Re: Send us your pants nominations

[Juanjo Marin]

El 05/07/17 a las 14:28, Felipe Borges escribió:

Carlos Garnacho.



I also seriously think that Carlos Garnacho deserves a pair of pesky 
pants because all his awesome work


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On 5 Jul 2017 13:14, "Neil McGovern" > wrote:


Hi all,

GUADEC is coming up soon, and with GUADEC comes the annual Pants
Award.
Every year, GNOME awards a pair of pants to somebody in recognition of
their outstanding contributions. The board will make the final
decision
on who receives the pants, but we'd love to hear your nominations.

The award can be for any kind of contribution to our software or our
community. It does not have to be software development work. The only
requirements are that the person is attending GUADEC to receive the
pants, and that it's not a current or outgoing board member. Not sure
if the person fits the requirements? Just nominate! We'll sort it out.

Please feel free to send your nominations as a reply to this
email. Or,
if you'd prefer to nominate someone anonymously, email board-list.

Thanks,
Neil
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Executive Director, The GNOME Foundation
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Re: Introduction: Philip Chimento

[Juanjo Marin]

Nice we have you ! Congrats and keep the good work !


Cheers,

   -- Juanjo Marin


On 08/08/2016 07:56 AM, philip.chime...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi list,

I've just become a member of the Foundation. I received a welcome 
email encouraging me to introduce myself to this list.


So: hello! First of all I'm happy to be a member.

My last name is pronounced as if it started with the letter K. I can 
be said to be from several different places but I live in Vancouver, 
BC, Canada. On IRC I can sometimes be found lurking under the nickname 
"ptomato". Using that name I also answer questions on Stack Overflow 
about GTK and Autotools. I usually sign myself "Philip C" on GNOME 
mailing lists to avoid confusion with the many other Phil(l)ip(p(e))s.


It's 10 years ago this month that I started writing code using GTK and 
the GNOME stack, in my "copious" spare time while in grad school for 
experimental physics. Not until several years after that did I 
actually make contributions to GNOME. I started out by fixing a bug 
here and there, wandered from there into documentation reviews, and 
tried to participate remotely in hackfests from time to time. When I 
started working for Endless I started writing more substantial 
features, primarily for GJS so far. My first in-person hackfest was 
this June's GTK hackfest in Toronto, where I started some GTK patches 
that I still need to find time to finish :-)


I've also written a few tools that other GNOME contributors may find 
useful:
https://github.com/ptomato/jasmine-gjs - Port of the Jasmine test 
framework to GJS that integrates nicely with Autotools
https://github.com/ptomato/osxcart - Library for interfacing between 
GNOME and file formats commonly used in Mac OSX such as plist and RTF(D)


I look forward to seeing some of you at GUADEC in a few weeks.

Regards,
Philip C


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Re: Introducing myself: Andres Gomez

[Juanjo Marin]

El jue, 05-04-2012 a las 17:02 +0300, Andres Gomez escribió:
 Hi,
 
 I've joint recently the GNOME Foundation and also this list so I would
 like introduce myself briefly.
 
 My name is Andres Gomez, and I'm from a Spanish town called León,
 although I'm now living in Helsinki.
 
 In 2003 I joined Igalia and, nowadays, I'm a partner of the company.
 
 Before joining Igalia I was involved in GNOME mainly as a user but,
 since then, I've been working in a daily basis with all the technologies
 involved in the project.
 
 Since 2006 I focused in GNOME Mobile/Maemo and is in this area in which
 I've been working the last years.
 
 Among other works, I'm the lead developer of GDigicam[1], the library on
 top of GStreamer's CameraBin used in the Camera integrated in the Nokia
 N900, but I've also been developing some other pet projects such as
 Application's Fullscreener [2] and the Automatic Skype Launcher for
 Maemo 4[3].
 
 I'm really happy of having joint the GNOME Foundation and this mailing
 list.
 

I'm happy to see you here as GNOME foundation member. Welcome !

Cheers,

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Re: Meeting Minutes Published - February 1st, 2011

[Juanjo Marin]

On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 08:50 -0600, Andrew Savory wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 16 Feb 2011, at 22:09, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
 
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:
  
  LiMo uses GNOME technology. They continue to support the foundation's
  activities on a case-by-case basis, but their executive director did not
  consider that the advisory board position was giving the foundation
  value for money. We have been informing their advisory board
  representatives of the great stuff we have been doing around hackfests,
  training programmes, GNOME 3 plans, support for GTK+ on mobile, etc. but
  Mr. Gillis was not convinced that the foundation was sufficiently
  focussed on mobile to make the $20K a year worth paying. Obviously, I
  disagree with him.

I know it's a hard time for companies, but, IMHO, from the marketing
side it gives the impression that LiMo is an insignificant player in the
mobile arena if they don't have the money that other organizations with
GNOME products/services have. LiMo needs visibility about their
technology approach, and a seat in the Foundation Board really helps. 

Apart from that, if LiMo wants better GNOME mobile technologies, they
need to lead this action and support developers for adding the features
they miss and working upstream is the more intelligent action, of
course, IMHO. Working this way LiMo could benefit of contributions from
the community. 

Anyway, thanks LiMo for being part of the Advisory Board for some
months, and I hope they will show their support to GNOME in any other
way.

Cheers,

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Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

[Juanjo Marin]

On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 09:02 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:28, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote:
  Hi Dave,
 
  On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:
  Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be
  possible to get some funding from companies or associations interested
  in seeing Orca get better (although a lot of the associations seem to be
  focussing more on NVDA because it works on Windows).
 
  Just thought I'd chime in here. I spent a bit of time searching for
  funding to work on Caribou after the ATRC  / IDRC cut funding for my
  position. The feedback I received was a similar story; the potential
  funders seemed only interested in an applications that would serve
  their users who primarily use Windows. Obviously this will be an issue
  when searching for funding for GNOME a11y projects - especially new
  projects that don't have an established group of users like Caribou.
 
 What about those companies deploying linux desktops in masse in public
 organizations? From time to time appear in the news some big European
 city or government department that has migrated their desktops to
 Linux. Those vendors aren't asked to provide an accessible solution?
 
 Regards,
 
 Tomeu
 


What about international disabilities associations like:

- International Council for Education of People with Visual Impairment
[1]
- ONCE International

I think we can use OLPC/Sugar/GNOME deployments in schools like a good
argument for asking for this. 

Usually, national associations are very Windows-centric, but they can
help to children in poor areas improving the GNOME a11y technologies and
its translation to Sugar.

I think Sugar people would agree with this (Maybe Tomeu or someone from
Sugarlabs can help with this idea if we think is feasible)

cheers,

  -- Juanjo Marin


[1] http://www.icevi.org/
[2] http://www.once.es/new/Onceinternacional/0_pruebaonceint/index_html
[3] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Accessibility


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Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

[Juanjo Marin]

On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 22:58 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
  Aha, well, yes. For starters:
  
  * Speech recognition would be useful for at least some people with print
learning disabilities as well as for certain people with physical 
disabilities.
  
  * Caribou, especially were its functionality further expanded, would be 
useful for people with physical disabilities.
  
  Could we begin there? And if so, who is we and how do we begin? :-)
 
 OK - Caribou is the gok replacement, right?
 
 I guess we is us - the GNOME Foundation. I'm sure the board will help,
 I'll help, I'm certain the a11y team will help... we'll figure this out.
 
 I guess begin begins with build a list of organisations we could
 contact for grants - organisations should include non-profits,
 foundations, universities, and government agencies. We could use a wiki
 page for that, or Etherpad, or Google Docs, perhaps SugarCRM? Open to
 discussion.
 
 Then, for each one, we try to get a good entry point.
 
 Then, we contact them, with a general  informal first approach - do
 you know GNOME? We're pretty cool. We do cool a11y stuff. and if they
 have heard of us, and are maybe using us a little, we can then pitch the
 roadmap for grants.


Is there already any page with a list organizations ?
We can work it out in a dossier about what is GNOME and about a11y GNOME
tecnologies.

Cheers,

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Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

[Juanjo Marin]

El jue, 16-12-2010 a las 09:02 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso escribió:
 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:28, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote:
  Hi Dave,
 
  On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:
  Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be
  possible to get some funding from companies or associations interested
  in seeing Orca get better (although a lot of the associations seem to be
  focussing more on NVDA because it works on Windows).
 
  Just thought I'd chime in here. I spent a bit of time searching for
  funding to work on Caribou after the ATRC  / IDRC cut funding for my
  position. The feedback I received was a similar story; the potential
  funders seemed only interested in an applications that would serve
  their users who primarily use Windows. Obviously this will be an issue
  when searching for funding for GNOME a11y projects - especially new
  projects that don't have an established group of users like Caribou.
 
 What about those companies deploying linux desktops in masse in public
 organizations? From time to time appear in the news some big European
 city or government department that has migrated their desktops to
 Linux. Those vendors aren't asked to provide an accessible solution?


Of course, they are good candidates. We can add to the list too.
Regional Government of Andalusia (my employer) has done that in the last
year, though I think that with economical crisis they won't have a
budget for supporting a11y projects like the year before. Anyway, ask
for some help is free :)

-- Juanjo Marin

 Regards,
 
 Tomeu
 
 
  Cheers, Ben
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Re: How about creating addons.gnome.org

[Juanjo Marin]

On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 08:55 -0400, Jose Aliste wrote:
 The idea is simple (but long and complex to implement). I would love
 to have a site addons.gnome.org, so we can have nice database with
 plugins and other addons for desktop apps. The idea would be to
 borrow ideas from the addons site of mozilla and it should support
 different types of add-ons (for instance, for gedit, we have plugins,
 language files, style-themes to name a few).
 
 So what do you think about this?
 

+1 I think is a useful idea for our users

Cheers,

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Re: How about creating addons.gnome.org

[Juanjo Marin]

On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 15:28 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote:
 Hi!
 
  Also, there should be a clear distinction whether an addon is Gnome
  approved (meaning it is reviewed, translated, probably hosted in the
  gnome git somewhere) or the work of a freelance dev. Distributions are
  welcome to keep  packaging  any of the addons, as they do now, but
  normally the maintainer's cost of distributing 100 or more addons
  would be too high (in my opinion). In this sense, I would love to have
  an easy way of installing add-ons that does not require you to copy
  files to some hidden directories. We should have a command line
  gnome-addon install add-on-name, which will download and install the
  add-on. That would be really neat in my opinion.
 
 While I would rather vote for a more complete GNOME Appstore solution
 in the far future (possibly based on OpenSuSE build service), some
 points to note:

I think the addons.gnome.org could be a first step for this. Another step on 
this direction could be to revamping the GNOME Software Map (there is a 
recent theat suggesting this on the marketing-list) and gnome tv.

[1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2010-August/msg7.html

 * This will only work for scripted plugins Python, Javascript, Ruby
 * All compiled languages will suffer depedency problems
 * It would mean that we install executable things into the user's home
 directory. Some admins might not like this though of course mozilla does
 the same. Security is an important point here.
 
 It is also a rather huge maintaince burden to check that the plugin
 works with the installed version of an application.

Yes, there are some technical open issues and resources problems to
solve.

Cheers,

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Re: Candidacy: Seif Lotfy

[Juanjo Marin]

On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 15:39 +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote:


   • Encourage more cooperation on design between RH and
 Canonical.
 
 What do you mean concretely (design of what)? Why RH and
 Canonical
 specifically?
 
 
  I left out Intel, Nokia, Novell and others because their main focus
 now is on Meego which on a design level I do not consider a GNOME
 project.
I think that cooperation must be improved at all levels, not only at
design.

 Currently RH and Canonical both have started their own design  user
 experience to improve the usability of GNOME. Both however seem to be
 heading to the same goal but with different designs that could on a
 shallow level end up leaving GNOME in an diverging state (Shell vs
 Unity). Both should start cooperating on the design level. One could
 start off with a design board combining  selected and competent
 representatives from community and companies, whose first objective is
 to rewrite the HIG. 

gnome-shell is working upstream, _is_ a GNOME project, and Unity isn't.
Moreover, I wasn't realised of their existence since very lately, and
GNOME shell is been working from about a year. Sincerely, I have no idea
of their motivation for this fork.

Reading a post from Tomeu Vizoso [1] I noticed that Ubuntu people
doesn't have too much idea of GNOME GObject introspection. This sounds
strange to me. Maybe they should have done better for been informed of
this, but I'm sure we can do better too. What I want to mean is that we
can problem like this at all levels, not only at design level. 

It seems that GNOME needs to improve the communication channels with
downstreams (Red Hat, Canonical, Intel, Nokia, Novell, etc). We need
active actions for this, it seems that transparency on GNOME project is
not enough. And I know that we have the Advisory Board for that, but
this model is not working neither. Maybe we need some periodical
meetings with technical staff of downstream projects. Maybe we can
organize this sort of meeting at GUADEC or we can organize hackfest for
this.

-- Juanjo marin


[1]
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GNOME SWOT Analysis

[Juanjo Marin]

Hi !


On the public IRC Board of Directors meeting [1] was disscused the topic
Strategic roadmap for GNOME: long term goals. One of the actions
agreed was to write a SWOT analysis for generating ideas for strategy
and I was charged of this.

Here you are the document [2]. I've tried to get together all the
concerns about the GNOME project I've found everywhere.

This kind of documment is a high level one, not technical. I think a
good starting point for defining the strategy lines. So now we can start
to discuss the actions we can affort to improve the situation. There are
a few on going efforts on areas where SWOT analysis points to. Please,
relink existing efforts into the action plan with its status, roadmaps,
etc.

I'm going to send a message like this to the desktop-devel-list and the
marketing-list as well, so if you want to discuss a something more
specific about development or marketing go to these lists instead.

Of course, it is impossible to improve everything at once, so there will
be areas where we can focus on the near future and other ones will be
left for later.

After that, we will write a document about the strategic lines we are
working. I think it is a s good idea to find a person to be in charge of
the evolution of every strategic line. There are some open issues about
the management of the strategic lines that I hope we can discuss now (if
we need to define a strategy-making body, when we have to evaluate again
the situation, how to sync the strategic lines with our releases, etc).

Best regards,

   -- Juanjo Marin


[1]
http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/IRC20100227

[2]
http://live.gnome.org/SWOT

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Re: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap

[Juanjo Marin]

OnOn Thu, 2010-02-25 at 09:26 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:

 A free computing environment is always better than proprietary
 alternatives.  It is better ethically and socially, because of
 freedom.  Of course, we would like to make it better in practical ways
 too.  But we should not treat freedom as a secondary goal.
 

The main GNOME project goal is delivering a free desktop to our users.
It is in our DNA, is what we are trying to do all the time. We don't
forget about that, we can't !! ;)

This thread is about how can we set a strategic roadmap. It is more
about innovation vs stability. We are doing pretty well on the stability
side with our six-months cycle schedule. We are even adding some
innovation, but we must find a way to set long term ambicious goals and
set a plan for accomplising in all its extension. GNOME 3 looks like the
best strategic movement since long time ago. I'm excited about it ;). We
must go forward.

best regards,

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Re: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap

[Juanjo Marin]

On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 19:26 +, Ciaran O'Riordan wrote:

 (This is offlist, but feel free to copy/reply onlist)
 
 If you're refering to the switch of certain mobile systems from Gtk to Qt, I
 think it's a bad idea to call it a loss.  Our goal is to give software
 users freedom.  With free versions of Qt, they have freedom.  It's nice to
 see our system being used instead of any other system, and the choice of
 Qt over Gtk might indeed highlight some technical shortcomings which could
 be addressed in Gtk, but we still win when they use free versions of Qt.
 
 If you're refering to the fact that certain mobile devices have built their
 own proprietary systems instead of using Gtk, then I agree that this is a
 loss.
 

Ciaran,

My post was more about the need of defining the direction where we want
to go. We need to find a way to agree on the areas to be priorized for
improvement and figure out how to do as _community_, using all our
resources. So, if, for example, we set as priority to be a serious
option for mobile computing, we need to have a plan for that (I put this
as example, surely biased for the news of today and because the
componentized idea I like very much :). 

I'm happy to see that big companies choose free software, though I must
admit I'll be happier it they had choosen GNOME :) --The idea of making
components from GNOME applications could make possible to have a Qt
frontend for these applications--

Cheers,

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Re: New GNOME Foundation Members

[Juanjo Marin]

On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:31 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote:
 Hello everybody!
  
 The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to present the new members:
  - Bradley M. Kuhn
  - Holger Berndt
  - Jim Evins
  - Joanmarie Diggs
  - Juan Jose Marin Martinez


Hi there,

I'm the last guy. I've made a few small contributions to GNOME,
specially small patches to Evince. I was lucky because these patches
help me to obtain my Master Thesis on Free Software.

I'm happy for being officially part of GNOME :)

-- Juanjo Marín


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Re: Thanks, and a Brief Survey

[Juanjo Marin]

On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 08:20 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:

 
 Personally, I think we are delighted that they decided to use GNOME.
 We aren't praising the proprietary software but expressing happiness
 that they have decided to use free software that we have developed.
 
 My impression is that the community is delighted when the Nuvo Garmin
 or Supersonic Imagine use GNOME technologies.
 
 I think we gain more by being excited and asking them to join our
 community, meet us, learn more about free software, etc than if we
 temper it down. When you praise someone that's learning something, you
 don't say that's ok but it'd be better if ..., you say that's
 great! nice job! And then the next time you say how about if you try
 xyz this time?


hmm.. I think this position is similar to the rationale on the creation
of LGPL, the objetive is the promotion of Free Software. GNOME is a good
technology, but there are more popular propietary technologies out
there. It's a strategical decision.

Well, it's seems that it's no coincidence that LGPL is licence of choice
of many GNOME libraries.


Cheers,


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Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

[Juanjo Marin]

El dom, 13-12-2009 a las 13:08 +0100, Peter Hjalmarsson escribió:
 For gentoo, they have two feeds: the planet, and the universe, where
 the planet only aggregates those blog posts that are tagged with gentoo,
 and the universe aggregates the rest.
 I cannot understand why GNOME cannot have this system also?


I totally agree with Peter Hjalmarsson 

 Then for the planet you can have a code of conduct of what they are
 allowed to tag as GNOME (i.e. upcoming events in OSS-land where GNOME
 will be represented, development in projects blessed/used by GNOME,
 comments about projects being blessed/used by GNOME, projects
 interesting for people interested in GNOME),

Then Planet GNOME will be a window into the GNOME world, what GNOME
community is doing now, what their plans are and how we are conquer and
free the world ;)

This planet will be very useful because it will give a community vision
of our project. And this is useful not only for the community members,
but also for the people outside the community that want to know about
GNOME.

  and a universe with maybe
 an disclaimer that the posts there can have nothing what so ever to do
 with GNOME.
 

and Universe GNOME will be a window into the world, work and lives of
GNOME hackers and contributors. Basically Universe GNOME will be what
Planet GNOME is now, maybe without the GNOME related posts. You find
interesting people in the community and you want to know more about them
because you share a common hobby, you learn new things, he/she is
brilliant (there are many!) or whatever. 

I think foundation members, I'm not a member yet, should take into
consideration this solution IMHO.

best regards,

   -- Juanjo Marín


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Re: Private Foundation-List Petition for referendum

[Juanjo Marin]

El lun, 14-12-2009 a las 19:04 -0700, Stormy Peters escribió:
 Are there people on this list that are not GNOME Foundation members?
 If so, can you speak up? It would be good for everyone to know why you
 subscribe to foundation-list and the value you see in it.


I'm not a foundation member, I subscribed here because I want to know
what the GNOME foundations is doing. I'm a GNOME contributor but not a
member yet.

IMHO, there is nothing wrong about having a private list for GNOME
foundation members. The degree of transparency in GNOME should not be
hurt for having an only member list as far as all the decision will be
published. 

The inconvenience of a total transparency management is that 
polemic topics can atract the focus of a lot of people and media. Not
sure if this is a real problem or we can live with that, the price of
being totally transparent. If so, go for a private list.


hasta luego,

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Juanjo Marin]

El lun, 28-09-2009 a las 04:26 +, Bruno Pinho escribió:
 Hi, I start to study about GTK recently, and I didn't find some
 tutorials in portuguese and I have a question: Can I translate some
 tutorials in the www.gtk.org for I study and show my friends to study
 this library too?
 Thanks,
 Bruno
 
Hi Bruno,

I'm sure that this work will be appreciated by the portuguese speaker
community who want to get started on GNOME :)

I think that is good idea to comment your project to the portuguese
translation teams (I added some links at the end), in order to get some
guidance and avoid duplication of work.

Cheers,

   -- Juanjo

http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt
http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt_BR
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pt_br-list


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Re: Stormy's update: Week of July 13th

[Juanjo Marin]

I think is good that people remind us these issues in order to make good
or, at least, meditated and informed decisions. 

Thanks for that:)

-- Juanjo Marín

PS: I'm not a GNOME member, just a GNOME user and humble contributor.

El mar, 21-07-2009 a las 16:04 +0100, Alan Cox escribió:
 On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:41:36 -0400
 Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote:
 
  Created some Amazon affiliate accounts in US, UK, Canada and Germany so 
  tha=
  t
  Jaap can set up stores and a Firefox widget that will enable people to
  direct Amazon referral fees for their purchase to GNOME.
  
  It is not a good thing for the GNOME Foundation to support Amazon in
  this way.  Amazon is one of the main perpetrators of DRM
  (see http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/07/orwell-2009-dystopia).
 
 And stupid patents
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