Re: internal engagement
Le 04/03/2014 22:13, Jim Campbell a écrit : > I brought up the topic in the GNOME community on Google Plus shortly > after Karen's blog post about the topic: Well, having multiple communication channels is nice for outreach, but they can't replace official ones. I personnally follow nothing else than planet GNOME and the mailing lists, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. We'll know for next time :) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 18th, 2014
hi Germán; On 4 March 2014 20:05, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 10:15 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: >> wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140218 >> >> = Minutes for Tuesday, February 18th, 2014, 16:00 UTC = >> >> == Next Meeting == >> * Tuesday, February 25th, 2014, 16:00 UTC >> [...] >> * The Board discussed the direction of the GNOME Foundation and >> possibilities for the future > > May any of the directors elaborate more about the outcome of this > discussion? there is no "outcome" per se, right now, as the discussion is pretty much informal and still ongoing (as you may have noticed). some of the discussion was free flowing/mindstorming, some of it was rambling, some of it was more structured: engagement (internal and external), technical direction, fund raising, membership benefits, roles of the directors. ciao, Emmanuele. -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: internal engagement
Hi All, I brought up the topic in the GNOME community on Google Plus shortly after Karen's blog post about the topic: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JimCampbell/posts/NdPUm22fkkg My apologies for not bringing the discussion to the foundation and board's attention. Jim On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Tobias Mueller wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 11:24:40AM -0800, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > > How is that none of the directors noticed this to fix it? > That is not the case. I raised the point that no email hit f-l. But it was > not > considered to a problem as we decided to go with a call for bids. > > Cheers, > Tobi > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: internal engagement
Hi. On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 11:24:40AM -0800, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > How is that none of the directors noticed this to fix it? That is not the case. I raised the point that no email hit f-l. But it was not considered to a problem as we decided to go with a call for bids. Cheers, Tobi ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 18th, 2014
On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 10:15 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140218 > > = Minutes for Tuesday, February 18th, 2014, 16:00 UTC = > > == Next Meeting == > * Tuesday, February 25th, 2014, 16:00 UTC > [...] > * The Board discussed the direction of the GNOME Foundation and > possibilities for the future May any of the directors elaborate more about the outcome of this discussion? PS: Thanks Emmanuele for the minutes -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 25th, 2014
On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 20:03 +0100, Luc Pionchon wrote: > On 4 March 2014 19:51, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 10:15 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > >> wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140225 > >> > >> = Minutes for Tuesday, February 25th, 2014, 17:00 UTC = > >> > >> == Next Meeting == > >> * Monday, March 3rd, 2014, 16:00 UTC > >> [...] > >> * Should we set aside funding for a South American event box? > >>* '''ACTION''': Kat to ask South American events organisers for the > >> Foundation to sponsor an event box > >>* Expected cost: USD 1000 to USD 2500 > >>* https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/Grants/EventsBox > > > > This can turn out very expensive and inconvenient for people there. > > > > Have in mind that South America is bigger than appears in the map. Just > > for a reference, Ecuador -that tiny country in the map- looks smaller > > than France, but it is ~70,000 square kms bigger, it doubles size UK. > > interesting. > > France is about 550.000 km2, Ecuador seems to be 280.000 km2 and UK 240.000 > km2 Yeah, that happens when you get some information in metric and some in imperial and your brain is trained only for metric. -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: internal engagement
On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 00:55 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Fabiana Simões > wrote: > > [...] > > To a large extent, I always expected this to be an active > > communication channel between Foundation members and the board. The > > meeting notes and agenda are great, but they give very little insight > > about the milestones and major accomplishments we're hitting (and > > aiming to hit) as a Foundation. > > Unfortunately, previous boards have many attempts to have IRC meetings > and it's been poorly attended. So I'm not sure what would generate > interest in talking to the board? What about status reports from the > other teams? People cannot get engaged is they are unaware of the board whereabouts. Without engagement you are not going to generate interesting discussions. Just an example after reading the minutes recently sent: = Minutes for Tuesday, December 10th, 2013, 16:00 UTC = [...] * We should also ask on foundation-list for ideas * '''ACTION''': ... to reach out to foundation-list for ideas from the foundation members regarding the privacy campaign funds = Minutes for Tuesday, January 21th, 2013, 15:00 UTC = [...] * Status and plan for the security and privacy campaign's money * ... asked around generally for ideas * Not much feedback I don't see in the archives (December 2013-March 2014) a mail to foundation-list asking for ideas for the privacy campaign (please, correct me if I am wrong). So, it should not be strange that there was "Not much feedback". How is that none of the directors noticed this to fix it? -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 25th, 2014
Also to note that moving valuables would demand paying and handling customs paperwork. A box with 1000 of valuables can be $200 only for import tax, no matter the purpose. This can be avoided with temporal internment methods but that requires *lots* of time, legal entities established and still some money. And it is different from country to country. Regarding banners and stickers and such, South América is dirt cheap for producing those. So there would be little benefit with printed material. Money is still the better option. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 10:15 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: >> wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140225 >> >> = Minutes for Tuesday, February 25th, 2014, 17:00 UTC = >> >> == Next Meeting == >> * Monday, March 3rd, 2014, 16:00 UTC >> [...] >> * Should we set aside funding for a South American event box? >>* '''ACTION''': Kat to ask South American events organisers for the >> Foundation to sponsor an event box >>* Expected cost: USD 1000 to USD 2500 >>* https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/Grants/EventsBox > > This can turn out very expensive and inconvenient for people there. > > Have in mind that South America is bigger than appears in the map. Just > for a reference, Ecuador -that tiny country in the map- looks smaller > than France, but it is ~70,000 square kms bigger, it doubles size UK. > > So, sending the event box from Lima to Santiago is equivalent in > distance to Oslo-Lisbon, and Lima-Sao Paulo is equivalent in distance > than Moscow-Lisbon. That is without considering the distances to other > places within each country. > > The countries are not as well connected as in Europe. Sending an event > box two or three times between countries could become as expensive as > having two event boxes (courier, insurance, customs, etc.), something > that might not be affordable by local people. > > -- > Germán Poo-Caamaño > http://calcifer.org/ > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 25th, 2014
On 4 March 2014 19:51, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 10:15 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: >> wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140225 >> >> = Minutes for Tuesday, February 25th, 2014, 17:00 UTC = >> >> == Next Meeting == >> * Monday, March 3rd, 2014, 16:00 UTC >> [...] >> * Should we set aside funding for a South American event box? >>* '''ACTION''': Kat to ask South American events organisers for the >> Foundation to sponsor an event box >>* Expected cost: USD 1000 to USD 2500 >>* https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/Grants/EventsBox > > This can turn out very expensive and inconvenient for people there. > > Have in mind that South America is bigger than appears in the map. Just > for a reference, Ecuador -that tiny country in the map- looks smaller > than France, but it is ~70,000 square kms bigger, it doubles size UK. interesting. France is about 550.000 km2, Ecuador seems to be 280.000 km2 and UK 240.000 km2 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of March 3rd, 2014
hi Stormy; On 4 March 2014 15:14, Stormy Peters wrote: > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: >> == Board Meeting Agenda == >> * Give higher PayPal privileges to the treasurer >> * Avoid the bottleneck in case Rosanna is not available >> * '''ACTION''': Kat to ask Rosanna to increase her privileges on the >> PayPal account > > > If Rosanna was there, why is this an action item? that was just me being overzealous with the action items; it shouldn't have been one. >> * For the bank account we need somebody based in the US > > > If the bank requires this, that's one thing, but otherwise I don't think the > person needs to be US based. I think the general opinion was that you needed a US zip code, but Zana should be able to check if that's the case. ciao, Emmanuele. -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 25th, 2014
On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 10:15 +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140225 > > = Minutes for Tuesday, February 25th, 2014, 17:00 UTC = > > == Next Meeting == > * Monday, March 3rd, 2014, 16:00 UTC > [...] > * Should we set aside funding for a South American event box? >* '''ACTION''': Kat to ask South American events organisers for the > Foundation to sponsor an event box >* Expected cost: USD 1000 to USD 2500 >* https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/Grants/EventsBox This can turn out very expensive and inconvenient for people there. Have in mind that South America is bigger than appears in the map. Just for a reference, Ecuador -that tiny country in the map- looks smaller than France, but it is ~70,000 square kms bigger, it doubles size UK. So, sending the event box from Lima to Santiago is equivalent in distance to Oslo-Lisbon, and Lima-Sao Paulo is equivalent in distance than Moscow-Lisbon. That is without considering the distances to other places within each country. The countries are not as well connected as in Europe. Sending an event box two or three times between countries could become as expensive as having two event boxes (courier, insurance, customs, etc.), something that might not be affordable by local people. -- Germán Poo-Caamaño http://calcifer.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of March 3rd, 2014
Emmanuele, thanks for sending out minutes. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140303 > > = Minutes for Monday, March 3rd, 2014, 16:00 UTC = > > == Next Meeting == > * Tuesday, March 11th, 2014, 16:00 UTC > > == Attending == > * Rosanna Yuen > * Andreas Nilsson > * Karen Sandler > * Marina Zhurakhinskaya > * Emmanuele Bassi > * Tobias Mueller > * Joanmarie Diggs > * Sriram Ramkrishna > * Ekaterina Gerasimova > > === Regrets === > > === Missing === > > == Board Meeting Agenda == > * Give higher PayPal privileges to the treasurer > * Avoid the bottleneck in case Rosanna is not available > * '''ACTION''': Kat to ask Rosanna to increase her privileges on the > PayPal account > If Rosanna was there, why is this an action item? > * For the bank account we need somebody based in the US > If the bank requires this, that's one thing, but otherwise I don't think the person needs to be US based. Stormy ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Minutes for the Board meeting of March 3rd, 2014
wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140303 = Minutes for Monday, March 3rd, 2014, 16:00 UTC = == Next Meeting == * Tuesday, March 11th, 2014, 16:00 UTC == Attending == * Rosanna Yuen * Andreas Nilsson * Karen Sandler * Marina Zhurakhinskaya * Emmanuele Bassi * Tobias Mueller * Joanmarie Diggs * Sriram Ramkrishna * Ekaterina Gerasimova === Regrets === === Missing === == Board Meeting Agenda == * Give higher PayPal privileges to the treasurer * Avoid the bottleneck in case Rosanna is not available * '''ACTION''': Kat to ask Rosanna to increase her privileges on the PayPal account * For the bank account we need somebody based in the US * Karen already has access to the bank account * Hand over of the PayPal account from old treasurer to new treasurer should be part of the process * Sponsorship requests * https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/Hackfests/WestCoastSummit2014 * USD 5187.52 in total * accommodation: USD 670 * travel: USD 4417 * Sri is still working to get sponsorship from Intel * possibly for a local event * There are various potential attendees that are not foundation members * They have asked for membership * '''ACTION''': Sri to talk to the membership team to get a report on the applications of Kay and David * '''VOTE''': Sponsorship for the attendees to the West Coast Summit that are members of the foundation: unanimous * The board should give a poster/postcard as a thank you for Endless Mobile for hosting the hackfest at their offices * https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/DeveloperExperience2014 * USD 13068 total * accommodation: USD 4356 * travel: USD 8712 * note: Jon McCann asked to have his reimbursement earlier in order to book the travel * Kat and Emmanuele are on the attendees list * '''VOTE''': Sponsorship for the travel for the DX hackfest: +1 Andreas, Marina, Tobi, Sri, Joanie; Kat and Emmanuele abstain * '''ACTION''': Andreas to notify Allan and Alberto of the approval of the budget for the DX hackfest * Next meeting * Tuesday, March 11th 2014, 16:00 UTC * GNOME.Asia * Previous years we allocated USD 15,000 * Offset by sponsorship * '''VOTE''': Allocate USD 15,000 for GNOME.Asia: unanimous * '''ACTION''': Tobi, Karen to notify the GNOME.Asia organisers of the budget allocated * Report from the first QA team meeting * Attendees from: SUSE, Fedora * Centralisation of the QA work, as opposed to delegating it downstream * QA team as an entry point for new contributors * Decisions took during the meeting * UI automation * GSoC project == Discussed on the mailing list == * Ask Tiffany Yau to work on event planning * former OPW intern * enjoys event planning * Sri wants to get her on board for GUADEC == Completed Actions == * Karen to send an email to the board for a confcall with engagement team for strategising the press == Pending action items == * Andreas to put together a GNOME supporter card for our donors * Andreas to notify Allan and Alberto of the approval of the budget for the DX hackfest * Emmanuele to send Zana and Tobi an update on FoG donors gifts * Emmanuele to send hackers up for "adoption" the list of donors that want a postcard * Emmanuele to draft a date and time for the post-release meeting * Emmanuele to send a proposal to foundation-list about possible IRC meetings * Joanie to draft a proposal for the photography policy at GNOME conferences to discuss on foundation-list * Joanie and Karen to meet and discuss about the photography policy for GNOME events * Joanie to go over Michael Schumacher ideas on the Gimp funding processes and merge them with her ideas on the wiki * Kat to create a private wiki page on the web services accounts holders and passwords * Allan and Kat decided to go for a private git account instead for security reasons * Karen to write the Privacy policy for GNOME services * Karen and Tobi to continue pursuing the fund collection in Europe * Sri to investigate better uses of adsense/adwords on the GNOME websites * Sri to talk to the membership team to get a report on the applications of Kay and David * Tobi to talk to Andrea to move the PayPal data extraction scripts over to the GNOME infrastructure * Tobi, Karen to notify the GNOME.Asia organisers of the budget allocated -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Minutes for the Board meeting of February 25th, 2014
wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140225 = Minutes for Tuesday, February 25th, 2014, 17:00 UTC = == Next Meeting == * Monday, March 3rd, 2014, 16:00 UTC == Attending == * Rosanna Yuen * Andreas Nilsson * Karen Sandler * Marina Zhurakhinskaya * Emmanuele Bassi * Tobias Mueller * Joanmarie Diggs * Sriram Ramkrishna * Ekaterina Gerasimova === Regrets === === Missing === == Board Meeting Agenda == * GNOME and Fedora in PERU 2014 * Funding for t-shirts and banners * Julita requested USD 400 * Should we set aside funding for a South American event box? * '''ACTION''': Kat to ask South American events organisers for the Foundation to sponsor an event box * Expected cost: USD 1000 to USD 2500 * https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/Grants/EventsBox * '''VOTE''': USD 400 allocated for funding GNOME and Fedora in Peru 2014: unanimous * '''ACTION''': Kat to inform Julita of the funding approval for the GNOME and Fedora in Peru 2014 * Next meeting * Scheduled for Monday, March 3rd, 16:00 UTC == Completed Actions == * Kat to inform Julita of the funding approval for the GNOME and Fedora in Peru 2014 == Pending action items == * Andreas to put together a GNOME supporter card for our donors * Emmanuele to send Zana and Tobi an update on FoG donors gifts * Emmanuele to send hackers up for "adoption" the list of donors that want a postcard * Emmanuele to draft a date and time for the post-release meeting * Emmanuele to send a proposal to foundation-list about possible IRC meetings * Joanie to draft a proposal for the photography policy at GNOME conferences to discuss on foundation-list * Joanie and Karen to meet and discuss about the photography policy for GNOME events * Joanie to go over Michael Schumacher ideas on the Gimp funding processes and merge them with her ideas on the wiki * Kat to create a private wiki page on the web services accounts holders and passwords * Allan and Kat decided to go for a private git account instead for security reasons * Karen to write the Privacy policy for GNOME services * Karen and Tobi to continue pursuing the fund collection in Europe * Sri to investigate better uses of adsense/adwords on the GNOME websites * Tobi to talk to Andrea to move the PayPal data extraction scripts over to the GNOME infrastructure -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Minutes for the Board meeting of February 18th, 2014
wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140218 = Minutes for Tuesday, February 18th, 2014, 16:00 UTC = == Next Meeting == * Tuesday, February 25th, 2014, 16:00 UTC == Attending == * Rosanna Yuen * Andreas Nilsson * Karen Sandler * Marina Zhurakhinskaya * Emmanuele Bassi * Tobias Mueller * Joanmarie Diggs * Sriram Ramkrishna * Ekaterina Gerasimova === Regrets === === Missing === == Board Meeting Agenda == * Pitivi contract * Pitivi has a termination clause in the contract, for cause (in case the Foundation breaches the contract) * the Foundation has two termination clauses * termination for cause * termination based on Foundation's judgement * the second clause was introduced as a safety * Pitivi hackers asked to remove it * the Foundation should drop the latter clause * it's not very likely that we're ever going to use it * The Board discussed the direction of the GNOME Foundation and possibilities for the future == Discussed on the mailing list == == Completed Actions == * Rosanna to check if the reimbursement for Sindhu has been returned == Pending action items == * Andreas to put together a GNOME supporter card for our donors * Emmanuele to send Zana and Tobi an update on FoG donors gifts * Emmanuele to send hackers up for "adoption" the list of donors that want a postcard * Emmanuele to draft a date and time for the post-release meeting * Emmanuele to send a proposal to foundation-list about possible IRC meetings * Joanie to draft a proposal for the photography policy at GNOME conferences to discuss on foundation-list * Joanie and Karen to meet and discuss about the photography policy for GNOME events * Joanie to go over Michael Schumacher ideas on the Gimp funding processes and merge them with her ideas on the wiki * Kat to create a private wiki page on the web services accounts holders and passwords * Allan and Kat decided to go for a private git account instead for security reasons * Karen to write the Privacy policy for GNOME services * Karen and Tobi to continue pursuing the fund collection in Europe * Sri to investigate better uses of adsense/adwords on the GNOME websites * Tobi to talk to Andrea to move the PayPal data extraction scripts over to the GNOME infrastructure -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Minutes for the Board meeting of January 21st, 2014
wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140121 = Minutes for Tuesday, January 21th, 2013, 15:00 UTC = == Next Meeting == * Tuesday, February 4th, 2013, 16:00 UTC == Attending == * Rosanna Yuen * Andreas Nilsson * Karen Sandler * Marina Zhurakhinskaya * Emmanuele Bassi * Sriram Ramkrishna * Tobias Mueller * Ekaterina Gerasimova * Joanmarie Diggs == Board Meeting Agenda == * Pitivi campaign * Karen is following up with the Pitivi maintainers * The campaign scope is a bit unclear * Is it an official campaign? * Is is an endorsed campaign? * Different constraints between official and endorsed * Official campaigns are handled through the Foundation's infrastructure * Should we manage the campaign money? * The Foundation would be able to handle the money and hire the Pitivi maintainers as contractors * If we host the campaign on our infrastructure then we should also handle the money from the campaign * Improvements in Pitivi trickle down to GStreamer * Advisory board members are interested in the platform evolution and improvements * '''ACTION''': Karen to follow up with the Pitivi maintainers for their campaign * Status and plan for the security and privacy campaign's money * Karen asked around generally for ideas * Not much feedback * We should do what we did for the accessibility campaign * Create a call for bids with broad points * Get proposals and bids for them * Outstanding reimbursements * What is the status of the payments for the Mono Hackfest? * Receipts received from the organisers * Board needs to review them and authorise the reimbursement * '''ACTION''': Andreas and Emmanuele to review the Mono hackfest receipts * Any other pending reimbursements? * Soon we will have the documentation hackfest receipts * We should have a centralised place for the pending reimbursements, including which ones have been authorised by the board * Minutes and mailing list archives are not easy to use/parse * Use a private wiki page, like we do for the travel committee * General budget status * No budget yet * Bank account data is mostly up to date * PayPal account data is still not up to date * '''ACTION''': Karen, Kat, and Rosanna to have a meeting to finish the budget and tax information * Rosanna has been working on collating the tax-related data * Upcoming events * FOSDEM and Adboard meeting * Attendance: Sri, Tobi, Emmanuele, Kat * Discussion on GNOME technology and platform * Especially GTK * Points of discussion * How do we improve the feedback from non-GNOME users of GTK * Avoid disenfranchisement of non-GNOME users/platforms * Create a meeting place to get feedback and give a voice to non-GNOME/non-Linux users of the GNOME core platform * GNOME Asia * Confirmed to be co-locating with OpenSUSE * Tobi found a convenient flight for Beijing * Tobi has been helping out organising the event, and would represent the board * Kat submitted talks and wants to wait for approval for sponsorship * Travel sponsorship should go through the GNOME Asia team * GUADEC 2014 * '''ACTION''': Emmanuele to contact the local organisers for the status of the papers committee and CfP * West Coast Hackfest * Located in Portland * Buy in from kernel and plumbing developers * Apps sandboxing, GNOME Shell, and Wayland are the focus * Beginning of March * May get corporate funding from Intel * Travel report from Karen about Linux Conf Australia * Interested in the Outreach program * Karen had a couple of interviews * Fedora desktop group is pivoting on UX for developers * We should improve GNOME visibility at Fedora events == Completed Actions == * Karen to contact Tor, EFF, OTI for feedback and eventual funding for privacy work * Karen to circulate a new draft of the OPW mentor/student contracts == Pending action items == * Andreas to put together a GNOME supporter card for our donors * Andreas and Emmanuele to review the Mono hackfest receipts * Emmanuele to send Zana and Tobi an update on FoG donors gifts * Emmanuele to send hackers up for "adoption" the list of donors that want a postcard * Emmanuele to draft a date and time for the post-release meeting * Emmanuele to send a proposal to foundation-list about possible IRC meetings * Joanie to draft a proposal for the photography policy at GNOME conferences to discuss on foundation-list * Joanie and Karen to meet and discuss about the photography policy for GNOME events * Joanie to go over Michael Schumacher ideas on the Gimp funding processes and merge them with her ideas on the wiki * Kat to create a private wiki page on the web services accounts holders a nd passwords * Allan and Kat decided to go for a private git account instead for security reasons * Karen to write the Privacy policy for
Minutes for the Board meeting of February 4th, 2014
wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20140204 = Minutes for Tuesday, February 4th, 2013, 16:00 UTC = == Next Meeting == * Tuesday, February 18th, 2013, 16:00 UTC == Attending == * Rosanna Yuen * Andreas Nilsson * Karen Sandler * Marina Zhurakhinskaya * Emmanuele Bassi * Sriram Ramkrishna * Tobias Mueller * Ekaterina Gerasimova * Joanmarie Diggs === Regrets === === Missing === == Board Meeting Agenda == * Pitivi campaign * Karen drafted out an agreement * Standard contractor agreement, with a few tweaks like adding an authorized representative to show independence from OpenCreed for profit motives * Pitivi developers have brought up some comments and questions * Karen is working with them to improve the wording of the agreement * Status and plan for the security and privacy campaign's money * The board is reaching out to members of the community to go over the ideas on the wiki * More ideas are welcome * Outstanding reimbursements * Status of Dia GNOME reimbursements? * Andreas is going over the receipts this week * Any other pending reimbursements? * Documentation hackfest (soon) * FOSDEM (soon) * Kat created a private wiki page with the list of pending reimbursements for Rosanna to subscribe to * https://wiki.gnome.org/Travel/Private/Reimbursements (PRIVATE) * Mid-point batch of payments for OPW has been sent * General budget status * State of finance up to October is almost done * Status of 2013 Tax forms * Data gathering * We have asked for an extension * Common practice, nothing special * We have time until May * Upcoming events * GNOME Asia * The original plan was to co-locate with openSUSE conference * It is possible that GNOME.Asia is going to be stand-alone * GUADEC 2014 * Sponsorship brochure is done * The brochure is going to be sent once the website is up * The CfP is also blocking on the website * Website should be up soon * West Coast Hackfest * Venue is still undecided * Conference center in Portland * Discount rate for hotel * Other option (to maximize attendance) * San Francisco * Near Linux Foundation collaboration summit and Red Hat developers conf * Travel report from FOSDEM * Karen met with the Debian packages for GNOME and asked the current state of Debian * The Debian packagers feel demotivated by the current situation * They agreed to blog more on the issue * The Debian packagers asked for a technical position from the GNOME project for the use of systemd * Maybe have a joint statement with KDE as they moved to systemd as well * Involve other environments like XFCE * '''ACTION''': Karen and Emmanuele to draft a common/cross-desktop position on systemd * Karen talked to a Red Hat representative about funding * Ask the release team for a report on the state of the project * Keep the board updated * '''ACTION''': Sri to reach out to the release team for a report on the state of the project == Discussed on the mailing list == * GCompris switch to QML for iOS and Android support * The maintainer graciously informed the board beforehand * Effects on GSoC * GTK does not support Android and iOS, and there's no current effort for that; Bruno's effort alone would not be sufficient * Qt/QML has commercial interest to support those platforms == Completed Actions == * Karen to circulate a new draft of the OPW mentor/student contracts * Karen to contact Tor, EFF, OTI for feedback and eventual funding for privacy work * Karen to "call for ideas" for privacy work related bids at GUADEC and by blog/email to foundation-announce == Pending action items == * Andreas to put together a GNOME supporter card for our donors * Emmanuele to send Zana and Tobi an update on FoG donors gifts * Emmanuele to send hackers up for "adoption" the list of donors that want a postcard * Emmanuele to draft a date and time for the post-release meeting * Emmanuele to send a proposal to foundation-list about possible IRC meetings * Joanie to draft a proposal for the photography policy at GNOME conferences to discuss on foundation-list * Joanie and Karen to meet and discuss about the photography policy for GNOME events * Joanie to go over Michael Schumacher ideas on the Gimp funding processes and merge them with her ideas on the wiki * Kat to create a private wiki page on the web services accounts holders and passwords * Allan and Kat decided to go for a private git account instead for security reasons * Karen to write the Privacy policy for GNOME services * Karen and Tobi to continue pursuing the fund collection in Europe * Karen and Emmanuele to draft a common/cross-desktop position on systemd * Sri to investigate better uses of adsense/adwords on the GNOME websites * Sri to reach out to the release team for a report on the state of the project * Tobi to talk to Andrea to move the PayPal data extraction scripts over to the GNOME i
Minutes for the Board meeting of December 10th, 2013
wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20131210 = Minutes for Tuesday, December 10th, 2013, 16:00 UTC = == Next Meeting == * Tuesday, January 7th, 2013, 16:00 UTC == Attending == * Rosanna Yuen * Andreas Nilsson * Karen Sandler * Marina Zhurakhinskaya * Emmanuele Bassi * Tobias Mueller * Ekaterina Gerasimova * Joanmarie Diggs === Regrets === === Missing === * Sriram Ramkrishna == Board Meeting Agenda == * Next meeting * Skip December 24th * Proposed date: January 7th * Karen is travelling for Linux Conf Au * Other days: December 31st, January 2nd * Status and plan for the security and privacy campaign's money * Karen talked to Jacob Applebaum * Jacob expressed interest in implementing Tor support in GNOME * Karen is connecting Jacob with Matthias Clasen from the release-team * We should also ask on foundation-list for ideas * '''ACTION''': Karen to reach out to foundation-list for ideas from the foundation members regarding the privacy campaign funds * Implement a Foundation employee policy for COLA (Cost of Living Adjustment) * Still in progress and blocking on budget * Upcoming Hackfests * Portland hackfest * https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/Hackfests/WestCoastSummit2014 * Documentation hackfest * https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/WinterDocs2014 * ~$7500 requested by attendees * Travel costs are still fluctuating * '''VOTE''': Fund documentation hackfest for USD 6000: +1 Joanie, Marina, Tobi, Emmanuele, Andreas; Kat abstains * State of the gnucash file/budget * Rosanna is reconstructing the file * Bank and website issues have been blocking updates * An updated version has been sent to Kat * Missing two adboard fees, we are chasing them * Outstanding reimbursements * Check if we have any outstanding reimbursements and what the status is of those. * Kat checked with GIMP and all the reimbursements arrived * New request from GIMP is being processed * Reimbursement for Sindhu has been returned and Rosanna is going to process it * General OPW update * 31 participants * Marina has started a document on the wiki for logging the OPW coordination process and progress * GNOME * 3 interns * Documentation * Chinese Translation * Getting Things GNOME! * We managed to get enough funds raised even with last minute issues * GNOME Asia Summit update * May 24-25th * Beijing * Venue is not free, but low cost * May be co-located with OpenSUSE conference * Sent the sponsorship brochure * GUADEC 2014 update * A little behind schedule * Sponsorship brochure draft is progressing * Missing sponsorship levels * Learn from last year * Should be out early January * Should formalise the deadline for bids for GUADEC 2015 * Upcoming Advisory Board * Agenda * Wayland update * New adboard members * GNOME.Asia dates and venue * OPW round * FOSDEM face to face meeting * Quick update on Behnam Esfahbod (volunteering) and Andrea Veri's latest work for the foundation. * Andrea took down the World of GNOME forums due to massive amount of spam * Behnam started working, so he had to reduce volunteer time * Andrea's contract is coming up * We should check how much funds we still have from the sysadmin drive * Q&A/panel/presentation of the Board at FOSDEM * Organisers of the Cross-Desktop room expressed interest * To be discussed on the list * Deadline for submission is on Sunday == Completed Actions == * Joanie to ask Karen to report on board-list about the World of GNOME Forums * Joanie to ask Karen to report on board-list about handling the Pitivi funds * Joanie to ask Karen to report on board-list about the Upcoming Adboard meeting * Joanie and Kat to draft a new travel assistance form to replace the current one (Kat, Joanie and Zana to discuss and come up with a solution) * Rosanna to set up an account for Kat to access the Foundation's PayPal * Rosanna to check if the reimbursement for Sindhu has been returned * Marina to ask Behnam to (regularly) report on his state and work == Pending action items == * Andreas to put together a GNOME supporter card for our donors * Emmanuele to send Zana and Tobi an update on FoG donors gifts * Emmanuele to send hackers up for "adoption" the list of donors that want a postcard * Emmanuele to draft a date and time for the post-release meeting * Emmanuele to send a proposal to foundation-list about possible IRC meetings * Joanie to draft a proposal for the photography policy at GNOME conferences to discuss on foundation-list * Joanie and Karen to meet and discuss about the photography policy for GNOME events * Joanie to go over Michael Schumacher ideas on the Gimp funding processes and merge them with her ideas on the wiki * Kat to create a private wiki page on the web services accounts holders and passwords
Minutes for the Board meeting of November 26th, 2013
[apologies for the late publishing of minutes; the last minutes of 2013 and early 2014 were delayed by me being sick, and then not catching up with the latest batch] wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20131126 = Minutes for Tuesday, November 26th, 2013, 16:00 UTC = == Next Meeting == * Tuesday, December 10th, 2013, 16:00 UTC == Attending == * Andreas Nilsson * Marina Zhurakhinskaya * Emmanuele Bassi * Tobias Mueller * Ekaterina Gerasimova * Joanmarie Diggs === Regrets === * Rosanna Yuen * Karen Sandler (travelling) === Missing === * Sriram Ramkrishna == Board Meeting Agenda == * Status and plan for the security and privacy campaign's money * We raised a good deal of money from the Privacy campaign * USD 20,000 * We need a good plan for getting these to use * Ideas on the wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/PrivacyCampaign2013 * Should we start a call for bids? * Need to identify projects * Fund interns? * Design team * Clear deliverables * Companies (bids) and people (bounties) * '''ACTION''': Emmanuele to contact Stef Walter and the design team for ideas for the Privacy campaign actions * Implement a Foundation employee policy for COLA (Cost of Living Adjustment) * Still in progress and blocking on budget * Proposed Hackfests * There are at least three hackfests being planned which will require funding. * US West Coast hackfest (systemd, wayland, graphics stack); no budget or set dates yet * WebKit hackfest (Igalia offices), 30 people (5 from GNOME); EUR 5050, mid-December * Documentation hackfest in January * We are still blocked by the missing budget * We came under budget in terms of hackfests last year * We really need a budget to have a clear idea of how much expenses we can take * '''VOTE''': Fund WebKit hackfest attendance for GNOME Foundation members to the amount of EUR 5050 (USD ~6800): +1 Emmanuele, Tobi, Marina, Andreas; abstained: Kat, Joanie * '''ACTION''': Joanie to contact the WebKit hackfest organisers to communicate the decision of the board * Reimbursements * Some reimbursement for GIMP and GUADEC sponsored travel are late and we need to look into what happened. * Payment was sent 20 days ago * Kat to check with the people asking for reimbursement * GUADEC sponsorship brochure. * In preparation for next years conference, we need to be out in good time with the sponsorship brochure in order to make it easier for companies interested in sponsoring the event be able to plan their budget for 2014 properly. * What is the status of this? * GUADEC 2014 local team is organising a meeting to discuss the state of the brochure, among other things * '''ACTION''': Andreas to attend the GUADEC 2014 team meeting and check the state of the sponsorship brochure * Go through action items and their status. * We have a number of ongoing action items for Foundation IRC meeting, photography policy etc. * Check the status of those. * Upcoming Advisory Board Agenda * Karen sent an email to the adboard with the proposed date and time * Waiting for feedback * To be discussed on board-list and adboard-list == Discussed on the mailing list == * OPW funding. Marina asked if we could sponsor 2 slots +1 extra in case we didn't find a sponsor to fund the 3rd one. * +1 from Emmanuele, Joanie, Andreas, Sri, Marina, to sponsor the 2 slots from the Foundation. * -1 from Kat because we cannot allocate the money without a budget for 2013-2014, the programme discriminates against a group based on gender (which may discourage participation from that group) and the organisation process is not documented, which is not sustainable * +1 from Marina, Sri, Emmanuele * -1 from Andreas, Joanie, Kat due to budget for the coming year being unknown at this moment and because 5500 usd could be spent elsewhere. * Tie due to the fact that we're missing the ruling vote. In the end we got corporate backing for the 3rd spot. * Marina responded to Kat that providing opportunities for under-represented, disadvantaged groups is not discrimination. There are many paid opportunities for all types of work in free software and people who already have these positions or are applying for them are mostly men. Google Code-In for 13-18 year olds has coding, quality assurance, design, documentation, and outreach tasks, but among last year's 20 grand prize winners, there was only one girl. GNOME should make an effort to participate in Google Code-In next year, because we should have many ways of encouraging all new contributors. We can also have an Outreach Program for Documentation Writers, and any such similar program that raises awareness about contributing to free software among people with certain skills, but doesn't reach out to a disadvantaged group specifically. On the subject of documentation, there is a lot of documentation on the wiki, and Marina will document what one needs to do in the yearly cycle of runni
Re: internal engagement
Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: ... > Well I can certainly start discussions. But I worry that apathy has > set in on this list and I'm interested to know if that is the case. Apathetic about what about what exactly, though? As I understand it, the Foundation exists to take care of the housekeeping and to talk to partners, and this is mostly taken care of by our elected board. This doesn't leave a lot of scope for the membership to get actively involved except at election time. It doesn't mean that people don't care about the Foundation; it's just that 1. Foundation activities aren't necessarily relevant to contributors' day to day activities and 2. it's mostly taken care of for us. > I will do an experiment, I will talk about some of the things the > board is doing and if I see some positive feedback I will continue. > How do people feel about that? I made an effort to attend and participate in the foundation IRC meetings that used to happen, and it always felt a bit like we were talking for talking's sake. It's great to try new ways of engaging the membership, and I'm generally supportive, but my concern is that, unless real decisions are at stake, this won't amount to very much. Allan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: internal engagement
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Fabiana Simões wrote: > Quite honestly, I never expected broader discussions about the project > to take place in this list. I believe those should welcome anyone > interested, and not only Foundation members. > Ah I see, so people feel this is primarily a way for members to talk to the board and vice versa. > To a large extent, I always expected this to be an active > communication channel between Foundation members and the board. The > meeting notes and agenda are great, but they give very little insight > about the milestones and major accomplishments we're hitting (and > aiming to hit) as a Foundation. Unfortunately, previous boards have many attempts to have IRC meetings and it's been poorly attended. So I'm not sure what would generate interest in talking to the board? What about status reports from the other teams? For instance, people may not know but we started a QA team around gnome-continuous to increae the quality of our software. Potentially, we would centralize our testing to GNOME instead of each distro doing the testing individually. We could try to get the engagement team to write these kind of things weekly? For board matters, you already have the minutes. > > To answer your question: I do care, but I know little about what the > Board is doing or should be doing to initiate any discussions I find > pertinent to this mailing list. It also strikes me that the Board > never has anything to ask or communicate to us besides the elections > announcements. I think more openness and dialogue would give us some > food for thought, and seed discussions. Well I can certainly start discussions. But I worry that apathy has set in on this list and I'm interested to know if that is the case. I will do an experiment, I will talk about some of the things the board is doing and if I see some positive feedback I will continue. How do people feel about that? sri > > On 1 March 2014 17:52, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: >> Greetings, foundation members! >> >> This list has been pretty quiet and I'm wondering how best to talk >> about things going on in GNOME internally that would capture people's >> imagination. >> >> For the most part, we've been talking mostly about new members and >> welcoming them. >> >> But, I feel that we don't really talk much about the project here from >> a general perspective. There is a lot going on, but this list doesn't >> really reflect the work going on within GNOME. >> >> So, let me ask all of you a question. When you signed on as >> Foundation members, what kind of discussions or involvement did you >> hope to see? What should the various team communicate with you? >> >> We've tried a lot of things to help communicate out ot the project, >> but it's been met mostly with silence and participation has been low >> with irc meetings that the board has come up with. So something is >> going on. Are you busy? Do you not care? What is your enthusiasm >> level? >> >> I'm being blunt because we should have a blunt conversation. If you >> don't want to tell me on-list, you can tell me off list. I think most >> of you know that I take a soft touch both internally and externally in >> GNOME. You should not be afraid to tell me what you are feeling. >> >> The engagement team has spent a lot of time working on our external >> engagement, but I think it's time we focused on internal engagement. >> Organizational health so to speak. >> >> My goal is to have an engaged foundation. I want and need your >> active participation. >> >> If you have a hostile response, or something fairly controversial I >> would prefer that you email me off list, and I will summarize it on >> the list. One thing I want to do is control the conversation without >> it going into the hinterlands. We need to have effective >> communication. Whatever we can't solve we will take it up at GUADEC >> as a BOF or as part of the general GUADEC meeting. Whatever problems >> we have, we will solve it as one team. Together. So use your >> judgement, as we are all adults. >> >> So, let's spend the weekend and casually talk about GNOME!! >> >> sri >> (speaking as an engagement team member, not board btw) >> ___ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
