Re: [fpc-devel] FreePascal on ARM Linux ,SoftFloat and EABI issues
Michael Schnell wrote: The next stage is to develop X apps using Lazarus. But for these I need to get FPC working. Do you really want to run Lazarus on the ARM-system ? While this _should_ be possible somehow, It might be quite slow compared to what can be done on a PC with cross-compiling. Lazarus 0.9.27 runs on an ARM system based on Debian Etch without significant problems and adequately fast. The key is to use something like FluxBox rather than KDE. I was tempted to post this using Mozilla running on an ARM system, but hopefully I don't need to go to that extreme to make the point that ARM is a viable development host as well as a target. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] FreePascal on ARM Linux ,SoftFloat and EABI issues
Let me remind you that i am dont use a Cross compiler, but an emulated Arm machine. That is interesting, but is it really useful ? Cross-compiling seems more standard. In this forum there seem to be several ARM-CE-users, but ARM-Linux seems not to be very common right now. I'm very interested in that as (not before next year) I might be starting a Cross-Linux project. The next stage is to develop X apps using Lazarus. But for these I need to get FPC working. Do you really want to run Lazarus on the ARM-system ? While this _should_ be possible somehow, It might be quite slow compared to what can be done on a PC with cross-compiling. Moreover I have no idea how well gdb might work in such an environment (gdb-user interface in the ARM target) Using cross-gdb from a PC onto the arm device via Ethernet seems the more user-friendly (and more standard). Please let us know how you proceed with this interesting stuff. -Michael ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] FreePascal on ARM Linux ,SoftFloat and EABI issues
But it has its own set of problems. I'm not really dedicated enough, but I never managed to cross-compile complex projects (by complex I mean with various dependencies on external libraries). Native is so much easieronce you get the ball rolling (but then the same could be said for cross-compiling) Anyway, it seems that an emulated arm machine, while slower than cross-compiling, is faster than the real arm hardware. I just assume that when trying to make FP and GDB and Lazarus run natively on ARM you are on your own, while cross compiling for ARM-Linux is a supported option on Lazarus and thus the powers than be should be interested on helping you top make it work perfectly. It's a mixture of ARM-CE (i.e. the compiler, which already seems to work quite well) and native Linux (the libraries, which do work nicely). -Michael ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] FreePascal on ARM Linux ,SoftFloat and EABI issues
Michael Schnell escribi?: Let me remind you that i am dont use a Cross compiler, but an emulated Arm machine. That is interesting, but is it really useful ? Cross-compiling seems more standard. But it has its own set of problems. I'm not really dedicated enough, but I never managed to cross-compile complex projects (by complex I mean with various dependencies on external libraries). Native is so much easieronce you get the ball rolling (but then the same could be said for cross-compiling) Anyway, it seems that an emulated arm machine, while slower than cross-compiling, is faster than the real arm hardware. It is possible, and in the buildfaq there is an example (lazarus from windows to linux). Note that crosscompiling is not free of problems anyway. Sometimes the binaries simply don't work, I always blamed it on the cross binutils though. ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] FreePascal on ARM Linux ,SoftFloat and EABI issues
Michael Schnell escribió: Let me remind you that i am dont use a Cross compiler, but an emulated Arm machine. That is interesting, but is it really useful ? Cross-compiling seems more standard. But it has its own set of problems. I'm not really dedicated enough, but I never managed to cross-compile complex projects (by complex I mean with various dependencies on external libraries). Native is so much easieronce you get the ball rolling (but then the same could be said for cross-compiling) Anyway, it seems that an emulated arm machine, while slower than cross-compiling, is faster than the real arm hardware. Bye -- Luca ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] FreePascal on ARM Linux ,SoftFloat and EABI issues
From: Nataraj S Narayan Hi Florian and other friends I am involved in porting existing C code to Arm Linux for AT91SAM9263 Ek board with 340x220 display. I need to write lots of console kinda apps. I am using a qemu-system-arm emulated Armel Debian machine on a Debian x86 Lenny distro for writing code. I installed fpc-2.2.0.arm-linux.tar on the emulated linux.Which compiling a simple helloworld.pas , i get the classic error of System.o being EABI 0 while target is EABI 4. I have got the svn download of fpc, and trying to compile it in the emulated machine for ARM for the past 2 days. I have given :-make clean all ARCH=arm OPT=-CfSoft.Its compiling for quite long and finally comes to rest endlessly while compiling system.pp.Let me remind you that i am dont use a Cross compiler, but an emulated Arm machine. Try to crosscompile fpc 2.2.1 or 2.3.1 compiler binary and then use this binary as starting compiler on arm machine. Yury. ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] FreePascal on ARM Linux ,SoftFloat and EABI issues
En/na Yury Sidorov ha escrit: Try to crosscompile fpc 2.2.1 or 2.3.1 compiler binary and then use this binary as starting compiler on arm machine. In my case, before trying to compile using the native 2.2.0, I tried crosscompiling from linux/i386, but: $ make all install CPU_TARGET=arm CROSSBINDIR=/scratchbox/compilers/cs2005q3.2-glibc2.5-arm/bin BINUTILSPREFIX=arm-linux- CPU_T CROSSOPT='-CfSOFT -darm -dFPC-ARMEL -gl' Makefile:129: *** Compiler ppcrossarm not found. Stop. Bye -- Luca ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
Re: [fpc-devel] FreePascal on ARM Linux ,SoftFloat and EABI issues
On 31 May 2008, at 22:02, Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Yury Sidorov ha escrit: Try to crosscompile fpc 2.2.1 or 2.3.1 compiler binary and then use this binary as starting compiler on arm machine. In my case, before trying to compile using the native 2.2.0, I tried crosscompiling from linux/i386, but: $ make all install CPU_TARGET=arm CROSSBINDIR=/scratchbox/compilers/ cs2005q3.2-glibc2.5-arm/bin BINUTILSPREFIX=arm-linux- CPU_T CROSSOPT='-CfSOFT -darm -dFPC-ARMEL -gl' Makefile:129: *** Compiler ppcrossarm not found. Stop. Add FPC=/full/path/to/ppc386-2.2.1 (or 2.3.1, depending on which version you are trying to compiler for ARM; in any case, make sure you use the same version of ppc386 as starting compiler) Jonas ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel
