Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
On 12/07/2009 01:32 PM, Frederic Crozat wrote: Le 27/11/2009 10:53, Murray Cumming a écrit : On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 16:50 -0200, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: Alternative proposal: lets deal with the problem at hand and get our story straight about what is planet.gnome.org, what can be posted there (i.e. no porn and vulgar language etc.) and how we can help to enforce a reasonably exact policy on an exact resource which is planet.gnome.org. planet.gnome.org is hard to moderate. Editors can only remove an entire blog. It would be easier if the software allowed the existing editors to remove a single blog post. Let's be honest too : there are a bunch of people which used to be active GNOME members, who changed their focus to other projects and are still in Planet GNOME for no reason. Maybe PGO editors should start cleaning the old cruft (no offense intended).. But I find it interesting to know, say, what Miguel is up to these days. I don't think it's just me... behdad ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 03:23 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: But I find it interesting to know, say, what Miguel is up to these days. I don't think it's just me... I don't believe Frederic was pointing at Miguel. There are people who have left the Gnome community working on products that don't use any Gnome technology posting blog post/ads for said product on PGO. Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
2009/12/8 Pierre-Luc Beaudoin pierre-...@pierlux.com: On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 03:23 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: But I find it interesting to know, say, what Miguel is up to these days. I don't think it's just me... I don't believe Frederic was pointing at Miguel. There are people who have left the Gnome community working on products that don't use any Gnome technology posting blog post/ads for said product on PGO. [0] Unless specific names are pointed out to the Board or, on this list, the shadow boxing will be more harmful [1] How does one define that they have left the GNOME community ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:08 AM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: [1] How does one define that they have left the GNOME community ? If this is a concern that many have, maybe it would be simple enough to send an annual reminder to people that are aggregated on Planet GNOME to let them know that they are on Planet GNOME, why they are there (they are part of the GNOME community), what the code of conduct is and let them know how they can remove their blog. Stormy ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Say, any viewer of p.g.o can vote a post +1 or -1. Then we can gather two metrics per poster: 1) how impactful his/her posts are (avg / median / max number of votes). 2) how interested are readers in his/her posts (avg / median / min/max score. We can then have threshold to hide / collapse unpopular posts. Yes, please! Let the system fix itself through trendy crowd-sourcing, rather than having a board spank people who speak foolishly! - Mike ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Behdad Esfahbod beh...@behdad.org wrote: On 12/08/2009 10:08 AM, sankarshan wrote: 2009/12/8 Pierre-Luc Beaudoinpierre-...@pierlux.com: On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 03:23 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: But I find it interesting to know, say, what Miguel is up to these days. I don't think it's just me... I don't believe Frederic was pointing at Miguel. There are people who have left the Gnome community working on products that don't use any Gnome technology posting blog post/ads for said product on PGO. [0] Unless specific names are pointed out to the Board or, on this list, the shadow boxing will be more harmful [1] How does one define that they have left the GNOME community ? Exactly. The more I think about the issues raised in this thread, the more I believe a voting system (similar to what maemo is doing perhaps) may be all we need. Say, any viewer of p.g.o can vote a post +1 or -1. Then we can gather two metrics per poster: 1) how impactful his/her posts are (avg / median / max number of votes). 2) how interested are readers in his/her posts (avg / median / min/max score. We can then have threshold to hide / collapse unpopular posts. That part can even be done using JavaScript and you can the threshold on the page and more posts will collapse/uncollapse... Really ? Most people read posts in Google reader (offline) and may not even be interested to vote for every author. -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
On 12/09/2009 01:37 AM, Sankar P wrote: Say, any viewer of p.g.o can vote a post +1 or -1. Then we can gather two metrics per poster: 1) how impactful his/her posts are (avg / median / max number of votes). 2) how interested are readers in his/her posts (avg / median / min/max score. We can then have threshold to hide / collapse unpopular posts. That part can even be done using JavaScript and you can the threshold on the page and more posts will collapse/uncollapse... Really ? Most people read posts in Google reader (offline) and may not even be interested to vote for every author. No one *has* to vote. And we can have different feeds for different thresholds. behdad ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Behdad Esfahbod beh...@behdad.org wrote: On 12/09/2009 01:37 AM, Sankar P wrote: Say, any viewer of p.g.o can vote a post +1 or -1. Then we can gather two metrics per poster: 1) how impactful his/her posts are (avg / median / max number of votes). 2) how interested are readers in his/her posts (avg / median / min/max score. We can then have threshold to hide / collapse unpopular posts. That part can even be done using JavaScript and you can the threshold on the page and more posts will collapse/uncollapse... Really ? Most people read posts in Google reader (offline) and may not even be interested to vote for every author. No one *has* to vote. And we can have different feeds for different thresholds. Coming back to the starting point - what is the problem to which the solution is being discussed ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
On 12/09/2009 01:56 AM, sankarshan wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Behdad Esfahbodbeh...@behdad.org wrote: On 12/09/2009 01:37 AM, Sankar P wrote: Say, any viewer of p.g.o can vote a post +1 or -1. Then we can gather two metrics per poster: 1) how impactful his/her posts are (avg / median / max number of votes). 2) how interested are readers in his/her posts (avg / median / min/max score. We can then have threshold to hide / collapse unpopular posts. That part can even be done using JavaScript and you can the threshold on the page and more posts will collapse/uncollapse... Really ? Most people read posts in Google reader (offline) and may not even be interested to vote for every author. No one *has* to vote. And we can have different feeds for different thresholds. Coming back to the starting point - what is the problem to which the solution is being discussed ? Read the thread? behdad ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Behdad Esfahbod beh...@behdad.org wrote: Coming back to the starting point - what is the problem to which the solution is being discussed ? Read the thread? I have been following the thread since the inception. The intent of the (rhetorical ?) question was to bring forth the fact that we are discussing solutions of myriad variety without looking at whether it can be solved non-programmatically. Hence, the question. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
On 12/09/2009 02:25 AM, sankarshan wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Behdad Esfahbodbeh...@behdad.org wrote: Coming back to the starting point - what is the problem to which the solution is being discussed ? Read the thread? I have been following the thread since the inception. The intent of the (rhetorical ?) question was to bring forth the fact that we are discussing solutions of myriad variety without looking at whether it can be solved non-programmatically. Hence, the question. The immediate question I was responding to was whethere/how blog posts of people not involved with GNOME anymore / not part of the GNOME community should be removed from PGO. I think what I proposed is an adequate solution to that. Sure it doesn't fix many other problems raised in the thread. behdad ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
