Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Isabell Long
Hi,

On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 12:14:39AM +0400, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
 On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:49:58 -0600 (MDT), Fred Bauder
 fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
  We should do this before some aggressive outfit like Wikinfo jumps in...
  It wouldn't be an anyone can edit wiki. Only authorized student accounts
  could edit. It would be a teaching tool.

 To do this is not a big deal, but it would only have an added value for us
 if the result could be somehow merged into Wikipedia once the assessment
 has been completed. It is not difficult to organize, but it requires some
 preliminary planning (only articles absent in Wikipedia would be assigned?
 What if they did not exist at the time of the assignment but were created
 before the assessment? Who will merge? etc).

Sorry to dampen things, but as we're proposing what ifs, what if some
of Wikipedia's material was copied to it and it just became a kind of
duplicate of Wikipedia run, as proposed, by the WMF?  There would be admins 
etc, but
run by students for students: that's not always a good thing.  With
regard to what you said about maybe only articles absent in Wikipedia would be
assigned, that's a good idea (it avoids the direct what if mentioned above),
but an assignment you can't straight to a Wikipedia article for
information but actually have to go browsing the web for?  That would
horrify many students I know.  ;-)

It's definitely a good idea though, I'm not disputing that.  I'd
certainly get involved!

Disclaimer: I am a student.  :-)

Isabell.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: wikiEducation: The Classroom Wikipedia

2011-07-02 Thread Isabell Long
Hi,

On 2 July 2011 23:28, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
 On 2 July 2011 23:16, Isabell Long isabell...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry to dampen things, but as we're proposing what ifs, what if some
 of Wikipedia's material was copied to it and it just became a kind of
 duplicate of Wikipedia run, as proposed, by the WMF?  There would be
 admins etc, but
 run by students for students: that's not always a good thing.  With
 regard to what you said about maybe only articles absent in Wikipedia
 would be
 assigned, that's a good idea (it avoids the direct what if mentioned
 above),
 but an assignment you can't straight to a Wikipedia article for
 information but actually have to go browsing the web for?  That would
 horrify many students I know.  ;-)

Let's try part of the second-to-last sentence again: ... an
assignment on a subject you can't go straight to a Wikipedia article
for information on

 3rd grade, or post-graduate?

That's another question I meant to ask: what are we defining students as here?

 Well, the existence of a Wikipedia article
 on almost any subject is always going to be there, no matter what kind of
 writing exercise students participate in. Great assignments will be about
 subjects our regular editors don't have much interest in but students do,
 ephemeral, topical subjects.

Ah, right.  Like the example you used earlier: an article on Lady Gaga. :-)

 Copying from or using Wikipedia, or any other encyclopedia, as a source
 would diminish rather than increase evaluation of work; that is pretty
 much standard practice anyway.

That's very true.  This question delves a bit into the specifics and
rules of running such a project, but would that then get put onto
the Wiki (going back to my what if in my previous email...), would
the student be asked to re-do it, or would all of this be at the
discretion of the supervising teacher?  I assume the latter, but we
don't have to delve into the specifics at this time of night.  :-)

Isabell.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Languages and numbers

2011-06-25 Thread Isabell Long
Hi,

On 25 Jun 2011, at 05:52, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:

 While preparing Missing Wikipedias [1], I've got numbers of speakers and
 languages by area and country with chapter not covered by Wikipedias.

Fascinating!  Thanks for the work!  :-)

Isabell.

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Re: [Foundation-l] User talk page email notification

2011-05-14 Thread Isabell Long
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:28:03PM +0200, Tim Starling wrote:
 Email notification for user talk page changes is now enabled on all wikis.

This will definitely come in useful.

Thanks a lot!

Isabell.
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Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing Wikimedia Education List

2011-04-08 Thread Isabell Long
Hi,

On 8 Apr 2011, at 20:12, Jan-Bart de Vreede janb...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 We would like to take this opportunity to announce the new Wikimedia 
 Education list.

Sounds good!  I'm now subscribed.  :-)

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: A lack of newbies that stick

2011-04-03 Thread Isabell Long
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 06:33:32PM +0100, Phil Nash wrote:
 We've not had SUL (Single User Login) for that long, and my impression is 
 that this will tend to inflate the number of registered accounts compared 
 with the number of active accounts. 

Yes, due to the sheer number of accounts that are created on various
wikis through that, I think.
 
 Has this been taken into account?

And another question following on from this one: how can it be taken
into account?

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Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications

2010-03-25 Thread Isabell Long
On 24 March 2010 22:41, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 The call for applications for Wikimania Scholarships to attend
 Wikimania 2010 https://wm10schols.wikimedia.org/in Gdansk, Poland
 (July 9-11) is now open. The Wikimedia Foundation offers Scholarships
 to pay for selected individuals' round trip travel, accommodations,
 and registration at the conference.

I just noticed that!  Wow!  Is there any lower age limit for
Wikimania?  I mean, do you have to be a certain age to attend?  I
might well apply if that's not the case or I'm old enough (16) - it is
in Poland after all and I have never been to Poland, fascinating
country and for a Wikimedia conference as well - wow!

Thanks,

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Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications

2010-03-25 Thread Isabell Long
On 25 March 2010 18:51, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote:
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 Isabell Long wrote:
 On 24 March 2010 22:41, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 The call for applications for Wikimania Scholarships to attend
 Wikimania 2010 https://wm10schols.wikimedia.org/in Gdansk,
 Poland (July 9-11) is now open. The Wikimedia Foundation offers
 Scholarships to pay for selected individuals' round trip travel,
 accommodations, and registration at the conference.

 I just noticed that! Wow! Is there any lower age limit for
 Wikimania? I mean, do you have to be a certain age to attend? I
 might well apply if that's not the case or I'm old enough (16) - it
 is in Poland after all and I have never been to Poland, fascinating
 country and for a Wikimedia conference as well - wow!

 Thanks,

 There is not an age limit set for Wikimania as a whole. Essentially,
 anyone who is eligible for attendance is eligible for scholarship.
 People who are not of the age of majority in the country of
 citizenship will undoubtedly require their guardians' permission to
 travel, and if those people are considered by the scholarship
 committee, the committee will want to see that proof.

Yep, sure.  Thanks, good to know there's not an age limit!


 As far as the minimum age for attendance, the local team has not set
 any criteria. It should be considered that this criteria may be
 different for citizens of the host country to travel in the country
 than it is for non-Polish citizens. I don't know if being a citizen
 of an EU country makes a difference for minors traveling across borders.

I don't think there are any restrictions but then I am not overly
familiar with EU law.

 Past Wikimanias have seen scholarship recipients as young as 15 years
 of age; but the one I remember specifically also traveled with a
 guardian, who attended the conference as well. There may be other
 considerations involved in the host country with regards to liability
 that have to be taken into account when granting a scholarship to
 someone of that age.

Sure. If I come I will be travelling with a parent anyway.


 Ultimately, there are no restrictions on /applying/ for scholarship so
 you should feel free to apply. However, the application was designed
 to allow only for years that start with 19, so people born 2000 or
 later will have to contact us separately to apply.

Don't worry, I'm not quite *that* young.

Thanks,

Isabell.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications

2010-03-25 Thread Isabell Long
On 25 March 2010 19:48, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote:
 I don't think there are any restrictions but then I am not overly
 familiar with EU law.

 I guess you will not be able to fly without a certified permission of your
 parents/guardians. The same applies to crossing the borders (I assume you
 do not need visa to visit Poland).

If you're an EU citizen then you can travel freely between all
countries of the EU, supposedly.  And no, no flying without permission
of course, but I wouldn't go on my own anyway.  :)

Isabell.

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Re: [Foundation-l] strategy office hours today

2009-11-17 Thread Isabell Long
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 05:16:23PM +, Bod Notbod wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Eugene Eric Kim ee...@blueoxen.com wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  It's that time again. Strategic Planning office hours are today,
  November 18, from 20:00-21:00 UTC, which is: 12-1pm PST, 3pm-4pm EST.
 
 Um, today's the 17th.

Maybe they're going on US time?

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Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation-l open for business, with changes

2009-11-15 Thread Isabell Long
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:50:40AM -0500, Ryan Lomonaco wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Good idea. Is the number of posts from any one contributor easy to
  keep track of?
 
 
 Erik Zachte has some stats here that seem to update fairly regularly:
 
 http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/foundation-l.html

Wow, they're very comprehensive and interesting!
 
 You can also see all messages, sorted by user, here:
 
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-November/author.html

I never knew that was there, quite useful for looking up specific messages in a 
specific month on a specific list without trawling through the main archives or 
your inbox.

Thanks!

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Re: [Foundation-l] How to make a puzzle globe

2009-11-01 Thread Isabell Long
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 02:36:02PM +, David Gerard wrote:
 http://www.externaute.net/la-globe-en-puzzle-de-wikipedia-en-realite-3d/1071

Haha, love that, very clever!  I want one!

Isabell

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Re: [Foundation-l] List Summary Service, finally

2009-06-14 Thread Isabell Long
2009/6/14 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com:
 After an unintentional long delay, there are short summaries of
 foundation-l posted now for:

 April: 
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS/foundation-l-archives/2009_April_1-30
 May: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS/foundation-l-archives/2009_May_1-31
 and the first half of June:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS/foundation-l-archives/2009_June_1-15

Great, thank you, and the delay is to be expected really, you are very busy!

 Sorry for the delay in posting. Remember, anyone else can do summaries
 as well, not just me :)

Rather nice hint there, haha.

Thanks Phoebe, the summaries really are very useful (like for me who
does not read all the mailing list because there is just *so* much of
it)!

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