Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-08 Thread Itzik Edri
JFI...

I Just finish upload about 15 videos you our channel on youtube. the editor
is working on the rest of them, and we uploading them (again, very heavy
files..). As I said, I hope that until of the month we will finish edit,
upload, and tag them..

http://www.youtube.com/WikimediaIL


Itzik

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.czwrote:

 Hi there,

 I think WMF should set up some quality measures to make sure there
 actually is some reasonable online output from every Wikimedia conference.
 There might be thousands of editors not being able to attend but wanting to
 watch what was going on. Now you have to dig and beg for any slides or video
 on Commons. I do not know the decision process for a location but so far
 almost every host failed miserably to deliver some reasonable online content
 like videos and slides from the presentations.

 Kozuch

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-08 Thread Kim Bruning
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 04:40:13PM +0300, Itzik Edri wrote:
 JFI...
 
 I Just finish upload about 15 videos you our channel on youtube. the editor
 is working on the rest of them, and we uploading them (again, very heavy
 files..). As I said, I hope that until of the month we will finish edit,
 upload, and tag them..
 
 http://www.youtube.com/WikimediaIL


3 3 3 \o/ 3 3 3

sincerely,
Kim Bruning


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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-07 Thread Kim Bruning
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:44:58AM +0200, Mike Dupont wrote:
 Hi,
 we have been using archive.org for our conference videos, it works pretty
 good.
 mike

\o/

Yes, and the we in this case are AWESOME people. :-D

(if only because they make the trains run on time... I mean... get
the videos online!)

sincerely,
Kim (Yay FLOSSK!) Bruning 

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-06 Thread Kozuch
Phoebe,

as a board member, can you make sure no more decision on next Wikimania host is 
made unless something like a propper conference content guideline is created 
and made mandatory for the next host?

My guideline proposal:
- presentations have to made accesible under free license
- host will put all presentations and video footage online within X days of end 
of conference (under free license again)

I think this would be enough and any host would be happy to comply.

Cheers,
Kozuch

  Původní zpráva 
 Od: phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com
 Předmět: Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations
 Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)
 Datum: 03.9.2011 20:04:20
 
 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well, it seems that every year we choose locations that for one reason or
  the other are likely not to be accessible to some groups or nationality (I
  hear complaints every year about these issues)(no judgements, just a fact).
  So I agree that this uploading issue should be faced once for all,
  setting up a workflow with WMF technicians that would allow videos and
  slides to be online in reasonable time.
 
  Aubrey
 
 
 Yes!  if we can set up a system for media upload *before* the next
 conference to try and address this issue, which does come up every
 year, that would be fantastic.
 
 Copying wikitech :) The problem: how and where should we annually
 upload video and slides from ~100 conference presentations, keeping
 them freely  easily accessible and the metadata (such as links to
 papers, submission pages, wikipages of notes, etc) intact?
 
 -- phoebe
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-06 Thread Kim Bruning
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 10:38:14PM +0200, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) wrote:
 Phoebe,
 
 as a board member, can you make sure no more decision on next Wikimania host 
 is made unless something like a propper conference content guideline is 
 created and made mandatory for the next host?
 
 My guideline proposal:
 - presentations have to made accesible under free license
 - host will put all presentations and video footage online within X days of 
 end of conference (under free license again)
 
 I think this would be enough and any host would be happy to comply.

So far, only Kosovo and Albania would be capable of pulling it off though O:-)

sincerely,
Kim Bruning (Who was very impressed by the FLOSSK folks)

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-06 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi,
we have been using archive.org for our conference videos, it works pretty
good.
mike

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.czwrote:

 Hi there,

 I think WMF should set up some quality measures to make sure there
 actually is some reasonable online output from every Wikimedia conference.
 There might be thousands of editors not being able to attend but wanting to
 watch what was going on. Now you have to dig and beg for any slides or video
 on Commons. I do not know the decision process for a location but so far
 almost every host failed miserably to deliver some reasonable online content
 like videos and slides from the presentations.

 Kozuch

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-04 Thread Michael Dale
It will be a lot easier to import from YouTube once Timed media handler adds 
support for webm to commons. If you check out the wikivideo-l and commons lists 
for some recent example YouTube to commons scripts.  I know this is not super 
useful info right this second, but there is hope on the horizon.

peace,
--michael

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From: Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations 
Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)
Date: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 2:40 pm


Hi,

As I said before - all Wikimania sessions had been recorded (in HD format!).
As everyone who work with video know, to produce 120 hours of HD videos, is
not an easy thing at all.

We had to finish a lot of administrative work which related to Wikimania,
and we just back to take care for this issue - to edit, decode and upload.
Videos are already on their way online to Youtube and we hope to upload all
of them until the end of the month. After we will finish that, we will need
to find more time again to decode them and compress them so we can upload to
Commons (every decode file who been uploads right now to youtube is about
3-4GB).

All the footage are backup on two hard drive, one that belong to Wikimedia
Israel and one which will be sent to WMF for archive. So we have all the
data, and it is only matter of time. Be patients please.

Itzik

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.czwrote:

 Hi there,

 I think WMF should set up some quality measures to make sure there
 actually is some reasonable online output from every Wikimedia conference.
 There might be thousands of editors not being able to attend but wanting to
 watch what was going on. Now you have to dig and beg for any slides or video
 on Commons. I do not know the decision process for a location but so far
 almost every host failed miserably to deliver some reasonable online content
 like videos and slides from the presentations.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 September 2011 21:44, Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 It will be a lot easier to import from YouTube once Timed media handler adds 
 support for webm to commons. If you check out the wikivideo-l and commons 
 lists for some recent example YouTube to commons scripts.  I know this is not 
 super useful info right this second, but there is hope on the horizon.


How's Timed Media Handler (which will also allow WebM/VP8) going? ETA?


- d.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-04 Thread Samuel Klein
For future Wikimanias, it may be helpful to have a small team led by a
video editing lead, that is expected to start their work at Wikimania
and finish two weeks after, to handle all of the video editing and
uploading.  Including a contract with / sponsorship by a professional
videography shop that can help with the peak load.  This is a small
line in the budget, an additional core volunteer, and makes a big
difference to people who want to catch up on the event while it is
still fresh.

SJ,
still feeling guilty that he never tracked down the video of the Web
1.0 elevator pitch contest from Wikimania 2006


On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote:
 Hi,

 As I said before - all Wikimania sessions had been recorded (in HD format!).
 As everyone who work with video know, to produce 120 hours of HD videos, is
 not an easy thing at all.

 We had to finish a lot of administrative work which related to Wikimania,
 and we just back to take care for this issue - to edit, decode and upload.
 Videos are already on their way online to Youtube and we hope to upload all
 of them until the end of the month. After we will finish that, we will need
 to find more time again to decode them and compress them so we can upload to
 Commons (every decode file who been uploads right now to youtube is about
 3-4GB).

 All the footage are backup on two hard drive, one that belong to Wikimedia
 Israel and one which will be sent to WMF for archive. So we have all the
 data, and it is only matter of time. Be patients please.

 Itzik

 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) 
 garba...@seznam.czwrote:

 Hi there,

 I think WMF should set up some quality measures to make sure there
 actually is some reasonable online output from every Wikimedia conference.
 There might be thousands of editors not being able to attend but wanting to
 watch what was going on. Now you have to dig and beg for any slides or video
 on Commons. I do not know the decision process for a location but so far
 almost every host failed miserably to deliver some reasonable online content
 like videos and slides from the presentations.

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[Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread Kozuch
Hi there,

I think WMF should set up some quality measures to make sure there actually 
is some reasonable online output from every Wikimedia conference. There might 
be thousands of editors not being able to attend but wanting to watch what was 
going on. Now you have to dig and beg for any slides or video on Commons. I do 
not know the decision process for a location but so far almost every host 
failed miserably to deliver some reasonable online content like videos and 
slides from the presentations.

Kozuch

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread Béria Lima
not that difficult to find.

Slides:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2011_presentation_slides

Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaIL
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fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*


On 3 September 2011 10:02, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz wrote:

 Hi there,

 I think WMF should set up some quality measures to make sure there
 actually is some reasonable online output from every Wikimedia conference.
 There might be thousands of editors not being able to attend but wanting to
 watch what was going on. Now you have to dig and beg for any slides or video
 on Commons. I do not know the decision process for a location but so far
 almost every host failed miserably to deliver some reasonable online content
 like videos and slides from the presentations.

 Kozuch

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread church.of.emacs.ml
On 09/03/2011 11:07 AM, Béria Lima wrote:
 Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaIL

Only very few videos are online (actually only 5 sessions). Most of the
presentations are missing.

Regards,
Tobias



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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread Kozuch
I knew about these links. What I say is its a tragedy that people have to 
upload files by themselves and there is no streamlined process of:
1) creating the media centrally (in case of video)
2) getting it online all at once

That is all.

  Původní zpráva 
 Od: Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com
 Předmět: Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations
 Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)
 Datum: 03.9.2011 11:07:40
 
 not that difficult to find.
 
 Slides:
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2011_presentation_slides
 
 Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaIL
 _
 *Béria Lima*
 
 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
 acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
 fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
 
 
 On 3 September 2011 10:02, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz wrote:
 
  Hi there,
 
  I think WMF should set up some quality measures to make sure there
  actually is some reasonable online output from every Wikimedia conference.
  There might be thousands of editors not being able to attend but wanting to
  watch what was going on. Now you have to dig and beg for any slides or video
  on Commons. I do not know the decision process for a location but so far
  almost every host failed miserably to deliver some reasonable online content
  like videos and slides from the presentations.
 
  Kozuch
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread Béria Lima
You know how many videos are there to be uploaded? How big those videos are?
And you know what the organizers are doing since Wikimania ends?

No one of the videos can go to Wikimedia Commons without a bugzilla request.


And btw, all presentations can be uploaded in commons by the speakers.
_
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acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*


2011/9/3 Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz

 I knew about these links. What I say is its a tragedy that people have to
 upload files by themselves and there is no streamlined process of:
 1) creating the media centrally (in case of video)
 2) getting it online all at once

 That is all.

   Původní zpráva 
  Od: Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com
  Předmět: Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations
  Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)
  Datum: 03.9.2011 11:07:40
  
  not that difficult to find.
 
  Slides:
 
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2011_presentation_slides
 
  Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaIL
  _
  *Béria Lima*
 
  *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre
  acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
  fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
 
 
  On 3 September 2011 10:02, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz
 wrote:
 
   Hi there,
  
   I think WMF should set up some quality measures to make sure there
   actually is some reasonable online output from every Wikimedia
 conference.
   There might be thousands of editors not being able to attend but
 wanting to
   watch what was going on. Now you have to dig and beg for any slides or
 video
   on Commons. I do not know the decision process for a location but so
 far
   almost every host failed miserably to deliver some reasonable online
 content
   like videos and slides from the presentations.
  
   Kozuch
  
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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread Thomas Dalton
2011/9/3 Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com:
 No one of the videos can go to Wikimedia Commons without a bugzilla request.

That would seem to be a problem. If you are making separate bugzilla
requests for each video, you need to come up with a better process.
Either make one request for all the videos, or make a request to be
given the technical power needed to just do it yourself.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread K. Peachey
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/9/3 Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com:
 That would seem to be a problem. If you are making separate bugzilla
 requests for each video, you need to come up with a better process.
 Either make one request for all the videos, or make a request to be
 given the technical power needed to just do it yourself.
Um no, only one request is needed, You just need to link to somewhere
where the video files can be easily accessed so they can be
transferred. As for requesting technical access to do that, that would
involve shell access to the servers so that is likely never to happen.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread Andrea Zanni
Well, it seems that every year we choose locations that for one reason or
the other are likely not to be accessible to some groups or nationality (I
hear complaints every year about these issues)(no judgements, just a fact).
So I agree that this uploading issue should be faced once for all,
setting up a workflow with WMF technicians that would allow videos and
slides to be online in reasonable time.

Aubrey

2011/9/3 K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com

 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  2011/9/3 Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com:
  That would seem to be a problem. If you are making separate bugzilla
  requests for each video, you need to come up with a better process.
  Either make one request for all the videos, or make a request to be
  given the technical power needed to just do it yourself.
 Um no, only one request is needed, You just need to link to somewhere
 where the video files can be easily accessed so they can be
 transferred. As for requesting technical access to do that, that would
 involve shell access to the servers so that is likely never to happen.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread Béria Lima
Just for your information: I did not go to Wikimania 2011 (or any of the
previous one), so please don't put anyone in the list of people with the
luxury to attending international conferences every year.
_
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http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

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2011/9/3 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com

 A bit disappointed to see posts like this. Most of us don't have the luxury
 of attending international conferences every year, but that doesn't mean
 we're not interested to know what happened there. Videos should be uploaded
 and most popular presentations should be subtitled into the most popular
 languages (I recognize that subtitling long videos is a huge time suck for
 volunteers- but in an *ideal* world this would happen)


 2011/9/3 Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com

  You know how many videos are there to be uploaded? How big those videos
  are?
  And you know what the organizers are doing since Wikimania ends?
 
  No one of the videos can go to Wikimedia Commons without a bugzilla
  request.
 
 
  And btw, all presentations can be uploaded in commons by the speakers.
  _
  *Béria Lima*
 
  *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
  livre
  acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
  fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
 
 
  2011/9/3 Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz
 
   I knew about these links. What I say is its a tragedy that people have
 to
   upload files by themselves and there is no streamlined process of:
   1) creating the media centrally (in case of video)
   2) getting it online all at once
  
   That is all.
  
 Původní zpráva 
Od: Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com
Předmět: Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from
  presentations
Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)
Datum: 03.9.2011 11:07:40

not that difficult to find.
   
Slides:
   
  
 
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2011_presentation_slides
   
Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaIL
_
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*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de
 ter
   livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
 estamos
  a
fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
   
   
On 3 September 2011 10:02, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz
   wrote:
   
 Hi there,

 I think WMF should set up some quality measures to make sure
 there
 actually is some reasonable online output from every Wikimedia
   conference.
 There might be thousands of editors not being able to attend but
   wanting to
 watch what was going on. Now you have to dig and beg for any slides
  or
   video
 on Commons. I do not know the decision process for a location but
 so
   far
 almost every host failed miserably to deliver some reasonable
 online
   content
 like videos and slides from the presentations.

 Kozuch

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, it seems that every year we choose locations that for one reason or
 the other are likely not to be accessible to some groups or nationality (I
 hear complaints every year about these issues)(no judgements, just a fact).
 So I agree that this uploading issue should be faced once for all,
 setting up a workflow with WMF technicians that would allow videos and
 slides to be online in reasonable time.

 Aubrey


Yes!  if we can set up a system for media upload *before* the next
conference to try and address this issue, which does come up every
year, that would be fantastic.

Copying wikitech :) The problem: how and where should we annually
upload video and slides from ~100 conference presentations, keeping
them freely  easily accessible and the metadata (such as links to
papers, submission pages, wikipages of notes, etc) intact?

-- phoebe

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Actually, in Haifa I did not visit a lot of presentations,
intentionally, because I thought they were recorded and going to be
uploaded. I used the time in Haifa to talk to people and make new
friends...
Ziko

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The Netherlands
http://zikoblog.wordpress.com/

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Re: [Foundation-l] Tragedy: videos and slides from presentations Wikimanias (lately 2011 in Haifa)

2011-09-03 Thread Itzik Edri
Hi,

As I said before - all Wikimania sessions had been recorded (in HD format!).
As everyone who work with video know, to produce 120 hours of HD videos, is
not an easy thing at all.

We had to finish a lot of administrative work which related to Wikimania,
and we just back to take care for this issue - to edit, decode and upload.
Videos are already on their way online to Youtube and we hope to upload all
of them until the end of the month. After we will finish that, we will need
to find more time again to decode them and compress them so we can upload to
Commons (every decode file who been uploads right now to youtube is about
3-4GB).

All the footage are backup on two hard drive, one that belong to Wikimedia
Israel and one which will be sent to WMF for archive. So we have all the
data, and it is only matter of time. Be patients please.

Itzik

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.czwrote:

 Hi there,

 I think WMF should set up some quality measures to make sure there
 actually is some reasonable online output from every Wikimedia conference.
 There might be thousands of editors not being able to attend but wanting to
 watch what was going on. Now you have to dig and beg for any slides or video
 on Commons. I do not know the decision process for a location but so far
 almost every host failed miserably to deliver some reasonable online content
 like videos and slides from the presentations.

 Kozuch

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