Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-23 Thread David Gerard
On 19 June 2010 19:00, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
 Ryan Lomonaco wrote:

 A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for
 the past five days or so.

 Google is evil.


Your message ended up in my Gmail spam ;-p


- d.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-23 Thread K. Peachey
Listing some? they did not get delivered at all.
-Peachey

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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-21 Thread Erik Moeller
I reached out to Google about this, and they tell me it should be
fixed later today, at least for misclassified listserv messages.
According to our contact there, the misclassification happened because
spammers have included images from Wikimedia projects in spam
messages. Let me know offlist if you see additional false positives
from here on.
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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-19 Thread MZMcBride
Ryan Lomonaco wrote:
 A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for
 the past five days or so.

Google is evil.

MZMcBride



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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-19 Thread Fajro
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 3:00 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
 Google is evil.

Due to a filter you created, this message was not sent to Spam.


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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Filip Maljkovic
On 06/17/2010 07:48 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
 There is a simple solution:

 1) Click create a filter next to the search bar
 2) Type lists.wikimedia.org in the To: box
 3) Click Next step
 4) Check Never send to spam
 5) Save the filter

 This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though.
 Search for in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org to find them and Not
 Spam them manually.


Unfortunately, this has a side-effect. If you're a mailing list 
administrator, you'll often get spam mail sent directly to 
list-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org. With a filter like this, junk mail 
that has been normally, and rightfully so, sent to Spam will start 
appearing in Inbox, which is quite a nuisance.

Cheers,
Filip

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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Peter Gervai
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:30, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:

 A few of us noticed this several days back. If you check some
 of the blacklists, lists.wikimedia.org seems to have some people's
 naughty list. Don't know if that's whats causing it or not though.

It usually does, but right now I don't see it listed to any relevant
lists. (last time I checked google doesn't care much about irrelevant
ones)

Of course the other reason might be lots of people pressing SPAM
button in gmail

g

ps: backscatterer is a joke and sorbs useless due to payware removals.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Cary Bass
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On 06/17/2010 10:17 AM, Risker wrote:
 I can confirm that Gmail has been marking at least some mail as
 spam from *every* Wikimedia or Wikipedia list to which I subscribe,
 and has been doing so since June 11. This includes messages from
 the OTRS notification system.
I recently sent a rather important message about a scholarship to one
of the awardees.  I sent the email from my Thunderbird, but the from
address was not mine, but the default scholarship address.  I asked
him why he hadn't responded, this person fished it out of their spam
folder.

So it's not just listmail and otrs; it's also mail coming from the
Foundation's mailserver directly.

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Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though.
 Search for in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org to find them and Not
 Spam them manually.



Gah!  The search result for that gives me _thousands_ of messages. ...
and it seems that you can only not-spam a page at a time, the not spam
option goes away if you tell it to mark all of the messages in the
search results

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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread James Alexander
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though.
  Search for in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org to find them and Not
  Spam them manually.



 Gah!  The search result for that gives me _thousands_ of messages. ...
 and it seems that you can only not-spam a page at a time, the not spam
 option goes away if you tell it to mark all of the messages in the
 search results


aye this is my issue. I'm flagging some of the mailing lists at the moment
but part of me thinks I should let them go to spam and press the not spam
to train it. I'm still having issues on the one where I'm owner, at least
one gives me 100+ spam mails on some days and I DONT want those in my inbox.
:/


James Alexander
james.alexan...@rochester.edu
jameso...@gmail.com
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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-18 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 18 June 2010 22:16, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though.
  Search for in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org to find them and Not
  Spam them manually.
 
 
 
  Gah!  The search result for that gives me _thousands_ of messages. ...
  and it seems that you can only not-spam a page at a time, the not spam
  option goes away if you tell it to mark all of the messages in the
  search results

 Yes, I discovered the same thing. I don't understand why - it seems to
 be a bug. Fortunately, I only found hundreds, not thousands.


It's not a bug, it's a feature.  Google doesn't want you screwing up its
spam filter by not-spamming messages which you haven't even read the title
of.  You can still click on move to inbox.
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[Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-17 Thread Ryan Lomonaco
A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for
the past five days or so.  It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia
lists, including Otrs-en-l and daily-article-l.  I don't know what if any
work has been done to try to fix this issue, but until it's sorted out, you
might need to watch your spam folders for list posts.

Thanks,
Ryan

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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-17 Thread Risker
On 17 June 2010 13:12, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.com wrote:

 A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for
 the past five days or so.  It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia
 lists, including Otrs-en-l and daily-article-l.  I don't know what if any
 work has been done to try to fix this issue, but until it's sorted out, you
 might need to watch your spam folders for list posts.

 Thanks,
 Ryan


I can confirm that Gmail has been marking at least some mail as spam from
*every* Wikimedia or Wikipedia list to which I subscribe, and has been doing
so since June 11. This includes messages from the OTRS notification system.

Risker/Anne
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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-17 Thread Daniel ~ Leinad
2010/6/17 Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.com:
 A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for
 the past five days or so.  It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia

I've noticed the same problem with Gmail ;/

In last days I have to check very carefully spam folder.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-17 Thread Shiju Alex
Yes. This is true. Many messages are marked as spam during the past few
days.

I got this message also from the SPAM folder.




On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Daniel ~ Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.comwrote:

 2010/6/17 Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.com:
  A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam
 for
  the past five days or so.  It sounds like this is affecting other
 Wikimedia

 I've noticed the same problem with Gmail ;/

 In last days I have to check very carefully spam folder.

 --
 Leinad

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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 June 2010 18:12, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.com wrote:
 A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for
 the past five days or so.  It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia
 lists, including Otrs-en-l and daily-article-l.  I don't know what if any
 work has been done to try to fix this issue, but until it's sorted out, you
 might need to watch your spam folders for list posts.

So *that's* why nothing's been making any sense! Thanks for telling me!

There is a simple solution:

1) Click create a filter next to the search bar
2) Type lists.wikimedia.org in the To: box
3) Click Next step
4) Check Never send to spam
5) Save the filter

This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though.
Search for in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org to find them and Not
Spam them manually.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-17 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Hi Thomas,

I appreciate a lot your warning and hint

 This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though.
 Search for in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org to find them and Not
 Spam them manually.

as I never noticed before that checkbox

Also apply filter to XXX conversations below.

(see 2nd page of Gmail filter wizard)
doesn't process letters which're in Spam already.

Regards,

Pavlo

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 17 June 2010 18:12, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.com wrote:
 A housekeeping note: Gmail has been marking some list messages as spam for
 the past five days or so.  It sounds like this is affecting other Wikimedia
 lists, including Otrs-en-l and daily-article-l.  I don't know what if any
 work has been done to try to fix this issue, but until it's sorted out, you
 might need to watch your spam folders for list posts.

 So *that's* why nothing's been making any sense! Thanks for telling me!

 There is a simple solution:

 1) Click create a filter next to the search bar
 2) Type lists.wikimedia.org in the To: box
 3) Click Next step
 4) Check Never send to spam
 5) Save the filter

 This will NOT get things out of spam that are already in it, though.
 Search for in:spam to:lists.wikimedia.org to find them and Not
 Spam them manually.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-17 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:

 2) Type lists.wikimedia.org in the To: box


If you use Has the words: [quote]listid:*.wikimedia.org[/quote] you'll
be able to catch certain messages not caught by the To: filter.
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Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-17 Thread Junaid P V
I think adding mailing list addresses to contacts list will solve the
problem.

On 18 June 2010 03:07, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  2) Type lists.wikimedia.org in the To: box
 

 If you use Has the words: [quote]listid:*.wikimedia.org[/quote] you'll
 be able to catch certain messages not caught by the To: filter.
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