Re: [Foundation-l] The Fox Article

2010-05-08 Thread teun spaans
Would it stand any chance to file against Foxnews for slaunder?
It seems they are also actively approaching organizations who donated
support to wikimedia.

teun

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Techman224 techman...@techman224.comwrote:

 It seems like Fox News can't get enough. Fox News has a history of being
 the opposite of its so-called fair and balance reporting. I think that
 they went too far with saying that“Wikipedia’s continued interest in
 child sexual exploitation is troubling not only because the site hosts some
 questionable images, but because it can easily serve as a gateway to other
 sites containing child pornography,

 I'm pretty sure 100% that Wikimedia doesn't support child porn in any way,
 plus these images are art that were created so long also they are in public
 domain, and if they were child porn, they would be removed already.
 I also know that Erik Möller does not support child porn. If he did, he
 wouldn't be at the foundation right now.

 Fox News went too far with this, and they should actually investigate the
 story before making accusations. Fox News is biased.

 Techman224


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Re: [Foundation-l] The Fox Article

2010-05-08 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:55 AM, teun spaans teun.spa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Would it stand any chance to file against Foxnews for slaunder?
 It seems they are also actively approaching organizations who donated
 support to wikimedia.

The recent mass deletions have made it harder to refute their
outrageous claims— since they can now state that these images
previously existed but must have been deleted.

Images tagged for deletion — though some were still
 viewable Friday afternoon — include pictures of men,
 women and young girls involved in a range of sex acts
 with each other and, in some cases, with animals.

I have no doubt that this is referring to any of many 18th century
drawings of historic and artistic interest which we still have.  For
example, as was pointed out on commons, it could even be describing an
image like this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Leda_Melzi_Uffizi.jpg  (though
it was probably describing something more raunchy, some of the french
drawings from the 1880s are pretty crazy)

In any case, I've never seen _photographs_ meeting the above
description on commons.

Sadly we can no longer take the easy path of combating the outrageous
claims of child porn by pointing to categories such as
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Pedophilia filled with old
drawings sourced from the US library of congress and point out that
_this_ is what Fox and Sanger are complaining about — because now
people will just believe that there previously was something else
there which we've since hidden.

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[Foundation-l] The Fox Article

2010-05-07 Thread Fred Bauder
Updated April 27, 2010
Wikipedia Distributing Child Porn, Co-Founder Tells FBI

The parent company of Wikipedia is knowingly distributing child
pornography, the co-founder of the online encyclopedia says, and he's
imploring the FBI to investigate.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/27/wikipedia-child-porn-larry-sanger-fbi/


Erik Möller is particularly unfair.

Fred Bauder


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Re: [Foundation-l] The Fox Article

2010-05-07 Thread Nathan
You read that article, and what you got from it is that *Eric* is
being unfair? Wow.

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Re: [Foundation-l] The Fox Article

2010-05-07 Thread Kim Bruning
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 06:49:06PM -0400, Nathan wrote:
 You read that article, and what you got from it is that *Eric* is
 being unfair? Wow.

I think he means they're being unfair to Eric :-)

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Re: [Foundation-l] The Fox Article

2010-05-07 Thread Techman224
It seems like Fox News can't get enough. Fox News has a history of being the 
opposite of its so-called fair and balance reporting. I think that they went 
too far with saying that“Wikipedia’s continued interest in child sexual 
exploitation is troubling not only because the site hosts some questionable 
images, but because it can easily serve as a gateway to other sites containing 
child pornography, 

I'm pretty sure 100% that Wikimedia doesn't support child porn in any way, plus 
these images are art that were created so long also they are in public domain, 
and if they were child porn, they would be removed already.
I also know that Erik Möller does not support child porn. If he did, he 
wouldn't be at the foundation right now.

Fox News went too far with this, and they should actually investigate the story 
before making accusations. Fox News is biased.

Techman224

On 2010-05-07, at 5:44 PM, Fred Bauder wrote:

 Updated April 27, 2010
 Wikipedia Distributing Child Porn, Co-Founder Tells FBI
 
 The parent company of Wikipedia is knowingly distributing child
 pornography, the co-founder of the online encyclopedia says, and he's
 imploring the FBI to investigate.
 
 http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/27/wikipedia-child-porn-larry-sanger-fbi/
 
 
 Erik Möller is particularly unfair.
 
 Fred Bauder
 
 
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