Re: GNOME 3.26 Release Parties

2017-09-16 Thread Richard Stallman 
  > It's difficult and time-consuming to audit a code-base received via a 
  > web-browser. It can also very from client to client. Do you have a tool 
  > that can tell us if a website contains non-free JavaScript? Perhaps a 
  > browser plugin?

Yes, it is called LibreJS.  It functions in Firefox.

A new version of LibreJS, which is much faster and uses WebExtensions,
will be released as soon as WebExtensions supports a certain new feature.

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Detecting non-free JavaScript (was: GNOME 3.26 Release Parties)

2017-09-16 Thread Tobias Mueller 
hey hey!

On Fr, 2017-09-15 at 14:12 -0700, Christian Hergert wrote:
> It's difficult and time-consuming to audit a code-base received via a 
> web-browser. It can also very from client to client. Do you have a tool 
> that can tell us if a website contains non-free JavaScript? Perhaps a 
> browser plugin?
There is https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/

GNU LibreJS aims to address the JavaScript problem described in
Richard Stallman's article The JavaScript Trap. LibreJS is a free
add-on for GNU IceCat and other Mozilla-based browsers. It blocks
nonfree nontrivial JavaScript while allowing JavaScript that is free
and/or trivial.
Downloading LibreJS

In GNU IceCat or any Mozilla browser, you can install LibreJS by
clicking on this link and following the subsequent instructions:
gnu_librejs-6.0.13-fx.xpi (601K). 

The git log indicates activity:
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/librejs.git/log/
so that it might work with recent browsers.


Cheers,
  Tobi
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Re: GNOME 3.26 Release Parties

2017-09-15 Thread Christian Hergert 

On 09/15/2017 02:07 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:

2. Would you like to check whether a person can use Transferwise
without the person's running nonfree software?  I am concerned
that its web site may send nonfree software to the user's browder
and require the user to run it.


It's difficult and time-consuming to audit a code-base received via a 
web-browser. It can also very from client to client. Do you have a tool 
that can tell us if a website contains non-free JavaScript? Perhaps a 
browser plugin?


It would significantly reduce the amount of time we spend doing research 
for you via this mailing list.


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Re: GNOME 3.26 Release Parties

2017-09-15 Thread Richard Stallman 
1. How do you pay money to Transferwise in order to send it?

2. Would you like to check whether a person can use Transferwise
without the person's running nonfree software?  I am concerned
that its web site may send nonfree software to the user's browder
and require the user to run it.


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Re: GNOME 3.26 Release Parties

2017-09-14 Thread SAHIL SAREEN 
Hey Richard


Transferwise is a company that supports currency conversion and money transfer 
globally at very competitive rates, way better than bank accounts. That's 
probably why Alberto recommends it as it could save the foundation some money 
on conversion rates and I agree with him as I've been using their service 
myself.


You can read more on their website https://transferwise.com/


Cheers!

Sahil


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Subject: Re: GNOME 3.26 Release Parties

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  > I use TransferWise _a lot_ and I couldn't recommend it enough. I think
  > the Foundation should use it.

What does that do?  Is it free software?

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Re: GNOME 3.26 Release Parties

2017-09-13 Thread Richard Stallman 
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  > I use TransferWise _a lot_ and I couldn't recommend it enough. I think
  > the Foundation should use it.

What does that do?  Is it free software?

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Re: GNOME 3.26 Release Parties

2017-09-13 Thread Alberto Ruiz 
I use TransferWise _a lot_ and I couldn't recommend it enough. I think
the Foundation should use it.

2017-09-13 8:33 GMT+01:00 Felipe Borges :
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Nuritzi Sanchez  wrote:
>> As of now, we don't have any other accounts set up. We have thought about
>> using TransferWise [1], but I doubt we'll have this set up in time for this
>> upcoming release party cycle.
>>
>> It looks like TransferWise would work in Turkey, and in many of the
>> countries where we have local groups. Does anyone have experience using the
>> service?
>
> Yes, I have used the service to send money abroad and it works just
> fine with lower fees than the standard options. I also have a friend
> (fellow GNOME user) that works there and I could reach to help us out
> if necessary.
>
>> Apparently, TransferWise has low fees. @Muhammet - have you used
>> Payoneer or Skrill before and do you recommend those above others? We're
>> happy to consider other tools and it'd be helpful to know people's
>> experience using them.
>>
>> I'm including more information about the larger challenge around payments
>> below. If anyone is interested in this topic, please email me or the Board
>> as we're having a Foundation hackfest [2] in early October around budgets,
>> financial policies, etc, and we'd love your thoughts on what's working well
>> and what isn't so we can discuss and try to problem-solve.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Best,
>> Nuritzi
>>
>> [1] https://transferwise.com/
>> [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/Foundation2017
>>
>> Some context on payments
>>
>> Here are the main problems we've had with sending small reimbursements so
>> far:
>>
>> Bank transfer fees are heavy and paid by both the GNOME Foundation and
>> usually also by recipients, depending on their bank's policies.
>>
>> PayPal is not available in all of the countries where we have active groups.
>> It still has steep fees for some countries.
>>
>> We don't want to set up too many online payment accounts because of the
>> overhead of managing them.
>>
>> Because of these issues, it's been hard to reimburse local organizers for
>> small events. The PayPal solution has worked at least somewhat well for
>> groups in the past year, but it excludes people in Turkey, where we have an
>> active community.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:35 AM, Muhammet Kara  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Nuritzi,
>>>
>>> Is there any reimbursement option other than paypal? It doesn't work in
>>> Turkey. Payoneer and maybe Skrill are working.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Muhammet
>>>
>>> 2017-09-12 9:20 GMT+03:00 Nuritzi Sanchez :

 Hi all,

 As the release of GNOME 3.26 approaches, the Engagement team would like
 to encourage you to join or host a release party in your area. As has been
 the case with recent releases, we have a budget of $50 per group for the
 first 10 groups that request a budget.

 You can find out whether there is a party near you, or add yours to the
 list here: 
 https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/ReleaseParties/ThreePointTwentysix.
 There, you'll also find information on how to request a budget for your
 event.

 You can find tips on how to hold a release party here:
 https://blogs.gnome.org/engagement/2017/09/11/release-parties/

 If you have any questions, let me know, and thanks to everyone who has
 contributed to this upcoming release!

 Best,
 Nuritzi

 --
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 President, Board of Directors

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>>
>>
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Re: GNOME 3.26 Release Parties

2017-09-13 Thread Felipe Borges 
Hello,

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Nuritzi Sanchez  wrote:
> As of now, we don't have any other accounts set up. We have thought about
> using TransferWise [1], but I doubt we'll have this set up in time for this
> upcoming release party cycle.
>
> It looks like TransferWise would work in Turkey, and in many of the
> countries where we have local groups. Does anyone have experience using the
> service?

Yes, I have used the service to send money abroad and it works just
fine with lower fees than the standard options. I also have a friend
(fellow GNOME user) that works there and I could reach to help us out
if necessary.

> Apparently, TransferWise has low fees. @Muhammet - have you used
> Payoneer or Skrill before and do you recommend those above others? We're
> happy to consider other tools and it'd be helpful to know people's
> experience using them.
>
> I'm including more information about the larger challenge around payments
> below. If anyone is interested in this topic, please email me or the Board
> as we're having a Foundation hackfest [2] in early October around budgets,
> financial policies, etc, and we'd love your thoughts on what's working well
> and what isn't so we can discuss and try to problem-solve.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best,
> Nuritzi
>
> [1] https://transferwise.com/
> [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/Foundation2017
>
> Some context on payments
>
> Here are the main problems we've had with sending small reimbursements so
> far:
>
> Bank transfer fees are heavy and paid by both the GNOME Foundation and
> usually also by recipients, depending on their bank's policies.
>
> PayPal is not available in all of the countries where we have active groups.
> It still has steep fees for some countries.
>
> We don't want to set up too many online payment accounts because of the
> overhead of managing them.
>
> Because of these issues, it's been hard to reimburse local organizers for
> small events. The PayPal solution has worked at least somewhat well for
> groups in the past year, but it excludes people in Turkey, where we have an
> active community.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:35 AM, Muhammet Kara  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nuritzi,
>>
>> Is there any reimbursement option other than paypal? It doesn't work in
>> Turkey. Payoneer and maybe Skrill are working.
>>
>> Best,
>> Muhammet
>>
>> 2017-09-12 9:20 GMT+03:00 Nuritzi Sanchez :
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As the release of GNOME 3.26 approaches, the Engagement team would like
>>> to encourage you to join or host a release party in your area. As has been
>>> the case with recent releases, we have a budget of $50 per group for the
>>> first 10 groups that request a budget.
>>>
>>> You can find out whether there is a party near you, or add yours to the
>>> list here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/ReleaseParties/ThreePointTwentysix.
>>> There, you'll also find information on how to request a budget for your
>>> event.
>>>
>>> You can find tips on how to hold a release party here:
>>> https://blogs.gnome.org/engagement/2017/09/11/release-parties/
>>>
>>> If you have any questions, let me know, and thanks to everyone who has
>>> contributed to this upcoming release!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Nuritzi
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nuritzi Sanchez
>>> GNOME Foundation
>>> President, Board of Directors
>>>
>>> ___
>>> engagement-list mailing list
>>> engagement-l...@gnome.org
>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list
>>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: GNOME 3.26 Release Parties

2017-09-12 Thread Nuritzi Sanchez 
As of now, we don't have any other accounts set up. We have thought about
using TransferWise  [1], but I doubt we'll have
this set up in time for this upcoming release party cycle.

It looks like TransferWise would work in Turkey, and in many of the
countries where we have local groups. Does anyone have experience using the
service? Apparently, TransferWise has low fees. *@Muhammet *- have you used
Payoneer or Skrill before and do you recommend those above others? We're
happy to consider other tools and it'd be helpful to know people's
experience using them.

I'm including more information about the larger challenge around payments
below. If anyone is interested in this topic, please email me or the Board
as we're having a Foundation hackfest
 [2] in early October
around budgets, financial policies, etc, and we'd love your thoughts on
what's working well and what isn't so we can discuss and try to
problem-solve.

Thank you!

Best,
Nuritzi

[1] https://transferwise.com/
[2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/Foundation2017

Some context on payments

Here are the main problems we've had with sending small reimbursements so
far:

   - Bank transfer fees are heavy and paid by both the GNOME Foundation and
   usually also by recipients, depending on their bank's policies.

   - PayPal is not available in all of the countries where we have active
   groups. It still has steep fees for some countries.

   - We don't want to set up too many online payment accounts because of
   the overhead of managing them.

Because of these issues, it's been hard to reimburse local organizers for
small events. The PayPal solution has worked at least somewhat well for
groups in the past year, but it excludes people in Turkey, where we have an
active community.




On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:35 AM, Muhammet Kara  wrote:

> Hi Nuritzi,
>
> Is there any reimbursement option other than paypal? It doesn't work in
> Turkey. Payoneer and maybe Skrill are working.
>
> Best,
> Muhammet
>
> 2017-09-12 9:20 GMT+03:00 Nuritzi Sanchez :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As the release of GNOME 3.26 approaches, the Engagement team would like
>> to encourage you to join or host a release party in your area. As has been
>> the case with recent releases, we have a budget of $50 per group for the
>> first 10 groups that request a budget.
>>
>> You can find out whether there is a party near you, or add yours to the
>> list here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/ReleaseParties/ThreePoin
>> tTwentysix. There, you'll also find information on how to request a
>> budget for your event.
>>
>> You can find tips on how to hold a release party here:
>> https://blogs.gnome.org/engagement/2017/09/11/release-parties/
>>
>> If you have any questions, let me know, and thanks to everyone who has
>> contributed to this upcoming release!
>>
>> Best,
>> Nuritzi
>>
>> --
>> Nuritzi Sanchez
>> GNOME Foundation 
>> President, Board of Directors
>>
>> ___
>> engagement-list mailing list
>> engagement-l...@gnome.org
>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list
>>
>>
>


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GNOME 3.26 Release Parties

2017-09-11 Thread Nuritzi Sanchez 
Hi all,

As the release of GNOME 3.26 approaches, the Engagement team would like to
encourage you to join or host a release party in your area. As has been the
case with recent releases, we have a budget of $50 per group for the first
10 groups that request a budget.

You can find out whether there is a party near you, or add yours to the
list here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/ReleaseParties/ThreePointTwentysix.
There, you'll also find information on how to request a budget for your
event.

You can find tips on how to hold a release party here:
https://blogs.gnome.org/engagement/2017/09/11/release-parties/

If you have any questions, let me know, and thanks to everyone who has
contributed to this upcoming release!

Best,
Nuritzi

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GNOME Foundation 
President, Board of Directors
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