Hello,
Hi,
Le vendredi 13 décembre 2013, à 19:37 +0100, Mathieu Duponchelle a écrit :
Hi everyone !
Following a discussion with Karen Sandler and other members of the
gnome engagement team in the #engagement channel on gimpnet,
it was decided that a mail to that list would be necessary, to
expose the legal and technical aspects of the crowdfunding campaign
we are about to start around the pitivi video editor.
I might have missed some info about this campaign, but it's the first
time I hear about it: it would be good if you could summarize the goals
and so on :-) Anyhow, I wish you the best!
So, the Pitivi team, composed of its 3 current maintainer decided a while
back to try to launch a fundraising campaign with the ambitious goal of
bringing the pitivi video editor to a robust state, making sure all the
components of its stack are solid enough to support its ambition of
becoming a professional grade video editing software. The plan is to have 2
phases during the actual development time:
- Work package 1: Stabilization to reach the long awaited *1.0 release*
- Work package 2: Implement top-wanted features (backers should be a
llowed to vote so we can determine what these are?)
You can find a quick overview of the plan at
http://gstreamer.bugsfree.org:8080/#plan and all the full detailed version
at http://gstreamer.bugsfree.org:8080/the-plan -- Keep in mind that this is
still Work in Progres, and if we would be glad to get some feeback from you.
The team behind this initiative is composed of:
- Jean Francois Fortin Tam, designer, bug triager, manager and
maintainer of Pitivi, he is in the Gnome community since 2005 and you
probably already know him.
- Mathieu Duponchelle, GSoCer in the Gnome project in 2011 and 2013, he
has been working on pitivi since then, and thanks to his GSoC project
(again under the gnome umbrella) in 2013, we finally managed to release
a 0.91 beta release based on the new stack we have been building for
2years+ (namely GES, GI, Gst1.0 etc...)
- Thibault Saunier, GSoCer under the gnome umbrella in 2009 and 2010 he
has been the main developer of pitivi, and GES since 2011
You can find some more details about us at:
http://gstreamer.bugsfree.org:8080/#about-us
If you have more question about the project/who we are etc. we would be
happy to talk with you, we are always connected on #pitivi.
One quick question:
On our side, there are two options we could go for, with
different charges and laws associated :
1) We can create a non-profit association.
2) We can create a regular Limited Liability Company (LLC),
SARL in French.
Have there been any thoughts about a third option: actually having the
Foundation hire the people?
There are probably several downsides (in terms of costs; in terms of
legal paperwork, as I understand that this is about French people and
the Foundation is still kind of US-centric for that matter; in terms of
involvement from the Foundation; etc.). But on the other hand, it might
make sense to at least think whether it's a good idea for the Foundation
to employ developers.
I am not sure what you have in mind here, the solution we are proposing
should be pretty straight forward in term of paperwork for the Gnome
fundation.
Best Regards,
Thibault Saunier.
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Mathieu Duponchelle
mduponchel...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone !
Following a discussion with Karen Sandler and other members of the
gnome engagement team in the #engagement channel on gimpnet,
it was decided that a mail to that list would be necessary, to
expose the legal and technical aspects of the crowdfunding campaign
we are about to start around the pitivi video editor.
Presentations of the team, our plan etc are available on the website
we are currently developing and creating content for, bear in mind
that it's still work in progress at the time. I'll post a link to
that website soon, Thibault Saunier is not at his home and can't
can't make it available right now.
We've been happy to learn the GNOME committee had voted unanimously
to help us handle the funds we'll get through that campaign for multiple
reasons :
+ First we are not very keen on using proprietary services such as
kickstarter and indiegogo, as they are not part of our ecosystem.
+ Second, pitivi has always been a very gnome-centric app at
the technology level, all of our main components are GLib based
and we intend to go on that way, so this partnership seemed like
a logical continuation to us.
As for our pay, we intend to go for quite low standards for
CS engineers, and require 2500 euros a month, working 7 hours
21 days a month, which translates to a 17 euros hourly rate.
I don't have official average salaries for CS engineers to submit,
but as an example I'm currently making 3000 euros a month at my position.
Money isn't really the issue for us, as we are ready to get less
in exchange of doing what we
