Re: Proposal - merge the Foundation blog into gnome.org
Ping. Does someone who is on the board want to comment? How do we take this forward? Allan 2011/11/30 Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org: On Wed, 30 Nov 2011, Dave Neary wrote: I'm sure there are a few people who would contest this - who are consciously not foundation members for some reason, while being GNOME hackers - and there is also the technical difficulty of where you draw the line for membership rights like having a vote in elections, but I think by and large, defining the membership of the GNOME Foundation as people involved in the GNOME project is fine. I'd be interested to hear why people don't feel they want to be Foundation members. I think it would be beneficial for the project if there is a closer relationship between being a contributor and being a Foundation member. So would I! But I know that in the past when we've talked about the value of foundation membership, there have been one or two people who said I don't want to be a foundation member. Things are changing on that side, we (Membership Committee) had several discussions and meetings with a few members of the Board about the guidelines and policies to adopt when renewing or accepting new Foundation members. If there is a problem, people should take it to foundation-list and discuss a possible solution, saying I don't want to be a Foundation member without a rationale or a motivation will definitely take us no where. During past elections (June 2011) we had some issues with the renewals notifications, someone mailed me saying there was a problem, the Committee had a meeting and everything is going great now or should I start talking about the criticisms we received about our application's form? The Foundation website is under a complete facelift and it'll go live really soon with a brand new application's page, more user-friendly with less fields and without the so-bad checkbox people out there hate so much. This is the way to solve problems and I will never stop saying that every GNOME hacker is *welcome* to join the Foundation, the way I see the GNOME Foundation is it being a big family, we should help each other and we should collaborate to make GNOME a better place for everyone. Fighting each other is *not* the way to go, please think about that. cheers, Andrea ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Proposal - merge the Foundation blog into gnome.org
On 2011-12-05 at 10:17, Allan Day wrote: Ping. Does someone who is on the board want to comment? How do we take this forward? personally, I have no issues whatsoever with the proposed move; on the other hand, I have had no real interactions with the foundation's blog, so I'm probably not the best one to ask. :-) we can definitely put this on the agenda for the next board meeting, if need be, but I think the matter can be easily resolved without it. ciao, Emmanuele. -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Proposal - merge the Foundation blog into gnome.org
Allan: On 12/ 5/11 04:17 AM, Allan Day wrote: Ping. Does someone who is on the board want to comment? How do we take this forward? I very much like the idea of streamlining the way we get the word out, so I think merging the new feed for gnome.org and the Foundation blog. We could probably do other things to make the News more visible, like make recent news more visible on the GNOME front page(s) for a period of time. I believe that one reason there is a Foundation blog is because using it ensures that the news is visible on Planet. It would be ideal if we made sure that people on Planet saw the latest news, though this could probably be done in other ways aside from having a Foundation blog. Perhaps, as I suggested earlier, we could just integrate News into the Planet front page more tightly. I am not sure what you are asking, though, when you ask how do we take this forward. Is there disagreement about how we should set this up, or do we need help making the changes? For example, do you think we need to involve the sysadmin team? Brian 2011/11/30 Andrea Veria...@gnome.org: On Wed, 30 Nov 2011, Dave Neary wrote: I'm sure there are a few people who would contest this - who are consciously not foundation members for some reason, while being GNOME hackers - and there is also the technical difficulty of where you draw the line for membership rights like having a vote in elections, but I think by and large, defining the membership of the GNOME Foundation as people involved in the GNOME project is fine. I'd be interested to hear why people don't feel they want to be Foundation members. I think it would be beneficial for the project if there is a closer relationship between being a contributor and being a Foundation member. So would I! But I know that in the past when we've talked about the value of foundation membership, there have been one or two people who said I don't want to be a foundation member. Things are changing on that side, we (Membership Committee) had several discussions and meetings with a few members of the Board about the guidelines and policies to adopt when renewing or accepting new Foundation members. If there is a problem, people should take it to foundation-list and discuss a possible solution, saying I don't want to be a Foundation member without a rationale or a motivation will definitely take us no where. During past elections (June 2011) we had some issues with the renewals notifications, someone mailed me saying there was a problem, the Committee had a meeting and everything is going great now or should I start talking about the criticisms we received about our application's form? The Foundation website is under a complete facelift and it'll go live really soon with a brand new application's page, more user-friendly with less fields and without the so-bad checkbox people out there hate so much. This is the way to solve problems and I will never stop saying that every GNOME hacker is *welcome* to join the Foundation, the way I see the GNOME Foundation is it being a big family, we should help each other and we should collaborate to make GNOME a better place for everyone. Fighting each other is *not* the way to go, please think about that. cheers, Andrea ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Proposal - merge the Foundation blog into gnome.org
Allan, I think you proposed it and got some feedback and general support. Sounds like a plan to me. Thanks for making this happen! Stormy On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.comwrote: Allan: On 12/ 5/11 04:17 AM, Allan Day wrote: Ping. Does someone who is on the board want to comment? How do we take this forward? I very much like the idea of streamlining the way we get the word out, so I think merging the new feed for gnome.org and the Foundation blog. We could probably do other things to make the News more visible, like make recent news more visible on the GNOME front page(s) for a period of time. I believe that one reason there is a Foundation blog is because using it ensures that the news is visible on Planet. It would be ideal if we made sure that people on Planet saw the latest news, though this could probably be done in other ways aside from having a Foundation blog. Perhaps, as I suggested earlier, we could just integrate News into the Planet front page more tightly. I am not sure what you are asking, though, when you ask how do we take this forward. Is there disagreement about how we should set this up, or do we need help making the changes? For example, do you think we need to involve the sysadmin team? Brian 2011/11/30 Andrea Veria...@gnome.org: On Wed, 30 Nov 2011, Dave Neary wrote: I'm sure there are a few people who would contest this - who are consciously not foundation members for some reason, while being GNOME hackers - and there is also the technical difficulty of where you draw the line for membership rights like having a vote in elections, but I think by and large, defining the membership of the GNOME Foundation as people involved in the GNOME project is fine. I'd be interested to hear why people don't feel they want to be Foundation members. I think it would be beneficial for the project if there is a closer relationship between being a contributor and being a Foundation member. So would I! But I know that in the past when we've talked about the value of foundation membership, there have been one or two people who said I don't want to be a foundation member. Things are changing on that side, we (Membership Committee) had several discussions and meetings with a few members of the Board about the guidelines and policies to adopt when renewing or accepting new Foundation members. If there is a problem, people should take it to foundation-list and discuss a possible solution, saying I don't want to be a Foundation member without a rationale or a motivation will definitely take us no where. During past elections (June 2011) we had some issues with the renewals notifications, someone mailed me saying there was a problem, the Committee had a meeting and everything is going great now or should I start talking about the criticisms we received about our application's form? The Foundation website is under a complete facelift and it'll go live really soon with a brand new application's page, more user-friendly with less fields and without the so-bad checkbox people out there hate so much. This is the way to solve problems and I will never stop saying that every GNOME hacker is *welcome* to join the Foundation, the way I see the GNOME Foundation is it being a big family, we should help each other and we should collaborate to make GNOME a better place for everyone. Fighting each other is *not* the way to go, please think about that. cheers, Andrea __**_ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/**listinfo/foundation-listhttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list __**_ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/**listinfo/foundation-listhttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list __**_ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/**listinfo/foundation-listhttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
