Re: GUADEC registration

2014-08-27 Thread Germán Poo-Caamaño
On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 16:22 +0200, Andres G. Aragoneses wrote:
 On 23/07/14 23:44, Richard Stallman wrote:
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  [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
 
   Estimates of costs regarding audits come directly from accountants who
   could do the work and who have previously advised the Foundation
   employees that the best way to avoid being audited is to not do
   anything which may trigger an audit.
 
  Could you put me in touch with them?  I would like to ask them
  why they think bitcoin use is likely to be one of them, and what
  evidence there is of this.
 
  I will also ask Karen.
 
 
 Richard, I'm curious if you got more information about this, and if yes, 
 could you share it?

My guess is that this discussion is only academic.  GNOME Foundation can
receive donations through Bitcoin, and the web page was already enabled
by when this issue was raised:

http://www.gnome.org/friends/other-ways-to-donate/

If it were an actual issue, it would not be there. I guess.

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Re: GUADEC registration

2014-08-27 Thread Andres G. Aragoneses

On 27/08/14 18:45, Germán Poo-Caamaño wrote:

On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 16:22 +0200, Andres G. Aragoneses wrote:

On 23/07/14 23:44, Richard Stallman wrote:

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  Estimates of costs regarding audits come directly from accountants who
  could do the work and who have previously advised the Foundation
  employees that the best way to avoid being audited is to not do
  anything which may trigger an audit.

Could you put me in touch with them?  I would like to ask them
why they think bitcoin use is likely to be one of them, and what
evidence there is of this.

I will also ask Karen.



Richard, I'm curious if you got more information about this, and if yes,
could you share it?


...  GNOME Foundation can receive donations through Bitcoin


As I'm guessing that currently GNOME Foundation converts instantly to 
USD every BTC donation that is received (which in my mind wouldn't 
trigger any audits, as all finances would still be in USD), I had 
understood that this thread was not anymore about just receiving 
donations, but also managing finances in bitcoin, which is what 
apparently BitGive is doing, according to this article:


http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/news/2014/08/26/sacramento-charity-may-be-nations-first-bitcoin.html

(Which is actually the main way to save costs/time on banking 
fees/processes, that could be interesting to nonprofits such as us.)



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Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of August 15th, 2014

2014-08-27 Thread Jeff Fortin
Le mardi 26 août 2014 à 20:08 -0700, Germán Poo-Caamaño a écrit :
 First at all, thanks for the minutes. A couple of questions:
[...]

   * Outstanding brand use requests
* need someone to take action/mail Carol Hanson
  re: Permission request for Personal use of Gnome foot
  * ACTION: Jeff to reply to her
 
 Was this reply positive or negative?
 Any rationale that could be shared?

Positive. It was fine with us as it was for a personal one-time gift for
one person. The reason why this was only approved now is that the
request fell through the cracks under the avalanche of mails, the events
(GUADEC etc.) and the handover between the old and new board.


   * Andreas to ask Karen and Pam how much we should disclose to the
  community about the ongoing discussion with Groupon
 
 I guess Pam refers to Pamela Chestek. Is this right?
 
 BTW,  What was the outcome? Shall we assume the outcome was to not
 disclose anything considering the last minutes only say Groupon?

We are not publicly disclosing because it is an ongoing legal matter.
Of course, we want to be as transparent as possible, so as soon as our
legal counsel advises us it is prudent to discuss publicly, we will.

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Re: GUADEC registration

2014-08-27 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

Richard, I'm curious if you got more information about this, and if yes, 
could you share it?

Eben Moglen seemed to think there was no problem, but since
the GNOME Foundation is his client, it should consult him directly.

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President, Free Software Foundation
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Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
  Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.

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Re: GUADEC registration

2014-08-27 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

Converting bitcoins to dollars immediately seems fine to me as a way
to accept payment in bitcoin.  Does the GNOME Foundation
accept payment for GUADEC this way?  If not, could it do so?

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
  Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.

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