Re: [Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

2011-05-07 Thread Mike Dupont
Hello, sorry to bring this up, again, but this guy, mr whitewriter has
been wikihounding me, he just does not give up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Skier_Dude#Hi_dude.21_:.29

It really hurts me to be treated this way and I wonder if this
behavior of whitewriter will be tolerated and supported? How can one
editor constantly attack people and get away with it,

mike


On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 04/26/2011 03:56 AM, John Vandenberg wrote:
 (BTW, related to that, may folk from en.wp raise requirements for so
 called consensus related to page deletion? Something like at least
 five users with at least 500 edits would save many useful material from
 systemic trolling.)

 Do any other wikis have similar thresholds?

 If I remember well, sr.wp has some thresholds related to policy
 decisions. Not sure about deletion; but RfD on sr.wp are far from en.wp
 traffic.

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[Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

2011-04-25 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi there,
look guys someone deleted my pages promoting our work in Kosovo and Albania
from my user page saying they are of no use to the wikipedia
can someone please comment on that?
Gerard was at the event in Albania that was supposedly not helping the
wikipedia to talk about wikipedia there.
Milos was at the event in 2009 to talk about wikipedia as well. I think many
of you might have heard about the work I have been doing to promote
wikipedia, and now all my user pages on those topics have been deleted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Mdupont/AgimRamadani


   - 
User:Mdupont/OpenLetterToFreeSoftwareCommunitieshttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mdupont/OpenLetterToFreeSoftwareCommunitiesaction=editredlink=1


   - WP:WEBHOST http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WEBHOST -
   Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing
   useful to Wikipedia


 thank,
mike

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Re: [Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

2011-04-25 Thread Fred Bauder
 Hi there,
 look guys someone deleted my pages promoting our work in Kosovo and
 Albania
 from my user page saying they are of no use to the wikipedia
 can someone please comment on that?
 Gerard was at the event in Albania that was supposedly not helping the
 wikipedia to talk about wikipedia there.
 Milos was at the event in 2009 to talk about wikipedia as well. I think
 many
 of you might have heard about the work I have been doing to promote
 wikipedia, and now all my user pages on those topics have been deleted.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Mdupont/AgimRamadani


-
 User:Mdupont/OpenLetterToFreeSoftwareCommunitieshttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mdupont/OpenLetterToFreeSoftwareCommunitiesaction=editredlink=1


- WP:WEBHOST http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WEBHOST -
Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia,
 nothing
useful to Wikipedia


  thank,
 mike


How would people from Kosovo or Albania find all those user pages?

Fred


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Re: [Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

2011-04-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
Mike is a well know activist who promotes Open Source and Wikipedia in
Albania and Kosovo. People do know him and will find the information he
provides.
Thanks,
  GerardM

On 25 April 2011 22:55, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:

  Hi there,
  look guys someone deleted my pages promoting our work in Kosovo and
  Albania
  from my user page saying they are of no use to the wikipedia
  can someone please comment on that?
  Gerard was at the event in Albania that was supposedly not helping the
  wikipedia to talk about wikipedia there.
  Milos was at the event in 2009 to talk about wikipedia as well. I think
  many
  of you might have heard about the work I have been doing to promote
  wikipedia, and now all my user pages on those topics have been deleted.
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Mdupont/AgimRamadani
 
 
 -
  User:Mdupont/OpenLetterToFreeSoftwareCommunities
 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mdupont/OpenLetterToFreeSoftwareCommunitiesaction=editredlink=1
 
 
 
 - WP:WEBHOST http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WEBHOST -
 Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia,
  nothing
 useful to Wikipedia
 
 
   thank,
  mike


 How would people from Kosovo or Albania find all those user pages?

 Fred


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Re: [Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

2011-04-25 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hoi,
 Mike is a well know activist who promotes Open Source and Wikipedia in
 Albania and Kosovo. People do know him and will find the information he
 provides.

I have restored a subset of these pages.  Some of them would be better
on the Meta or outreach wikis.

--
John Vandenberg

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Re: [Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

2011-04-25 Thread Milos Rancic
On 04/25/2011 11:53 PM, John Vandenberg wrote:
 I have restored a subset of these pages.  Some of them would be better
 on the Meta or outreach wikis.

Thanks, John!

Mike, you should ask for help before conclusion of deletion. Discussion
about deletion was small and was a typical example of systemic trolling
because of lack of interest.

(BTW, related to that, may folk from en.wp raise requirements for so
called consensus related to page deletion? Something like at least
five users with at least 500 edits would save many useful material from
systemic trolling.)

If no one notified you about deletion process, you should complain on
wiki. Also, as John said, it is useful to keep organizational pages on
Meta, not on English Wikipedia.

If you need content to be recovered and moved to Meta, please let us
know about your plan.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

2011-04-25 Thread Mike Dupont
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:56 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 04/25/2011 11:53 PM, John Vandenberg wrote:
  I have restored a subset of these pages.  Some of them would be better
  on the Meta or outreach wikis.
 
  Thanks, John!
 
  Mike, you should ask for help before conclusion of deletion. Discussion
  about deletion was small and was a typical example of systemic trolling
  because of lack of interest.
 
  (BTW, related to that, may folk from en.wp raise requirements for so
  called consensus related to page deletion? Something like at least
  five users with at least 500 edits would save many useful material from
  systemic trolling.)

 Do any other wikis have similar thresholds?

  If no one notified you about deletion process, you should complain on
  wiki.

 Mike was given an automated notification about one page, which he
 probably didnt care about, but the deletion covered lots of other
 pages as well.


I have not gotten emails at all from wikipedia in a while, but the mails
from commons work.
Hmm, it seems that I overlooked the page on my talk, it was there. Silly me.
Anyway, thanks alot for the restore.
mike



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Re: [Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

2011-04-25 Thread Mike Dupont
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.netwrote:

  Hi there,
  look guys someone deleted my pages promoting our work in Kosovo and
  Albania
  from my user page saying they are of no use to the wikipedia
  can someone please comment on that?
  Gerard was at the event in Albania that was supposedly not helping the
  wikipedia to talk about wikipedia there.
  Milos was at the event in 2009 to talk about wikipedia as well. I think
  many
  of you might have heard about the work I have been doing to promote
  wikipedia, and now all my user pages on those topics have been deleted.
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Mdupont/AgimRamadani
 
 
 -
  User:Mdupont/OpenLetterToFreeSoftwareCommunities
 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mdupont/OpenLetterToFreeSoftwareCommunitiesaction=editredlink=1
 
 
 
 - WP:WEBHOST http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WEBHOST -
 Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia,
  nothing
 useful to Wikipedia
 
 
   thank,
  mike


 How would people from Kosovo or Albania find all those user pages?

 Fred



Well, we had been sharing that open letter link all over the internet, and
the team there had been helping with it,
I think that i posted it on the portals as well. We should do more for
outreach, there was a wikipedia 10 party in prishtina.
mike


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Re: [Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

2011-04-25 Thread Milos Rancic
On 04/26/2011 03:56 AM, John Vandenberg wrote:
 (BTW, related to that, may folk from en.wp raise requirements for so
 called consensus related to page deletion? Something like at least
 five users with at least 500 edits would save many useful material from
 systemic trolling.)
 
 Do any other wikis have similar thresholds?

If I remember well, sr.wp has some thresholds related to policy
decisions. Not sure about deletion; but RfD on sr.wp are far from en.wp
traffic.

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