Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of January, 19th, 2016

2016-02-19 Thread Tobias Mueller
hi.

On Do, 2016-02-18 at 23:30 +0100, Alexandre Franke wrote:
> In addition to that, the logo and wordmark are not only protected by
> trademark, but also by copyright
but it's freely licensed so copyright shouldn't matter unless I'm
missing something.

Cheers,
  Tobi
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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of January, 19th, 2016

2016-02-18 Thread Alexandre Franke
Hello,

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Allan Day  wrote:
The Foundation first started licensing sellers of GNOME merchandise in 2008.
> Over the years, we've had advice from various lawyers. I'm not aware of any
> of them ever telling us that we couldn't or shouldn't license merchandise
> sellers who are using our trademark.
>
> It should also be noted that other Free Software foundations license their
> trademarks in a similar way, and that unixstickers and similar sellers are
> used to signing these agreements.
>
> It might be interesting for us to extend the trademark registrations we have
> to include merchandise, but I haven't seen any evidence that we shouldn't
> continue with the established practice of trademark licensing.

In addition to that, the logo and wordmark are not only protected by
trademark, but also by copyright which belongs to the GNOME
Foundation.

-- 
Alexandre Franke
GNOME Hacker & Foundation Director
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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of January, 19th, 2016

2016-02-18 Thread Allan Day
Hey Tobi,

Tobias Mueller  wrote:

> >  * Unixstickers
> >   * They're selling GNOME branded items
> >   * No trademark licence agreement has ever been signed with them
> Are they offering anything related to computers under the name "GNOME"?
> So far I only see stickers and pins:
> https://www.unixstickers.com/tag/gnome
>
> Are we having trademarks outside the realms of "Downloadable computer
> software tools and libraries used for the development of other software
> applications; downloadable computer software development tools;
> downloadable computer software for creating and managing a computer
> desktop; downloadable computer software for use as a graphical user
> interface; downloadable computer software for word processing, database
> management, and use as a spreadsheet; Computer software development;
> computer software design; computer programming for others; technical
> consulting services in the field of computer software; licensing of
> intellectual property." ?
>

The Foundation first started licensing sellers of GNOME merchandise in
2008. Over the years, we've had advice from various lawyers. I'm not aware
of any of them ever telling us that we couldn't or shouldn't license
merchandise sellers who are using our trademark.

It should also be noted that other Free Software foundations license their
trademarks in a similar way, and that unixstickers and similar sellers are
used to signing these agreements.

It might be interesting for us to extend the trademark registrations we
have to include merchandise, but I haven't seen any evidence that we
shouldn't continue with the established practice of trademark licensing.

Allan
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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of January, 19th, 2016

2016-02-18 Thread Pascal Terjan
On 18 February 2016 at 16:34, Karen Sandler  wrote:
> On 2016-02-18 11:20, Tobias Mueller wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> On So, 2016-01-24 at 16:33 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote:
>>  * Unixstickers
>>   * They're selling GNOME branded items
>>   * No trademark licence agreement has ever been signed with them
>> Are they offering anything related to computers under the name "GNOME"?
>> So far I only see stickers and pins:
>> https://www.unixstickers.com/tag/gnome
>>
>> Are we having trademarks outside the realms of "Downloadable computer
>> software tools and libraries used for the development of other software
>> applications; downloadable computer software development tools;
>> downloadable computer software for creating and managing a computer
>> desktop; downloadable computer software for use as a graphical user
>> interface; downloadable computer software for word processing, database
>> management, and use as a spreadsheet; Computer software development;
>> computer software design; computer programming for others; technical
>> consulting services in the field of computer software; licensing of
>> intellectual property." ?
>
>
> I note that the website unixstickers.com only sells stickers and pins
> related to computer software :)
>

More specifically those are under software category and the url makes
it very clear that they are using the brand of the GNOME  desktop
environment:

http://www.unixstickers.com/stickers/software_stickers/gnome-desktop-environment-linux-sticker
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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of January, 19th, 2016

2016-02-18 Thread Karen Sandler

On 2016-02-18 11:20, Tobias Mueller wrote:

Hi!

On So, 2016-01-24 at 16:33 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote:
 * Unixstickers
  * They're selling GNOME branded items
  * No trademark licence agreement has ever been signed with them
Are they offering anything related to computers under the name "GNOME"?
So far I only see stickers and pins:
https://www.unixstickers.com/tag/gnome

Are we having trademarks outside the realms of "Downloadable computer
software tools and libraries used for the development of other software
applications; downloadable computer software development tools;
downloadable computer software for creating and managing a computer
desktop; downloadable computer software for use as a graphical user
interface; downloadable computer software for word processing, database
management, and use as a spreadsheet; Computer software development;
computer software design; computer programming for others; technical
consulting services in the field of computer software; licensing of
intellectual property." ?


I note that the website unixstickers.com only sells stickers and pins 
related to computer software :)


karen

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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of January, 19th, 2016

2016-02-18 Thread Tobias Mueller
Hi!

On So, 2016-01-24 at 16:33 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote:
>  * Unixstickers
>   * They're selling GNOME branded items
>   * No trademark licence agreement has ever been signed with them
Are they offering anything related to computers under the name "GNOME"?
So far I only see stickers and pins:
https://www.unixstickers.com/tag/gnome

Are we having trademarks outside the realms of "Downloadable computer
software tools and libraries used for the development of other software
applications; downloadable computer software development tools;
downloadable computer software for creating and managing a computer
desktop; downloadable computer software for use as a graphical user
interface; downloadable computer software for word processing, database
management, and use as a spreadsheet; Computer software development;
computer software design; computer programming for others; technical
consulting services in the field of computer software; licensing of
intellectual property." ?

Cheers,
  Tobi
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