noooxml petition

2007-08-31 Thread Anne Østergaard
noooxml petition

Read more about the petition on

http://www.noooxml.org/petition
http://www.noooxml.org/ 


NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard I ask the national
members of ISO to vote NO in the ballot of ISO DIS 29500 (Office
OpenXML or OOXML format) for the following reasons:

 1. There is already a standard ISO26300 named Open Document Format
(ODF): a dual standard adds costs, uncertainty and confusion to
industry, government and citizens; 
 2. There is no provable implementation of the OOXML specification:
Microsoft Office 2007 produces a special version of OOXML, not a
file format which complies with the OOXML specification; 
 3. There is information missing from the specification document,
for example how to do a autoSpaceLikeWord95 or
useWord97LineBreakRules; 
 4. More than 10% of the examples mentioned in the proposed standard
do not validate as XML; 
 5. There is no guarantee that anybody can write software that fully
or partially implements the OOXML specification without being
liable to patent lawsuits or patent license fees by Microsoft; 
 6. This format conflicts with existing ISO standards, such as ISO
8601 (Representation of dates and times), ISO 639 (Codes for the
Representation of Names and Languages) or ISO/IEC 10118-3
(cryptographic hash); 
 7. There is a bug in the spreadsheet file format which forbids any
date before the year 1900: such bugs affect the OOXML
specification as well as software applications like Microsoft
Excel 2000, XP, 2003 and 2007. 
 8. This standard proposal was not created by bringing together the
experience and expertise of all interested parties (such as the
producers, sellers, buyers, users and regulators), but by
Microsoft alone.
First name: 



etc.

I signed this petition some time ago.


Also I was alarmed when I read more about the proces and the voting
procedures of ISO.

If countries have problems but vote yes, their comments could be
disregarded.

If a country has problems they should vote no. This way they can expect
an answer or a clarification to their concerns.


I read about the proces here:

http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/

Where is the transparency and the possibility for everyone to influence
the decision in a fair ISO process?


Kind regards

Anne Østergaard 

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Re: noooxml petition

2007-08-31 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
Anne Østergaard wrote:

   I read about the proces here:
 
 http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/
 
 Where is the transparency and the possibility for everyone to influence
 the decision in a fair ISO process?

Some more thoughts on this from Venkatesh Hariharan at : 
http://osindia.blogspot.com/2007/08/memo-to-microsoft-stop-wasting-our-time.html
 
especially the part I checked with the IT ministry in Pakistan and 
brought to their attention that Pakistan is now a P member of ISO 
which entitles it to vote on OOXML. This was news to them as they were 
not consulted on the OOXML issue.


:Sankarshan

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Re: noooxml petition

2007-08-31 Thread Hubert Figuiere
Anne Østergaard wrote:
 noooxml petition
 
 Read more about the petition on
 
 http://www.noooxml.org/petition
 http://www.noooxml.org/ 
 
 
 NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard I ask the national
 members of ISO to vote NO in the ballot of ISO DIS 29500 (Office
 OpenXML or OOXML format) for the following reasons:

Is this an official statement from the Foundation or a personal one?
Your mail sounds unclear about that.


Hub
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