Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-12 Thread Mathias Damour
Why would both Associations and Affiliates both need to use 
Wikimedia marks ?

Does OpenStreetMap need it if it gets some grants from the WMF ?

I hope that these models won't be used to softly downgrade (or threaten 
to downgrade) chapters that would be said not having their bylaws and 
mission aligned with Wikimedia's.


Le 13/02/2012 08:09, Ting Chen a écrit :

The Board approves the following letter to be sent to the community:


The organizational structure of the Wikimedia movement is growing 
rapidly: since 2010, the number of chapters has grown by 50%, and the 
size of the Foundation has doubled.  Over the past 18 months, the 
movement roles group has worked to clarify the roles and 
responsibilities of different groups working within our international 
movement, and the Board thanks those who have participated in this 
process.


We want to make it easier for a wider variety of groups to be 
recognized as part of the movement.  Below are draft resolutions to 
recognize new models of affiliation, based on input received to date.  
They are posted on Meta for feedback, to encourage discussion and 
improvement.  We encourage everyone to participate on the talk pages 
between now and 10 March.  We aim to finalize, approve, and publish 
the resolutions by 28 March.


Thanks,
Ting.


Posted on Meta at: 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles/affiliations


== Expansion of movement affiliation models ==

In acknowledgement of the diversity of groups contributing to our 
movement, the Board recognizes an expanded framework for affiliation 
of Wikimedia groups furthering our movement:


*: '''Chapters''': legal entities with bylaws and mission aligned with 
Wikimedia's, focused on supporting related work within a geography. 
Chapters must reach agreement with the Foundation for use of the 
Wikimedia trademarks for their work, publicity, and fundraising; and 
would be allowed to use a name clearly linking them to Wikimedia.


*: '''Partner Organizations''': legal entities with bylaws and mission 
aligned with Wikimedia's, focused on a cultural, linguistic, or other 
topic; not be exclusive to any geography. Partner organizations must 
reach agreement with the Foundation for use of the Wikimedia 
trademarks for their work, publicity, and fundraising; and would be 
allowed to use a name clearly linking them to Wikimedia.


*: '''Associations''': open-membership groups with an established 
contact person and stated purpose, which need basic use of the 
Wikimedia trademarks for promotion and organization of projects and 
events. A new association can be formed by listing its information in 
a public place, and confirming their contact information. An 
association contact can sign an optional agreement to use Wikimedia 
marks in a limited way in the scope of their work. Small projects can 
be supported through individual reimbursement.


*: '''Affiliates''': like-minded organizations that actively support 
the movement's work. They are listed publicly and granted limited use 
of the marks on websites and posters indicating their support of and 
collaboration with Wikimedia.


== Recognizing new affiliation models ==

In connection with its decision to expand the framework of affiliated 
groups, the Board expands the mandate of the Chapters Committee to 
include all affiliations, and asks it to update its scope and rules of 
procedure to cover:


* recognizing all group models
* mentoring chapters and partner organiations
* reviewing and summarizing the status of all groups

The committee should also indicate what resources it will need to be 
effective, including staff support and resources from the Foundation.


This proposed charter and plan should be shared with the Board by 15 
June, for approval by its July 2012 meeting.



;References:
* [[wmf:Audit charter]]
* [[wmf:Resolution:Chapters committee/Scope]]
* [[wmf:Resolution:Chapters committee/Rules of procedure]]




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Re: [Foundation-l] Waste of money, Wikipediacentrism. - Brazil

2012-02-11 Thread Mathias Damour

Le 25/01/2012 14:51, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton a écrit :

Dear all,
Well as you know, Brazil is a priority, but when spending is a waste.
We have a volunteer group that operates in Brazil since 2008 in direct
contact with the problems of Brazil, know much about the free national
culture, know a lot about education in the country, and their projects, they
can tell the reasons why Brazil has poor performance on Wikipedia. Wikimedia
Foundation conducted several interviews with the group, I was interviewed
three times and had several conversations with several different employees.
Also recently a person was hired to do a search on this, already operating in
Brazil.
And yesterday they announced the arrival of two more employees to ask only
that, again. [1] They already have the answer to these interviews, what
they are asking again?

And what I find worse is the fact that there is a prohibitive message for
explanation of other Wikimedia projects. As for the local group that
Wikipedia is not central. And there will be an office of WMF, only to
activities for Wikipedia. And many Brazilians criticize the model of the WMF,
and that centralization in Wikipedia. Wikipedia is only the tenth seventh most
visited site in the country. Need better, yes, but the problem is the
community that is not healthy, and that the WMF does not interfere on that. So
it's skating, and spending resources unnecessarily.

Several staff members say the Wikipedia impact is larger than the other
projects.
Which has more impact for you?
The Movement Wikimedia projects through education, created free
educational resources available in Wikibooks, and classes on Wikiversity,
this could change the lives of thousands of poor children or
The Movement Wikimedia succeeded in creating an encyclopaedia in
Portuguese high quality 

Unfortunately I live in a country that 38% of teens lives in extreme
poverty [2], how they want to create a program just with universities, to
share knowledge if people that never walk inside one university? Or not be
able to read the contents of Wikipedia because they were not properly
literate. I'm not talking to literate Brazilians, I'm talking to create free
educational resources, and create classes, and encourage businesses
and organizations
to do that change, this is a collaborative work.

With the money spent to keep three people six days in Brazil from the U.S.A.,
we could fund a fellow to start a social work with teachers to create this
material.What is the interest of the WMF on this? Our priority is Wikipedia


*Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment.
*
I'll keep imagining, and having to push myself very hard to see this world.
That will never be reached by Wikipedia alone.Especially in Brazil.


That's interesting. What kind of free educational resources would you 
like to be developed ?

What about a Wikikids in portugese ?

By the way, on that subject, I'd like to point out this discussion I had 
on simple.wikipedia about Wikikids/Vikidia :

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_talk/Archive_96#WikiKids_-_Vikidia

However, even if this project is doing well in two languages yet 
(wikikids.nl and fr.vikidia.org), I'm not sure it can be endorsed or 
just supported by the WMF !


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[Foundation-l] WikiKids - Vikidia: encyclopedia for children

2011-11-19 Thread Mathias Damour
 say that the fact that this wiki 
is not so big and hasn't been created in other language may show that 
its aim would not be so clear, mobilizing and justifying. By the way, on 
Vikidia, we do hope to be usefull not only to children but to people of 
any age that would like a simple approach of a subject, or a shorter one 
than on Wikipedia. We beleive that if its content were not relevant to 
older people, it wouldn't be good either for children.

Another thought, one may even link this projet with an article of the 
convention on the Rights of the Child 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child which 
is the following:


Article 13 http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/crc.htm#art13
1. The child shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right 
shall include freedom to seek, receive *and impart* information and 
ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing 
or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of the 
child's choice.
2. The exercise of this right may be subject to certain restrictions, 
but these shall only be such as are provided by law and are necessary:
(a) For respect of the rights or reputations of others; or
(b) For the protection of national security or of public order (ordre 
public), or of public health or morals.


I'm afraid that the main objection may be the opinion I can read on the 
2010 discussion on this list, which is to assume that anything that 
deals with children should be exclusively conducted by certified 
professionnals, and thus can not be an open collaboration project. Since 
I can't see any legal grounds to it (do you need a licence to write a 
book for children ?), I guess it has some sociological or cultural 
grounds...
However, the point of this message is to address the I don't think it 
can work well objection, associated with issues such as vandalism, 
censorship, defining the appropriate content, children motivation and 
ability to edit articles... since it does work well at least in two 
language, where there is children, teenagers and adults working together 
to better the wiki. And thousands of readers every days.

Previous discussions on this mailing list :
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2005-January/015108.html 
January 2005
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-May/thread.html#30511 
May 2007
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-June/thread.html#59456 
June 2010

On the wikis :
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_86#New_Wikipedia_for_Kids
 
October 2011
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_79#WikiKids_-_Vikidia:_encyclopedia_for_children
 
October 2011
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Wikipedia_exclusively_for_Kids
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Wiki_for_kids
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Wikipedia_Junior
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Archive_30#Wikipediakids
 
and July 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28policy%29/Archive_78#NOTCENSORED_and_content_control
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Archive_78#Summary_Pages_NOT_Childrens.27_Pages
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Persistent_proposals#Abbreviated_Wikipedia_or_Childrens.27_Wikipedia

Greetings,

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