is a
 big IF), they're likely to fail when their edits get reverted due to
 lack of proper citations or other issues.

I'd just like to echo this.  As part of Wikimedia Australia's outreach
programmes, I've done more than a few academies, and once we get them
to write their articles initially in the user space, the #1 problem by
far we encounter is difficulty with the markup and editing interface.
One comment that I received (from a PhD, no less) was along the lines
of Wow, this is a throwback, like editing text in the old MS-DOS
days.

I keep an enthusiastic eye out for the WYSIWYG editor, and it does
look like it's bubbling along quite nicely.  It won't solve all of the
problems, but I think that once it is complete and implemented, we
will see an increase in the retention rates of editors, particularly
editors who are not traditionally considered to be computer power
users, or who have not had the benefit of growing up with this sort of
technology.

Regards,
Craig Franklin

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Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 93, Issue 61

2011-12-31 Thread Craig Franklin
 Message: 1
 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:52:03 +0100
 From: Jan Ku?era kozuc...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia's secret wikis
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 I see following wikis hold secred information:

 http://internal.wikimedia.org
 http://office.wikimedia.org
 http://board.wikimedia.org

 Imagine a world in which every single human being can NOT freely share in
 the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment.


Having access to some of these secret Wikis, let me assure you that
the content of most of them is banal, dull, and there are no juicy
chunks of conspiratorial information in there.  But they also contain
the sort of information that can't go into the public sphere, such as
private contact details and other information.

But then again, I suppose that's just what I *would* say, right?

Cheers,
Craig Franklin

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Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-29 Thread Craig Franklin
Personally, I find the whole WikiLove extension to be a bit naff and
schmaltzy.  I'm generally not thrilled when I get a WikiLove kitten or
anything, just like I'm not touched that my local member of Parliament has
thought to send me a form letter about how hard they're working for me.
 It's harmless enough though, I just choose to ignore it.

With that said though, if a particular project community decides they don't
want it, why should it be forced upon them?  I think this principle should
apply to *all* extensions, not just harmless or global improvement ones.

Cheers,
Craig


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 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:57:25 +0300


 From: Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk


 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove


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   Etienne,



Why any Wikipedia would not want the Wikilove feature?



This is inconsistent for me. Wikilove's a global improvement, there's no
reason to disagree improvements.



_


MateusNobre


Wikimedia Brasil - MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects


(+55) 85 88393509


 30440865




 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:31:24 -0300


 From: betie...@bellaliant.net


 To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org


 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove





 But if we enable it at a wiki that doesn't want it, there could be a


 boycott, and vandals just get the place up to there code.  It would be


 very detrimental to wikipedia.








 On 11-10-29 12:27 PM, Nickanc Wikipedia nickanc.w...@gmail.com wrote:





  IMHO, Wikilove is something so important about wikipedia's ethics and


  behaviour that shall be in every wiki. IMHO.


 


  2011/10/29 WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com:


  Message: 1


  Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:31:07 -0700


  From: Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org


  Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered,


 foolish software initiatives backed by WMF


  To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org


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  On 10/28/11 3:27 PM, Etienne Beaule wrote:


  It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems.


 


 


 Oh? I wasn't aware that it had been disabled anywhere as yet.


 


 WikiLove was not rolled out en mass; the policy for
deployment of


  the


  tool is that it is by request only, and the requesting wiki must:


 


 a) Make sure the tool is localized (via TranslateWiki);


 b) Make sure they have a local configuration; and


 c) Show community consensus.


 


 So if it was enabled and then *disabled*, I have not heard of
this.


   Is


  there a bug report I can look to?  Or if you know of a wiki where this


  is the case, I can do a search.


 


 Thanks!


 


 -b.


 


 


  --


  Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation


 


  Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate


 


 


  Good to hear that wikilove is only going in on wikis where there is


  consensus for it. Can anyone give me a link to the discussion that


  established consensus on EN wikipedia? The nearest I could find was


 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28miscellaneous%29/Archi


  ve_33#Thoughts_on_WikiLove.3F


 


  Ta


 


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Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-05 Thread Craig Franklin
 Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 13:58:51 -0700
 From: Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia
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 The Wikimedia Foundation first heard about this a few hours ago: we don't
 have a lot of details yet. Jay is gathering information and working on a
 statement now.

 It seems obvious though that the proposed law would hurt freedom of
 expression in Italy, and therefore it's entirely reasonable for the Italian
 Wikipedians to oppose it. The Wikimedia Foundation will support their
 position.

 The question of whether blocking access to Wikipedia is the best possible
 way to draw people's attention to this issue is of course open for debate
 and reasonable people can disagree. My understanding is that the decision
 was taken via a good community process. Regardless, what's done is done,
 for
 the moment.

 Thanks,
 Sue


Of late I've often round reasons to be critical of the choices the WMF has
made, but in this case you've made the best choice possible - supporting the
community on it.wikipedia in a decision that they've come to as a group,
even though that decision is controversial in some places.  Bravo Sue, and
Bravo WMF.

Cheers,
Craig
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Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 90, Issue 121

2011-09-21 Thread Craig Franklin
I'd caution against putting too much faith in those raw numbers without a
clear understanding of what they mean.  They can make sense comparing
different language editions of the same project, but comparing different
projects is apples and oranges.  For instance, some months ago I was doing
some research and I found that for Wikisource it doesn't count the Page
and Index namespaces as articles, even though that's where the bulk of
the content generation is taking place these days.

This might have since been fixed, and I'm sure that you (Phillipe) are aware
of it, I just wanted to jump in before someone started complaining that
Wikinews is only a certain unimpressive %age of where Wikipedia was at the
same point.

Cheers,
Craig

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 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:49:01 -0700
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 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying?
Really?
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 Usage statistics alone, I would agree with you.

 But stats can tell so much more than just what you get from usage stats.
  For instance:
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikinews/EN/ChartsWikipediaEN.htm   (be
 sure to scroll all the way to the right).
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 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net
 wrote:

  On 09/20/11 10:11 PM, ?? wrote:
   Certain projects are bound to loose active contributors. Projects like
   Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wikispecies or even Wiktionary do not have the
  same
   growth curve as a general purpose encyclopedia. These tools have
 serious
   competition as well. Statistically looking at numbers is unwise unless
  you
   are going to look at it with a perspective. This is not to say these
   projects are without problem, but that doesn't mean the wikis are
  failures.
  
  
  This is all very true. The important thing is to keep focused on your
  own project.  If you look at competing projects, rather than looking at
  their usage statistics, a better question is What are they failing to
  do that you could do better?
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 90, Issue 23

2011-09-05 Thread Craig Franklin
Let me again say that it's great that the foundation actually asked editors
what they thought.  Clearly the actual design of the survey left much to be
desired - people wanted a question along the lines of is this filter a good
idea (y/n), and didn't get one.  I'm a bit disappointed that for as major a
change in direction as this, ten trustees decided it was such a good idea
that they didn't need to ask the community if they agreed; only for some
details as to the scope of the technical tool.  I think this is why we got
the worst of all possible results; a stalemate with no clear answer one way
or the other.

Anyway, I'd like to see some of the trustees weighing in with their thoughts
on the results of this referendum, since it's clear that we can argue until
the sun goes dark but our opinions mean precisely nought with regards to the
question of whether an image filter should be implemented.

Cheers,
Craig



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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

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On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
wrote:



 That's only true if there is general agreement that the feature would be

 nice to have and there is just a question of whether it is worth the
effort.

 That it not the case here.


The referendum was pretty clearly predicated on the basis that the

feature was going forward:


The Board of Trustees has directed the Wikimedia Foundation to

develop and implement a personal image hiding feature.


[The referendum was held] to gather more input in to the development

and usage of an opt-in personal image hiding feature.


And from the resolution:


We ask the Executive Director, in consultation with the community, to

develop and implement a personal image hiding feature...


(not We ask the Executive Director, so long as the

can't-recognise-the-irony-in-fighting-censorship-by-stopping-people-choosing-what-they-want-to-see

crowd gives their blessing, to develop and implement...)


The questions are all relating to the development of the feature, save

for the 'culturally neutral' question: the first is about how to

prioritise it, and the others are about setting out the specs for the

feature.


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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Craig Franklin

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Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 22:43:35 +0200

From: Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

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On 02.09.2011 22:02, Michael Snow wrote:



 For those reading whose memories may not be quite long enough - I assume

 Florence is referring to Michael Davis here, not to me. The conflict of

 interest policy was adopted in 2006, before I was on the board. I just

 thought it would help to make the distinction explicit, as it wouldn't

 be the first time somebody has gotten us confused.



 Meanwhile, on the subject of mutual board appointments between chapters

 and the foundation, I figured I'd chime in as I helped push the idea for

 chapters to select foundation board members in the first place. For one

 thing, there's a very different power dynamic between the chapters

 collectively choosing a couple members of the foundation's board, and

 the foundation solely choosing a member of an individual chapter's

 board. The chapter-appointed seats cannot really be controlled outside

 of the selection process itself, so those board members can act as

 freely as their colleagues, and certainly no single chapter can force

 them to act in a particular way. This is partly by design, since the

 ultimate fiduciary obligations of those board members are still to the

 foundation rather than a chapter, and is why we emphasized that they are

 not necessarily being selected as representatives of the chapters.

 However, somebody appointed to a chapter board by the foundation would

 be directly answerable to the foundation, and it could be fairly easy to

 argue that they are an agent of the foundation. It undermines the

 organizational independence much more dramatically.



 If the point is to improve communication, then a more practical approach

 might be to designate observers who are not given authority but merely

 sit in with a chapter board. That's assuming that the chapter board

 level is one of the places where it makes the most sense to add a

 communication interface.



 --Michael Snow


It would have been sufficient to have some members that understand how

chapters work.


Every time I read some comments of WMF, I am really astonished that they

don't know the basis of the organization of the chapters.


I am really disturbed that every time WMF forget that a chapter is based

on bylaws and on General Assembly.


You make the assumption that it is the board of any chapter to take the

decisions, you forget (but is seems to be usual in WMF) that any

decision of the chapters board can be changed by the General Assembly

and that the board reports to the General Assembly who approves every

year the projects and the budget and the financial year. This is not a

choice of the chapters, but this is the legal consequence connected with

the local legal system (in Switzerland it's the Civil Code art.60).


The chapter is not the WMF where the board send out a letter, the

executive team makes an interpretation of the letter and the other

groups do what they have decided. The local chapter is based on the

General Assembly.


It means that, to improve the communication, no one must seat in the

board, it is sufficient to participate in the discussion of the General

Assembly and it would be better to speak the local language to answer to

the members questions. The board will do what the General Assembly decides.


In the other hand what I really suggest is that the chapters MUST select

their WMF board members like representatives to fill up the gaps that

WMF has.


The problem of communication that WMF has, it's basically the lacking

knowledge of the chapters and to solve this problem probably WMF should

have a look inside itself.


Ilario


Just to add to what Illario has said, I think it's important to remember
that most (if not all) chapters are run via a democratic system where the
entire board or committee is elected by its members.  Appointing WMF members
to boards would obviously dilute that democratic accountability.  Indeed, in
my chapter to have any power we'd have to change our constitution, and I
don't see our members being overly sympathetic to having a perceived
unelected outsider on the board making decisions.  Unless the WMF
representatives are going to run for election in the normal fashion, or
unless they're going to be mute observers with no effective powers
whatsoever, I don't think this idea is practical at all.

Cheers,
Craig
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[Foundation-l] Fwd: Draft version of WMAU's strategic plan

2011-08-07 Thread Craig Franklin
For the interest of you fine men and women on foundation-l :-)

Cheers,
Craig

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From: Craig Franklin cfrank...@wikimedia.org.au
Date: 7 August 2011 20:48
Subject: Draft version of WMAU's strategic plan
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Hi All,

As the chair of Wikimedia Australia's strategic planning subcommittee, it
gives me great pleasure to announce that we have released the draft version
of our strategic plan for the next three years for comment and feedback.
 You can see the plan in full here:

http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Draft_Strategic_Plan

If you are interested in the processes behind the drafting of this plan, or
you're a chapter thinking of starting this process (and if you are thinking
of starting, I'd encourage you to actually start!), I have posted a blog
entry here that goes over everything at a high level, and where I will be
happy to answer any technical questions:

http://lankiveil.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/strategic-planning-the-wikimedia-way/

Obviously, given the events of recent days, some aspects of this plan may
need to be revisited, but it's my hope that the funding issue will get
sorted out and we can get back to the ambitious but in my mind achievable
programme work we have outlined here.

Warmest Regards,
Craig Franklin
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Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

2011-08-05 Thread Craig Franklin
Just to follow on from what John Vandenberg said, WMAU's fundraising report,
including all the facts and figures, was posted way way back at the
beginning of February.  While there were some minor differences of opinion
between WMF and WMAU about some of the recommendations made, there was no
concerns raised on the WMF side about the actual numbers, which were the
important part.

You can read the report here:
http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/images/6/66/Fundraising_Report.pdf

I'll also echo what's been said earlier that Wikimedia Australia is
extremely dismayed and disappointed by this latest development.  While we
agree that transparency and accountability are very important, so is
providing a stable financial and regulatory environment for chapters and
other groups to operate in, so that time and effort can go into programme
work rather than arguing about issues such as this.

Cheers,
Craig Franklin
Treasurer - Wikimedia Australia
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Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 88, Issue 62

2011-07-27 Thread Craig Franklin
God forbid that someone should have an opinion contrary to the fashion of
the day (in this case, oral citations)!

Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:21:18 -0700
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Knowledge
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 What is your intention here, Elizabeth, besides trolling?

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Re: [Foundation-l] Corporate Social Responsibility

2010-11-20 Thread Craig Franklin
I don't know any of these people personally, but $128k a year for a legal
expert of Mike Godwin's stature and experience sounds like a bargain, not an
unreasonable expense.  Given that WMF needs competent legal representation,
and given that the WMF is not exactly flush with cash, we should be thanking
Mike for essentially taking a pay cut compared to what he could probably
have made in the for-profit sector.

  Also, at page 7, three major compensations are described:
  Sue Gardner was compensated 175050$ (equivalent to a monthly 14587$
 income)
  Veronique Kessler was compensated 121859$ (equivalent to a monthly 
  10155$ income) Mike Godwin was compensated 128139$ (equivalent to a 
  monthly 10678$ income).

Regards,
Craig


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