[Foundation-l] Timeline for the Observers
Just to note that I¹ve been bold have added a timeline for the Observers. It¹s under a collapsible heading and could get some tweaking. Etienne Beaule Ebe123 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Timeline for the Observers
Wrong mailing list, sorry. Ebe123 On 12-03-24 10:23 PM, Etienne Beaule betie...@bellaliant.net wrote: Just to note that I¹ve been bold have added a timeline for the Observers. It¹s under a collapsible heading and could get some tweaking. Etienne Beaule Ebe123 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] WikiNews...no NOT Wikinews
Will not be competing that well, we are number one and on google, and yahoo, it does not show the new WikiNews. On 12-02-27 4:03 PM, Jason Safoutin jason.safou...@wikinewsie.org wrote: This is interesting. Upon my daily sift through Google News for agencies that might post Wikinews articles, I came across this (A video from WikiNews...no not Wikinews):http://vimeo.com/35988111 It was posted on another site a week ago:http://www.vhx.tv/644528 I don't know who made the video. All I know is this poses a potential threat to our project. I don't know enough about copyright laws in regards to the use of Wikipedia's project names or the use of logos. Regardless, this is not good and quite frankly kinda scared me a little. So I am sending this message through Foundation-1 in hopes that someone might be able to explain this. Wikinews Water Cooler discussion on this: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#WikiNews_makes _a_video... ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Now you've done it: You've made stupid people cry
Wikipedia has references, so your description of stupid is correct. There are thousands of other sites. Ebe123 On 12-01-18 5:31 PM, Svip svi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I hope you people are happy with blocking access to the English Wikipedia. http://gawker.com/5877192/stupid-high-school-kids-and-teachers-freak-out-over- wikipedia-blackout Now people can't finish their reports! Particularly considering I am getting the feeling that the US government already banned Wikipedia. Forever. From a concerned citizen, Svip ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Account Creation
Interesting idea. Ebe123 On 11-12-03 6:27 PM, Abbas Mahmood abbas...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, Last month I was in Qatar and introduced some people to Wikipedia. While they were creating their accounts, some of them had their initial suggested username taken, so they had to repeat it a couple of times until they finally found an available username. One of them had repeated it around 3 or 4 times until he had gotten frustrated. Which is why I'm asking if it's possible to add search type-ahead suggestions for available accounts. //Abbas. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] IRC office hours this Sunday, about the FeedbackDashboard response teams
On incubator too. On 11-12-01 6:30 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, I just wanted to give anyone interested a heads up that we are holding an IRC office hours this Sunday, December 4th at 22:00 UTC. This is about the informal taskforce developing around the Special:FeedbackDashboard feature that the WMF features team has developed for collecting new editor feedback and getting it responses. The feature is currently deployed on English Wikipedia and Dutch Wikipedias, so please spread the word. Each community is in a different place right now (EN has a taskforce with 35ish members, NL just has a description page) but it would be great to have anyone interested in using this feature join us. - Office hours links: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours - English Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:New_editor_feedback - Dutch Wikipedia: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:FeedbackDashboard ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove
But if we enable it at a wiki that doesn't want it, there could be a boycott, and vandals just get the place up to there code. It would be very detrimental to wikipedia. On 11-10-29 12:27 PM, Nickanc Wikipedia nickanc.w...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, Wikilove is something so important about wikipedia's ethics and behaviour that shall be in every wiki. IMHO. 2011/10/29 WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com: Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:31:07 -0700 From: Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 4eab2d2b.3020...@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 10/28/11 3:27 PM, Etienne Beaule wrote: It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems. Oh? I wasn't aware that it had been disabled anywhere as yet. WikiLove was not rolled out en mass; the policy for deployment of the tool is that it is by request only, and the requesting wiki must: a) Make sure the tool is localized (via TranslateWiki); b) Make sure they have a local configuration; and c) Show community consensus. So if it was enabled and then *disabled*, I have not heard of this. Is there a bug report I can look to? Or if you know of a wiki where this is the case, I can do a search. Thanks! -b. -- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate Good to hear that wikilove is only going in on wikis where there is consensus for it. Can anyone give me a link to the discussion that established consensus on EN wikipedia? The nearest I could find was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28miscellaneous%29/Archi ve_33#Thoughts_on_WikiLove.3F Ta WerepielChequers ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove
It could happen. On 11-10-29 4:57 PM, Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk wrote: Etienne, Why any Wikipedia would not want the Wikilove feature? This is inconsistent for me. Wikilove's a global improvement, there's no reason to disagree improvements. _ MateusNobre Wikimedia Brasil - MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects (+55) 85 88393509 30440865 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:31:24 -0300 From: betie...@bellaliant.net To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove But if we enable it at a wiki that doesn't want it, there could be a boycott, and vandals just get the place up to there code. It would be very detrimental to wikipedia. On 11-10-29 12:27 PM, Nickanc Wikipedia nickanc.w...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, Wikilove is something so important about wikipedia's ethics and behaviour that shall be in every wiki. IMHO. 2011/10/29 WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com: Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:31:07 -0700 From: Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 4eab2d2b.3020...@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 10/28/11 3:27 PM, Etienne Beaule wrote: It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems. Oh? I wasn't aware that it had been disabled anywhere as yet. WikiLove was not rolled out en mass; the policy for deployment of the tool is that it is by request only, and the requesting wiki must: a) Make sure the tool is localized (via TranslateWiki); b) Make sure they have a local configuration; and c) Show community consensus. So if it was enabled and then *disabled*, I have not heard of this. Is there a bug report I can look to? Or if you know of a wiki where this is the case, I can do a search. Thanks! -b. -- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate Good to hear that wikilove is only going in on wikis where there is consensus for it. Can anyone give me a link to the discussion that established consensus on EN wikipedia? The nearest I could find was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28miscellaneous%29/Arc hi ve_33#Thoughts_on_WikiLove.3F Ta WerepielChequers ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF
It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems. On 11-10-28 7:16 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Teofilo teofilow...@gmail.com wrote: Now we are seeing the appearance of a feedback tool on the English Wikipedia ? How long are the non-English Wikipedias going to be free from this new stupid tool which has nothing to do with writing an encyclopaedia ? In addition to English Wikipedia, WikiLove has been enabled on Arabic Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Hungarian Wikipedia, Macedonian Wikipedia, Malayalam Wikipedia, Norwegian Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Swedish Wikipedia, Oriya Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia, MediaWiki.org and Commons. So, WikiLove is spreading. Maybe one day it will even come to German Wikipedia. I'm guessing 2020. ;-) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF
On incubator only, and probably the WikimediaIncubator extension. All was set up. On 11-10-28 7:31 PM, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 10/28/11 3:27 PM, Etienne Beaule wrote: It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems. Oh? I wasn't aware that it had been disabled anywhere as yet. WikiLove was not rolled out en mass; the policy for deployment of the tool is that it is by request only, and the requesting wiki must: a) Make sure the tool is localized (via TranslateWiki); b) Make sure they have a local configuration; and c) Show community consensus. So if it was enabled and then *disabled*, I have not heard of this. Is there a bug report I can look to? Or if you know of a wiki where this is the case, I can do a search. Thanks! -b. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] New Version of PROTECT IP Bill May Target Legal Sites
Or Canada, as proposed for april fools! On 11-10-26 4:16 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:02:19 +0200, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: If so, goodbye wiki, as well. At least in US. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/26/0451240/new-version-of-protect-ip-bill- may-target-legal-sites Well, the servers still could be moved to Europe. Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] News from Germany: White Bags and thinking about a fork
Lets just disable the filter for the german wikipedia and make the decisions wiki per wiki. Ebe123 On 11-10-22 3:52 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: So, we are going to have virtually two cloned German Wikipedias, one with image filter extension enabled and other disabled. Not very useful, but it is your choice. I hope you enable the Semantic MediaWiki extension in the new fork. Good luck. 2011/10/22 Dirk Franke dirkingofra...@googlemail.com Dear Mailinglists, the cultural homogenous group of Germans tends to discuss in German. So to give you a short update on what is happening: A White Bag protest movement against the image filter is forming. And people who talked privately about a fork for some time, start to think and say it loud. In longer: http://www.iberty.net/2011/10/news-from-german-wikipedia-white-bag.html regards, Dirk Franke/Southpark ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] University project on Wikipedia
Ça va être bien! It will be good! Je vais faire du bénévolat pour ceci. I will volunteer. Étienne (Ebe123) On 11-10-16 8:21 AM, Maria Fanucchi marialado...@gmail.com wrote: [Cross-posting this to Translators-l, WikiEN-l and Foundation-l, because there is a considerable amount of overlap, as you'll see. Volunteers from several Wikipedias may be needed, and the Foundation could eventually be involved if the project becomes an annual one. I apologize in advance to those subscribed all three lists.] Hello everyone, (Note: For those who don't know me, I am [[User:Arria Belli]]. Former admin and arbitrator over at fr:wp, and member of the LangCom. I met some of you at Wikimania 2008 Alexandria, where I did a presentation called Translation in Wikimedia Projects ex-aequo with [[User:Britty]].) I've just started a master's degree at the ESIT (Ecole supérieure d'interprètes et de traducteurs) in Paris, in English/French/Spanish translation. It's quite a good school; a large percentage of the interpreters and translators working in international organizations are graduates of the ESIT. My French-to-English translation professor has asked me to set up a project for all the students in her class, translating Wikipedia articles. We're a small group: there are only about 5 or 6 of us. What we'd be doing is taking articles from fr: and translating them to en:. Students are free to choose the articles they'll translate. Since I'm mostly active over at fr:wp, I will need some help from people on en:. Most notably, I think it would be wise to set up a small group of en:wp volunteers who could guide the students on a one-on-one basis in case they have trouble understanding wiki markup, references, etc. I would be coordinating the project, but I don't think I could field all the students' questions at once! Any volunteers? I want to make this as positive an experience as possible for everyone involved: the students, the professor and the institution. If the project is successful enough, it might happen again next year or even next semester, and become a regular thing. As a very important aside: My professor told me that professors in other language combinations might also be interested in Wikipedia projects of their own. Therefore, there could be an English-to-Russian project, or a French-to-Spanish one, or French-to-Korean, etc. I'll let you know as soon as I'm told whether this could happen. Even if no other language combinations are interested, they might be next year if this one is a success. Thank you, and happy editing. Maria Fanucchi [[User:Arria Belli]] ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content
MediaWiki serves more than the Wikimedia Foundation too. ~~Ebe123 On 11-10-11 4:42 PM, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 11.10.2011 17:42, schrieb Andreas Kolbe: From: Faef...@wikimedia.org.uk We could also just delete them, unless someone actually uses them in a sensible way in an article. :-) sincerely, Kim Bruning Not on Commons; being objectionable to some viewers and not being currently in use does not make a potentially educational image out of scope. I have seen many poorly worded deletion requests on Commons on the basis of a potentially useable image being orphaned rather than it being unrealistic to expect it to ever be used for an educational purpose. Fae Agree with Fae; Commons is a general image repository in its own right, serving a bigger audience than just the other Wikimedia projects. So the fact is that Commons will contain controversial images and that we have to curate them responsibly. Someone on Meta has pointed out that Commons seems to list sexual image results for search terms like cucumber, electric toothbrushes or pearl necklace way higher than a corresponding Google search. See http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-October/006290.html Andreas This might just be coincidence for special cases. I'm sure if you search long enough you will find opposite examples as well. But wouldn't it run against the intention of a search engine to rate down content by possibly offensive? If you search for a cucumber you should expect to find one. If the description is correct, you should find the most suitable images first. But that should be based on the rating algorithm that works on the description, not on the fact that content is/might be/could be controversial. Implementing such a restriction for a search engine (by default) would go against any principal and would be discrimination of content. We should not do this. nya~ ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content
I was thinking about that too. So what? --Ebe123 On 11-10-09 10:43 AM, church.of.emacs.ml church.of.emacs...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Ting, one simple question: Is the Wikimedia Foundation going to enable the image filter on _all_ projects, disregarding consensus by local communities of rejecting the image filter? (E.g. German Wikipedia) We are currently in a very unpleasant situation of uncertainty. Tensions in the community are extremely high (too high, if you ask me, but Wikimedians are emotional people), speculations and rumors about what WMF is going to do prevail. A clear statement would help our discussion process. Regards, Tobias / User:Church of emacs ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
