Re: Proposed amendment to bylaws to allow non-member directors

[Frederic Muller]

OK. So you made me feel there was no risk to answer something I didn't 
want. From my experience (it initially told me I chose something not 
available) the Yes/No is the answer to that question which doesn't 
appear anywhere, and then clicking on it adds it to preferences


And then the next screen confirms you vote yes or no to the question. So 
I voted, and hopefully what I wanted ;-)


Thank you for your help.

Fred


On 5/10/22 20:41, Andrea Veri wrote:

Frederic,

if you start the voting session from scratch, you just select the option 
you want to vote for (either yes or no) and that automatically gets 
added under Preferences, the next section will also show what you voted 
for in order to confirm your selection.


Thanks,

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 3:38 PM Frederic Muller > wrote:




On 5/10/22 20:14, Arun Raghavan wrote:
 > On Tue., May 10, 2022, 9:10 a.m. Andrea Veri, mailto:a...@gnome.org>
 > >> wrote:
 >
 >     Frederic,
 >
 >     unfortunately we had to re-use the voting system we use which is
 >     mainly focused on Board of Directors elections. Let me
explain how
 >     it works:
 >
 >     1. Under candidates, you will find a list of 2 items, "yes"
and "no"
 >     2. For either yes or no to end up in your preferences list, you
 >     mainly need to click on either yes or no, you should expect
to see
 >     your final choice under Preferences and the option you didn't
select
 >     under Candidates
 >     3. While you can theoretically select both and have both options
 >     added to preferences, it's preferred to only select one single
 >     option and confirm
 >
 >     Please let me know if that made things clearer for you, thanks!
 >
 >
 > Just to add to this, since I had this question (which was
answered in
 > the final screen) -- the selection is to answer the question: "do
you
 > support the proposed modification to allow non-member directors".
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Arun

Right! But I am unclear on how to get there... so whether I chose
yes/no
I get to that final question? Since I can't see what's in
preferences it
doesn't seem obvious what the yes/no selection do...

Fred
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Re: Proposed amendment to bylaws to allow non-member directors

[Andrea Veri]

Frederic,

if you start the voting session from scratch, you just select the option
you want to vote for (either yes or no) and that automatically gets added
under Preferences, the next section will also show what you voted for in
order to confirm your selection.

Thanks,

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 3:38 PM Frederic Muller  wrote:

>
>
> On 5/10/22 20:14, Arun Raghavan wrote:
> > On Tue., May 10, 2022, 9:10 a.m. Andrea Veri,  > > wrote:
> >
> > Frederic,
> >
> > unfortunately we had to re-use the voting system we use which is
> > mainly focused on Board of Directors elections. Let me explain how
> > it works:
> >
> > 1. Under candidates, you will find a list of 2 items, "yes" and "no"
> > 2. For either yes or no to end up in your preferences list, you
> > mainly need to click on either yes or no, you should expect to see
> > your final choice under Preferences and the option you didn't select
> > under Candidates
> > 3. While you can theoretically select both and have both options
> > added to preferences, it's preferred to only select one single
> > option and confirm
> >
> > Please let me know if that made things clearer for you, thanks!
> >
> >
> > Just to add to this, since I had this question (which was answered in
> > the final screen) -- the selection is to answer the question: "do you
> > support the proposed modification to allow non-member directors".
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Arun
>
> Right! But I am unclear on how to get there... so whether I chose yes/no
> I get to that final question? Since I can't see what's in preferences it
> doesn't seem obvious what the yes/no selection do...
>
> Fred
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Re: Proposed amendment to bylaws to allow non-member directors

[Frederic Muller]

On 5/10/22 20:14, Arun Raghavan wrote:
On Tue., May 10, 2022, 9:10 a.m. Andrea Veri, > wrote:


Frederic,

unfortunately we had to re-use the voting system we use which is
mainly focused on Board of Directors elections. Let me explain how
it works:

1. Under candidates, you will find a list of 2 items, "yes" and "no"
2. For either yes or no to end up in your preferences list, you
mainly need to click on either yes or no, you should expect to see
your final choice under Preferences and the option you didn't select
under Candidates
3. While you can theoretically select both and have both options
added to preferences, it's preferred to only select one single
option and confirm

Please let me know if that made things clearer for you, thanks!


Just to add to this, since I had this question (which was answered in 
the final screen) -- the selection is to answer the question: "do you 
support the proposed modification to allow non-member directors".


Cheers,
Arun


Right! But I am unclear on how to get there... so whether I chose yes/no 
I get to that final question? Since I can't see what's in preferences it 
doesn't seem obvious what the yes/no selection do...


Fred
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Re: Proposed amendment to bylaws to allow non-member directors

[Arun Raghavan]

On Tue., May 10, 2022, 9:10 a.m. Andrea Veri,  wrote:

> Frederic,
>
> unfortunately we had to re-use the voting system we use which is mainly
> focused on Board of Directors elections. Let me explain how it works:
>
> 1. Under candidates, you will find a list of 2 items, "yes" and "no"
> 2. For either yes or no to end up in your preferences list, you mainly
> need to click on either yes or no, you should expect to see your final
> choice under Preferences and the option you didn't select under Candidates
> 3. While you can theoretically select both and have both options added to
> preferences, it's preferred to only select one single option and confirm
>
> Please let me know if that made things clearer for you, thanks!
>
>
Just to add to this, since I had this question (which was answered in the
final screen) -- the selection is to answer the question: "do you support
the proposed modification to allow non-member directors".

Cheers,
Arun
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Re: Proposed amendment to bylaws to allow non-member directors

[Andrea Veri]

Frederic,

unfortunately we had to re-use the voting system we use which is mainly
focused on Board of Directors elections. Let me explain how it works:

1. Under candidates, you will find a list of 2 items, "yes" and "no"
2. For either yes or no to end up in your preferences list, you mainly need
to click on either yes or no, you should expect to see your final choice
under Preferences and the option you didn't select under Candidates
3. While you can theoretically select both and have both options added to
preferences, it's preferred to only select one single option and confirm

Please let me know if that made things clearer for you, thanks!

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 3:02 PM Frederic Muller  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I am sorry to ... not understand how to vote. First the display is off
> on FireFox and the button or titles hide the selection, then I don't
> understand what the questions Candidates & Preferences mean.
>
> Do we have a guide for dummies somewhere?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Fred
>
> On 5/10/22 18:43, Andrea Veri wrote:
> > The Board has proposed the following change to the GNOME Foundation
> bylaws:
> >
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/foundation-web/-/merge_requests/3/diffs
> > <
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/foundation-web/-/merge_requests/3/diffs
> >
> >
> > The proposal is to widen the pool from which the Foundation can attract
> > candidates to stand for election as directors, by allowing individuals
> > who are not currently Foundation members to submit their candidacy for
> > election.
> >
> > This change is intended to bring new skills and experience into the
> > governance of the Foundation. At present, Foundation membership is
> > granted principally based on contributions to the GNOME project which
> > means the process selects for skills already present in our community,
> > such as software development, design, translation, documentation or
> > engagement. Whilst we do have some members who also bring experience at
> > fundraising, nonprofit governance and establishing partnerships with
> > external organizations, they are in the minority. The Board would like
> > to establish additional pathways to try and attract individuals with
> > these skills into the Foundation.
> >
> > The board has published some notes about the planned strategy for the
> > upcoming year:
> >
> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/evolving-a-strategy-for-2022-and-beyond/9759
> > <
> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/evolving-a-strategy-for-2022-and-beyond/9759
> >
> >
> > And more details about the changes and how they support the strategy
> here:
> >
> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/updated-bylaw-amendment-allow-non-members-to-stand-for-election/9761
> > <
> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/updated-bylaw-amendment-allow-non-members-to-stand-for-election/9761
> >
> >
> > Specifically:
> >  * The requirement that directors are Foundation members is removed.
> >  * The election process is changed such that no more than 30% of the
> > board roles can be filled by directors who are not members at the time
> > of the election. Should this happen the runner-up member candidate will
> > be considered instead, similar to the existing affiliation limit. At
> > present with a board of 7, this is a maximum of two seats.
> >  * Nominations are changed such that member nominees must be
> > seconded by one existing member, and non-member nominees must be
> > seconded by 5% of members, up to a maximum of 5.
> >  * Members who are standing for election cannot second other
> > nominations.
> >
> > In lieu of a Special General Meeting, this proposal has been put to a
> > Written Ballot of the members.
> >
> > The voting session has opened and ballots will be sent during the next
> > hour, more information can be found at:
> > https://vote.gnome.org/2022-05/index.html
> > 
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Andrea
> >
> > Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,
> > GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
> > Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
> > GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman
> >
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Re: Proposed amendment to bylaws to allow non-member directors

[Frederic Muller]

Hi!

I am sorry to ... not understand how to vote. First the display is off 
on FireFox and the button or titles hide the selection, then I don't 
understand what the questions Candidates & Preferences mean.


Do we have a guide for dummies somewhere?

Thank you.

Fred

On 5/10/22 18:43, Andrea Veri wrote:

The Board has proposed the following change to the GNOME Foundation bylaws:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/foundation-web/-/merge_requests/3/diffs 



The proposal is to widen the pool from which the Foundation can attract 
candidates to stand for election as directors, by allowing individuals 
who are not currently Foundation members to submit their candidacy for 
election.


This change is intended to bring new skills and experience into the 
governance of the Foundation. At present, Foundation membership is 
granted principally based on contributions to the GNOME project which 
means the process selects for skills already present in our community, 
such as software development, design, translation, documentation or 
engagement. Whilst we do have some members who also bring experience at 
fundraising, nonprofit governance and establishing partnerships with 
external organizations, they are in the minority. The Board would like 
to establish additional pathways to try and attract individuals with 
these skills into the Foundation.


The board has published some notes about the planned strategy for the 
upcoming year:
https://discourse.gnome.org/t/evolving-a-strategy-for-2022-and-beyond/9759 



And more details about the changes and how they support the strategy here:
https://discourse.gnome.org/t/updated-bylaw-amendment-allow-non-members-to-stand-for-election/9761 



Specifically:
     * The requirement that directors are Foundation members is removed.
     * The election process is changed such that no more than 30% of the 
board roles can be filled by directors who are not members at the time 
of the election. Should this happen the runner-up member candidate will 
be considered instead, similar to the existing affiliation limit. At 
present with a board of 7, this is a maximum of two seats.
     * Nominations are changed such that member nominees must be 
seconded by one existing member, and non-member nominees must be 
seconded by 5% of members, up to a maximum of 5.
     * Members who are standing for election cannot second other 
nominations.


In lieu of a Special General Meeting, this proposal has been put to a 
Written Ballot of the members.


The voting session has opened and ballots will be sent during the next 
hour, more information can be found at:
https://vote.gnome.org/2022-05/index.html 



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Andrea

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