Re: Agenda for board meeting on July 1sd
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: Yes, the visa reimbursement for the West Coast Hackfest was issued, as the majority of the board (but not all) voted in favour of this. The board should not have done this until a decision was taken about visa reimbursements. The board bended rules. This isn't fair. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Agenda for board meeting on July 1sd
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Stormy Peters stormy.pet...@gmail.com wrote: The board is not bending the rules. The board sets the rules. They can decide whether to decide on each visa reimbursement individually or to set a policy or to ask the travel committee to set a policy. They can also as a group decide on any exceptions. It's perfectly reasonable for them to decide on one visa reimbursement individually before there is a policy if for some reason they are not ready to decide on the policy. Moving forward, regardless of the policy, there might be good reasons to handle cases as exceptions. There already was a rule in place that visa fees will not be reimbursed. Board *still* hasn't unambiguously said that my case was unexceptional (when I had applied to visa reimbursement in 2013) as compared to Deigo's in 2014. I only wanted the board to arrive at a conclusive decision about visa reimbursements before it dispersed out reimbursements. It must have brought the new policies in action and then acted according to them (whether they chose to reimburse visas prior to the policy or not). If board can treat cases as exceptions, then it has and might favor members of the community who are senior, experienced. What good is a rule then? What good is a rule if there is meritocracy in deciding how a rule is enforced? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Anish Patil
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 9:22 PM, anish patil anish.develo...@gmail.com wrote: I did try to run hackfest in India couple of times but real problem is fund raising, i did reach few Indian companies to sponsor for events/hackfests but unfortunately that did not go that well. In Bangalore, we have four GNOMEies as I know of (Arun Raghavan, Aruna S, Srinivasa Ragavan and myself). Aruna is involved and is an active FMSK person. FSMK is very keen on bringing FOSS to students and Bangalore people. Though each of us have our own time commitments to take care of, the planned talk/hackfest at FSMK did not go through. Anish, would you be interested in picking this up from where it was left off? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Welcome interns!
Hello all, Hope the summer is keeping you cheerful :) Thank you, Marina for again doing a wonderful job in organizing this! On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya mari...@redhat.comwrote: Thank you to all the mentors who helped the applicants along the way and will guide the participants this summer! We are especially glad to have returning mentors Cosimo Cecchi, Izidor Matušov, and Arth Patel, as well as new mentors Fabiano Fidencio, Mattias Bengtsson, Giovanni Campagna, Mathieu Duponchelle, Tobias Mueller, and Sindhu Sundar, all of whom have participated in GSoC before (and Sindhu participated in OPW too)! Everyone, please help out mentors from your project by also helping the participants when possible. Happy to help out :) welcome to the newcomers and and lovely to see so many repeat GSoCers! Happy hacking! Cheers! ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Current state of Foundation finances
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote: The board expects that you may have some questions or would like to know more details about the problem, please read https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/CurrentBudgetFAQ and contact the board at board-l...@gnome.org if you have any further questions. I want to ask questions. Was this situation visible or known before or at the time funds for Dev X Hackfest were being allocated? If so, why wasn't a cautionary note not issued when funds less than requested were approved for some attendees and that GNOME was looking at a tight situation on funds? I have always found this a major hassle that there is no queue/request system in place to check the status of a reimbursement and that one has to depend on e-mail threads to ask if a reimbursement was sent or if it's being delayed. I was delayed by 2 months on my first reimbursement and now again due to this situation. Could this be resolved by putting in place web application that one can login to with their e-mail address and the details would of reimbursement associated with that person could be pooled in there? This web application should also be able to send emails every time there is an update for the person. Perhaps even streamlining and eliminating mistakes that can happen with a normal *.odt form, we can have the web app take in details. Thanks. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes for the Board meeting of February 4th, 2014
Hi! On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: * Karen met with the Debian packages for GNOME and asked the current state of Debian * The Debian packagers feel demotivated by the current situation * They agreed to blog more on the issue * The Debian packagers asked for a technical position from the GNOME project for the use of systemd I am not able to understand this, why are the packagers feeling demotivated? what is the current situation? Is there any way I can help? I am interested because I am preparing for Debian MiniConf 2014 by presenting remotely. Thank you. -Sindhu ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
GNOME's own pod (Diaspora instance)
Hello all, This occured to me that when I was reading about Diaspora. We should run our own Diaspora pod (instance) on GNOME servers. Here are a few reasons how this move will benefit our community: - We would be supporting the use of decentralized social network software which is free and open source. - We would be bringing GNOME to a growing community of Diaspora users. - We would be encouraging existing and the steady stream of new GNOME contributors to use FOSS even in social networking, thus truly moving towards software freedom. If there are enough supporters for this idea and if the community agrees, I am happy to help the sysadmin in putting such a system in place. Thank you for your time. -Sindhu ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME.Asia 2014 to be held in Beijing
Hi, Max Awesome to hear this! Looking forward to participate :) Keep up the good work! -Sindhu On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Max sakana...@gmail.com wrote: Hosting GNOME.Asia Summit 2014 May 24-25, 2014 Beijing It is with great pleasure that we announce that Beijing has been selected as the venue of our upcoming GNOME.Asia Summit 2014. GNOME.Asia Summit 2014 follows the release of GNOME 3.12, helping to bring new desktop paradigms that facilitate user interaction in the computing world. It will be a great place to celebrate and explore the many new features and enhancements to GNOME 3 and to help make GNOME as successful as possible. The first ever GNOME.Asia Summit 2008 was hosted in Beijing. It will be great for GNOME.Asia to come back to Beijing again in the year of 2014. Beijing is the capital of the People’s Republic of China has been the political and cultural center of China for centuries. The city is renowned for its opulent palaces, temples, huge stone walls and gates, and its art treasures and universities have made it a center of culture and art in China. There are good airport connections, and train/bus/subway infrastructure. We believe that hosting the event in Beijing will bring the spotlight on GNOME and make an impact locally, regionally and internationally in terms of business and community building. The venue for the conference will be the BeiHang University (Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics), which has been at the center of the GNOME.Asia Community for many years. Many of the repeat organizers of the GNOME.Asia Summit are based in Beijing. We would like to thank everyone who participated in the GNOME.Asia 2014bidding process. We look forward to working with you more in the future! GNOME.Asia Committee ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
GSoC Doc Camp 2013 - we are going!
Hi list, I am pleased to tell you that we [1] are attending The Google Summer of Doc Camp 2013 organized by Google Inc in association with Aspiration and Flossmanuals.net. The book sprint takes place at the Google offices in Googleplex, Mountain View, California. We plan to write a book about Mallard. If you are interested in knowing more, here are some relevant links: [1]https://wiki.gnome.org/sindhus/GSoCDocCamp2013 Learn about Book Sprints at http://www.booksprints.net/about/ If any of you GNOMEies will in and around Sunnyvale (I believe it's just in time for GSoC Mentor Summit, hence) would like to come visit us, we'd be happy to see you! :-) Thanks! ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Keysigning party at GUADEC 2013
Hello, We are having a Keysigning party tomorrow at A112 all day. Please let everybody know to sign up on https://wiki.gnome.org/GUADEC/2013/KeysigningParty. Thank you! -Sindhu S ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Supporting GTK
Hi, Wile! This is not the forum to ask for help about GTK. Perhaps you could look here: http://www.gtk.org/mailing-lists.php On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:46 AM, WILE MARQUEZ wimarq...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody I need to contribute with source code I am a developer ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Charter not found
Hi, all I was wondering lately what topics are OK to post on this mailing list because lately I have been seeing many people post unrelated topics on mailing lists including this [1][2] such as gtk-list[3], desktop-devel-app[4]. There are 2 posts this month on this mailing list that do not pertain to the idea of this mailing list. While it's OK for a user unaware of these things to post and we can address our replies to him/her only and point them in the right direction, however I think all active GNOME contributors (especially those who are new to the community) must be made aware of correct etiquette for posting on mailing lists *explicitly* while signing up by perhaps by giving a small description of what the subscriber can post on the mailing list? While it's easy to simply hit 'Delete' or look the other way at such queries for help, these attitudes do not align with the right spirit of Open Source and of GNOME as a community. I suggest we take a few proactive measures to minimize occurrence of such e-mail. I also decided to check out http://www.gnome.org/foundation/charter.html, which does not seem to exist. Andreas? Thank you. -Sindhu [1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2013-May/msg00140.html [2] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2013-May/msg00102.html [3] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/2013-May/msg00014.html [4] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2013-May/msg00016.html ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Some updates from the GNOME Sysadmin Team
Thank you for this information, Andrea! We'll greatly benefit from the bot and the etherpad is a lovely addition! I have sent you a request via email regarding this. Thank you for setting this up :) -Sindhu On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org wrote: 2013/5/17 Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org KGB Bot --- I've been working during the past week on the KGB Bot [4] (it has been a pain to package dozen of perl libraries!), which is a little IRC bot capable of sendind out notifications when a commit occurs on a specific git repository. I'm currently waiting the RH IT to open the specific port on the firewall for the kgb-client to communicate correctly with the bot which is hosted on a machine outside the datacenter where git.gnome.org runs. I'll make sure to send out an additional mail when the service is ready to go accepting new requests. KGB Bot is finally ready to go, if you are interested in receiving commit notifications for a specific GNOME module on an IRC channel hosted at irc.gnome.org, please open a bug against the 'sysadmin' module on Bugzilla or directly mail me the relevant information: 1. repository-name 2. channel-name In addition to this, the Etherpad istance hosted by the GNOME Infrastructure is up and running at https://etherpad.gnome.org. The service is and will be restricted to all the GNOME teams that will request access to it (at the moment the Board, Release Team, Advisory Board, Marketing Team), if you are interested in the service please drop me an e-mail anytime. -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Charter not found
Hello Andreas, The link originated from here: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list The link is given in the introductory text. Thank you for the correct link! -Sindhu On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: On 2013-05-23 15:27, Sindhu S wrote: I also decided to check out http://www.gnome.org/** foundation/charter.html http://www.gnome.org/foundation/charter.html, which does not seem to exist. Andreas? Where did this url originate from? This is the correct url as far as I know: https://live.gnome.org/** Foundation/Charter https://live.gnome.org/Foundation/Charter - Andreas __**_ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/foundation-**listhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New Foundation Members
Hi, Sri! Thank you :) I am always on the look out to fix a bug ;) So am pretty much put with GNOME for a long time from now :) Thank you for the support and good words, I hope to pass this on if I were given a change to mentor anybody in the upcoming rounds. -Sindhu On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: Welcome folks! Especially Sindhu who decides to stay on even after her internship. Awesome! As well folks writing apps, and other cool things. Thank you for joining! sri On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to announce our newly approved Foundation Members. Please welcome and thank them for their great and valuable contributions over the GNOME Foundation. They are: * 1. Stefan Westerfeld (beast contributor, gst123 maintainer) 2. Daiki Ueno (caribou and gettext maintainer, IBus developer) 3. Sreerenj Balachandran (GStreamer contributor, commits to several GNOME modules) 4. Michael Hasselmann (GTK+ contributor, EDS and Rygel contributions) 5. Hau Heng Haggen So (GNOME.Asia organization, GNOME Hong Kong organizer) 6. Balasankar C (GNOME Malayalam translator and reviewer) 7. Sindhu S (GNOME Documentation contributor, gitg contributor) 8. Vladimír Beneš (GNOME tester, GUADEC '13 Organizer) 9. Andres G. Aragoneses (Banshee maintainer, GSoC mentor) 10. Antonius Riha (Tasque maintainer) * Syntax is Name Surname (area of involvement) For any further question you may have, feel free to mail us at membership-commit...@gnome.org. (or me directly) -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Some updates from the GNOME Sysadmin Team
Thank Andrea for the information about KGB bot and live.gnome.org wiki! I myself asked in #sysadmin channel about the mysterious Renato Barruco recently :) Am interested in information related to the wiki and bots, please keep us updated with latest happenings about them. You are doing a good job! thank you :) -Sindhu On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org wrote: Hello, some time has passed since my latest update so here we come with a few items I've been working on on the past two weeks. New infrastructure-announce mailing list --- From the 8th of May a new mailing list has been started for all the announcements about downtimes, outages, maintenances related to the GNOME Infrastructure. As a side note the mail you are currently reading will be the last that will be kept CCed on desktop-devel-list and foundation-list. Please take a little minute to subscribe yourself to the new list at [1] to not loose any of the updates from the GNOME Sysadmin Team. --- Jabber --- As you may have noticed our Jabber server currently doesn't allow you to add any JID not equal to j...@jabber.gnome.org, that means you can't chat with people having a JID registered on a different server than the one hosted on the GNOME Infrastructure. The problem is related to a specific firewall port not being open, we've taken action on it and the relevant port will be open really soon for the clients to successfully talk with other clients coming from the outside world. --- live.gnome.org --- Our wiki had a really quick maintenance [2] that upgraded it to the latest available MoinMoin's release. (1.9.7) This release takes in a stronger password encryption (it's not based on SHA anymore, but on PASSLIB instead), I would suggest anyone to change their password as soon as possible. In addition to the above, I've cleaned up a bit inactive users, deleted and trashed pages: 1. inactive users (users that registered but never did a single edit since the time they registered their account) were around 23000 (loads of spammers), the current amount of registered and active users went to 6000. Editing pages became really too slow, MoinMoin currently checks each of the registered user's subscriptions list for eventually notifying the user about the change that occurred on the page being edited. That process was taking around 9-10 seconds, and that was actually expected with an amount of 29000 registered users. 2. deleted pages (pages that were marked as 'Deleted' on the wiki) got moved from the data/ directory of live.gnome.org to a backup directory and the cache was cleaned for the changes to take place. 3. trashed pages (pages that were marked as 'Trashed' on the wiki) got moved from the data/ directory of live.gnome.org to a backup directory and the cache was cleaned for the changes to take place. --- MeetBot --- Our Services bot was enhanced with MeetBot, more details are available at [3]. Make good use of it! --- KGB Bot --- I've been working during the past week on the KGB Bot [4] (it has been a pain to package dozen of perl libraries!), which is a little IRC bot capable of sendind out notifications when a commit occurs on a specific git repository. I'm currently waiting the RH IT to open the specific port on the firewall for the kgb-client to communicate correctly with the bot which is hosted on a machine outside the datacenter where git.gnome.org runs. I'll make sure to send out an additional mail when the service is ready to go accepting new requests. That should be all for now, have an awesome weekend! [1] https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure-announce [2] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2013-May/msg00033.html [3] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2013-April/msg00037.html [4] http://kgb.alioth.debian.org -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin, GNOME Foundation Membership Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Hello from a new member
Thank you, Nirbheek and Max! :) On 03-May-2013, at 9:01 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbheek.chau...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to GNOME, Sindhu! ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Hello from a new member
Hello, all Thank you, GNOME Foundation for accepting me as a member. I am absolutely thrilled! I am Sindhu. I come from a small coastal city called Mangalore in the south of India. I currently live and pursue school in Bangalore, India. I am finishing a Master's degree in Computer Science and I am to graduate in June. I previously worked worked at a government office before quitting to finish college and re-engage in my passion for FLOSS products and GNOME. I have been using GNOME for 8 years now, I have come wrangling all the way from random xserver crashes to admiring how pretty GNOME 3 is! When am not hunting for bugs to triage/file/fix, I love to read books (mostly fiction) and pack tasty meals for impromptu picnics :-) I hope to continue contributing in any and every way I can to this product that has radically changed the way I think about software and computing. Thank you. Sindhu ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Hello from a new member
Hello, Sri Thank you :) It's so nice to see so many people spending time out to help each in making a product better. I want to pass this forward in whichever I can! On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: Welcome! Glad you applied. I've seen you active on the mailing list and it's great to see. :-) sri On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Sindhu S sind...@live.in wrote: Hello, all Thank you, GNOME Foundation for accepting me as a member. I am absolutely thrilled! I am Sindhu. I come from a small coastal city called Mangalore in the south of India. I currently live and pursue school in Bangalore, India. I am finishing a Master's degree in Computer Science and I am to graduate in June. I previously worked worked at a government office before quitting to finish college and re-engage in my passion for FLOSS products and GNOME. I have been using GNOME for 8 years now, I have come wrangling all the way from random xserver crashes to admiring how pretty GNOME 3 is! When am not hunting for bugs to triage/file/fix, I love to read books (mostly fiction) and pack tasty meals for impromptu picnics :-) I hope to continue contributing in any and every way I can to this product that has radically changed the way I think about software and computing. Thank you. Sindhu ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Hello from a new member
Thank you, Jared! Please do try to visit us again for foss.in this year :) On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Jared L Jennings jaredljenni...@gmail.comwrote: Welcome! I've been to Bangalore twice for work. It's a very interesting city :) Jared Jennings jaredljenni...@gmail.com On May 2, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Sindhu S sind...@live.in wrote: I currently live and pursue school in Bangalore, India. I am finishing a Master's degree in Computer Science and I am to graduate in June. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Want to review a book about GNOME 3?
Hi! Am I too late? I'd love to read the book and review it :) I have no coding experience but my current internship has given me the confidence to contribute even more :) This book should be a good head start at things! Thank you. On 07-Mar-2013, at 1:49 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, March 6, 2013 2:47 pm, tong hui wrote: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Mohammad Anwari I searched his name, so here is the book URL http://www.packtpub.com/gnome-3-application-development-beginners-guide/book Through the brief instruction of the book, and some item I am very interesting for reading the book and writing some reviews. may I ask a more cheaper ebook editon? Thanks! I've already gotten a few responses about this, so I'll ask about e-book copies, but I think we're probably set on reviewers now! karen ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Want to review a book about GNOME 3?
Hello all, So far as I can understand: 1. A development guide tells you how-to use many different FOSS products with explanation on how they will work together to help the reader create more free software. 2. Manuals are and must be free. So, the bone of contention is a manual Vs a collation of manuals with input that bridges them relevance between them (under the term development guide). My two cents is that going by the rule of free works and their derivatives must also be free, the author should consider releasing the book under a free license and to be fair to the effort the author has put in, he should charge a fee for the hardcopy/printed/paper edition. Thank you. On 08-Mar-2013, at 3:05 AM, alex diavatis alexis.diava...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all and hello Stallman, On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote: If it is going to be sold via Amazon, GNOME might want to look into the Amazon non-profit affiliates program. Please don't encourage anyone to buy from Amazon. See stallman.org/amazon.html for the many bad things that Amazon does -- to independent book stores, publishers, authors, its workers, and its customers. I was wondering if you have to encouraging anyone to buy a book about GNOME from anywhere, and not just Amazon. There are so many people that work without a profit, why you should promote something sell-able only? I was hopping GNOME to have its own free book. We are in 2013, everything is online for free (at least in Free Software) and everything changes so fast, which a book will become obsolete in around 1 month. No need to mention that many people don't have money to buy it. Should we pay for knowledge? Nothing offensive to book author, just a thought. - alex Amazon e-books are particularly hostile to readers' freedom: see stallman.org/ebooks.pdf. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-l...@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Want to review a book about GNOME 3?
I mean no harm to anybody :) I have liked the book and bought the kindle version of it. However my stand on that the author should decide a common ground that satisfies both the free software advocacy and the profit from writing, still stands. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Lefty le...@shugendo.org wrote: On Mar 8, 2013, at 3:20 AM, Sindhu S wrote: My two cents is that going by the rule of free works and their derivatives must also be free, the author should consider releasing the book (TXT or PDF format) under a copyleft license and to be fair to the effort the author has put in, he should charge a fee for the kindle/e-book hardcopy/printed/paper edition. And that's fair, eh? Advocating this approach sounds like a good way to ensure that no one who actually writes for a living, as opposed to doing it as some sort of hobby or therapy or something, ever writes a book having anything to do with free software... ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Want to review a book about GNOME 3?
Hi all! Am I too late? I'd love to read the book and review it :) I have no coding experience but my current internship has given me the confidence to contribute to GNOME even more :) This book should be a good head start at things! Thank you. On Wed, March 6, 2013 2:47 pm, tong hui wrote: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Mohammad Anwari I searched his name, so here is the book URL http://www.packtpub.com/gnome-3-application-development-beginners-guide/book Through the brief instruction of the book, and some item I am very interesting for reading the book and writing some reviews. may I ask a more cheaper ebook editon? Thanks! I've already gotten a few responses about this, so I'll ask about e-book copies, but I think we're probably set on reviewers now! karen ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
