Re: Wiki text licensing

2011-03-16 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org a écrit:

 (I changed the Subject because I recommend that we not describe
 potentially useful works of software documentation works as content.
 That term denigrates the works.

 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html@Content for the
 reason.)

I believe the aforementioned URL is incorrect.  The correct one would be
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Content.

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Re: Wiki text licensing

2011-03-16 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:25:17 +0100
Dodji Seketeli do...@seketeli.org wrote:

 Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org a écrit:
 
  (I changed the Subject because I recommend that we not describe
  potentially useful works of software documentation works as content.
  That term denigrates the works.
 
  See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html@Content for the
  reason.)
 
 I believe the aforementioned URL is incorrect.  The correct one would be
 http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Content.

I am slightly confused - is there no intent to relicense and diagrams ?
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Stock trademark licensing agreements?

2011-03-16 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all,

In one project I work with I have been trying to convince the project,
which has a very traditional all rights reserved trademark policy,
that it is worthwhile lowering the bar for certain classes of community
activities. My arguments that we should have a broader fair use
statement has apparently not gained traction - my next idea is to have a
small number of pre-cooked trademark licenses for common activities
(like: I want to run a local event, I want to run a fan website, I
want to get some merchandise printed) and have these on the website so
that all concerned are aware up front what the expectations are when you
do these things, and to give very simple click-through agreements to
lower the overhead of dealing with things like these.

A community website, for example, might have a guideline that there be a
clear disclaimer that the site is not official, and that content on the
site does not adversely affect the reputation of the project. A
community event license might have guidelines for event naming, visual
identity, etc.

This was the idea behind the GNOME user group agreement. Has anyone else
done anything similar? Did it help the community feel more control over
the project brand?

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: Stock trademark licensing agreements?

2011-03-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 16 mars 2011, à 16:06 +0100, Dave Neary a écrit :
[...]

 This was the idea behind the GNOME user group agreement. Has anyone else
 done anything similar? Did it help the community feel more control over
 the project brand?

openSUSE has trademark guidelines:
 http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Trademark_guidelines

The guidelines explicitly authorizes some common uses for the openSUSE
trademark, with no form to fill.

They're being improved right now, and the latest draft can be seen at:
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2011-03/msg00321.html

I do believe it did help the community feel more control, yes.

Of course, that's a bit different than in the GNOME case: the general
feeling before those guidelines was that the trademark was completely
controlled by Novell (who owned it) -- and we can't simply compare a
company with lawyers, like Novell, to the GNOME Foundation. But it did
help :-)

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: Stock trademark licensing agreements?

2011-03-16 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Vincent Untz wrote:
 openSUSE has trademark guidelines:
  http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Trademark_guidelines
 
 The guidelines explicitly authorizes some common uses for the openSUSE
 trademark, with no form to fill.

Good guidelines for what the holder is OK with are great - but not quite
what I was hoping for. I'm thinking more along the lines of
http://foundation.gnome.org/licensing/usergroup/

This is stuff which falls outside of the normal guidelines, that we
won't let everyone do, but which we're happy for some people to do,
under certain conditions.

By giving a license, we deal with the Trademark law requires you to
police your mark constraint, while also allowing people to do stuff
we're OK with without putting too many barriers in their way.

Cheers,
Dave.

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