Re: an open-audit voting system for GNOME elections

2007-03-22 Thread Dave Neary

Hi Ben,

Ben Adida wrote:
 Currently, I am developing this using HTML+Javascript with *some* calls
 into the JVM for crypto. I may be able to eventually do these in pure
 Javascript, especially if there's a strong need, though I am hoping
 that's not necessary... BigNum in Javascript is going to be quite slow.
 That said, if this continues to be an issue (if Java isn't released
 under the GPL quickly enough), then definitely keep me posted.

I imagine that if you test that this works with a Free JVM such as Kaffe
that there won't be any issue.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
 But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something
 which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will
 exclude anything outside North America and Europe.
I think excluding NA would be reasonable as well - there are so many
OSS conferences on the other side of the pond, please leave something
to good old Europe:)

Cheers,

Sergey
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Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Dave Neary wrote:

 But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something
 which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will
 exclude anything outside North America and Europe.

Or, in short unless a conference outside NA or EU reimburses travel
expenses for attendees/speakers a Regional GNOME Conference or a GUADAC
with developer participation from NA or EU is effectively ruled out.
Hmm...kind of puts regional organisers between rock(s) and hard place(s)
since it will raise the sponsorship and attendance fees in order to
ensure crowd attendance and also meet the objective of herding the cats
etc etc

:Sankarshan



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Re: Regional gatherings ROCK! [Was: GUADEC 2008]

2007-03-22 Thread Murray Cumming
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 10:12 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
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 Jeff Waugh wrote:
 
  These are a hugely important part of local and worldwide GNOME culture and
  community development. Perhaps a GNOME meeting at FOSS.IN would be a good
  way to kickstart something in India?
 
 That's a kickstart but I was thinking more on GUADAC :) note the 'A',
 although the question does remain to be asked how many of the GNOME
 folks from EU also get to or like to travel to India

It should be perfectly doable, if there's a team that can make it
happen. Particularly if the higher travel costs can be offset by reduced
accommodation costs. LCA manages it in Australia despite the costs.

I'd love it.

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Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Dave Neary

Hi,

Sergey Udaltsov wrote:
 I think excluding NA would be reasonable as well - there are so many
 OSS conferences on the other side of the pond, please leave something
 to good old Europe:)

To me the best free software conferences around aren't in the US -
FOSDEM, aKademy, LSM, GUADEC, OLS, LCA, FOSS.IN, CeBIT, LinuxTag...

Perhaps the biggest free software business conferences are in the US
(your LinuxWorlds and OSCons of the world), but all the best community
conferences happen outside the US.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
 Perhaps the biggest free software business conferences are in the US
 (your LinuxWorlds and OSCons of the world), but all the best community
 conferences happen outside the US.
OK, then let's keep it this way:)

Sergey
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Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Alan Cox
 But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something
 which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will
 exclude anything outside North America and Europe.

That depends upon the time of year and location. The bit of North
America which is civilised to visitors (Canada) can be very pricy in
summer but very very cheap in winter [guess why]. This is a problem with
OLS.

Mexico has some claim to be the original home of Gnome...

Alan
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Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Luke Stroven

   I'll footnotes it.
  
  Hrm, except it's down right now. Boh!
 
 Darn thunderstorms anyways.
 
 Its back up ;)

Thanks Stro, unsung hero! (Rhymes for great justice!)

- Jeff

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Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Hubert Figuiere
Alan Cox wrote:
 But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something
 which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will
 exclude anything outside North America and Europe.
 
 That depends upon the time of year and location. The bit of North
 America which is civilised to visitors (Canada) can be very pricy in
 summer but very very cheap in winter [guess why]. This is a problem with
 OLS.

Alan,

Also don't forget that Ottawa (since you mention the case of OLS) by
itself is not the best destination as, despite being the Nation's
Capital, its airport route is barely direct. Most of people will have to
fly through Toronto (YYZ) or Montreal (YUL), and depending in the
airline, they might a non negligible cost to add for this last leg to
Ottawa (YOW).

That said if there is any proposal for Canada (Montreal is IMHO a better
choice than Ottawa), count me in :-)


Hub
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Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Hubert Figuiere

 That said if there is any proposal for Canada (Montreal is IMHO a better
 choice than Ottawa), count me in :-)

Where necessary, and in this case I think it is, we should be very clear
about GNOME's geopolitical view of the world: Quebecistan is not in Europe.

- Jeff

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Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Tristan Van Berkom
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 01:35 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=Hubert Figuiere
 
  That said if there is any proposal for Canada (Montreal is IMHO a better
  choice than Ottawa), count me in :-)
 
 Where necessary, and in this case I think it is, we should be very clear
 about GNOME's geopolitical view of the world: Quebecistan is not in Europe.
 

Who said Quebec is in Europe ? Being one of the biggest regions in
North America I'd think it would be hard to miss on the map,
North America wasnt on the excluded list last I checked, is it ?

Anyway, I dont expect to be going to any oversees FOSS related
conferences but if there was one in Canada (and I must stress
that Ottawa is one of the most boring places I've been to) then
as hub says count me in :)

Cheers,
-Tristan


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Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 10:37 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
 
 Does that mean that candidates outside the EU would be considered? Not
 sure - we would need to discuss it.
 
 But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is
 something
 which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will
 exclude anything outside North America and Europe. 

/me fancies a GUADEC in Dubai.

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 Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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