Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Guillermo Martínez Jiménez wrote:
> developers) some body commented about Pascal Served Pages, which aims

If memory serves me well, Pascal Server Pages became Powtils or PWU and
continued from there for a while. Powtils (or PWU - no idea what is the
actual name) also supports template (server side) support like PHP or the
old ASP from Microsoft.



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Re: [fpc-pascal] sql server embedded: sqlite the only solution?

2009-12-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> 
> I use firebird embedded. Fast, reliable, easily installed and 
> much more powerful as sqlite.

What is required to use firebird embedded? I know about it, but never
looking into it.

We have an application we need to distribute with minimal install and
thought of firebird embedded, but I haven't had a chance to read up on it.
Any pointers or URL's, wiki pages I can look at?


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Osvaldo Filho wrote:
> Powtils + FreeSpider ?

I'm currently using Powtils for our company CGI projects, but thinking of
moving over to fpWeb in the new year, simply because I like to reduce 3rd
Party dependencies, and Powtils seems rather abandonded. I'm still stuck on
a locally modified 1.6.0.2 simply because 1.7.x is totally broken and
hasn't been touched in the last year as far as I know.

So I would recommend going with something closer to home (part of FPC) -
like fpWeb. This gives much better certainty that it will be continuously
maintained - even if that only means no new feature but at least compilable
with latest FPC.

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[fpc-pascal] Queue integer values

2009-12-16 Thread Reimar Grabowski
Hi all,

I need a queue that can store integer values. Is there any way to use TQueue 
for this task or does a generic queue class exist which I can use?
If both answers are no what is my next best option?

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Re: [fpc-pascal] sql server embedded: sqlite the only solution?

2009-12-16 Thread Michael Van Canneyt



On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Codebue Fabio - P-Soft wrote:


I'm trying to develop an application on windows mobile with lazarus/free
pascal.
I need SQL server embedded on it to manage a lot of data.

SQLite3 is the only solution available?

I CAN'T find information anywhere... some idea?


I use firebird embedded. Fast, reliable, easily installed and 
much more powerful as sqlite.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Andreas Berger


If I made one, then I'll make it using Powtils (fully CGI) or 
ExtPascal (fully Ajax) because that's what I know and have been 
experience with. I myself prefer to use fpWeb since it's provided by 
FPC's FCL. No third party dependency is good for new comers, and it's 
also better FPC/Lazarus promotion. I also intend to study fpWeb and 
would try to combine it with ExtPascal, if possible.
I vote for a CGI approach (Then I could help). A sub-vote would go for 
fpWeb (Just need to find some good documentation for it), but I would 
accept Powtils.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] sql server embedded: sqlite the only solution?

2009-12-16 Thread Roberto Padovani
What about data encryption? Is anyone of those providing it ?

Thanks!

R#

2009/12/16 ik :
> You also have Firebird Embeeded and MySQL Embedded (I really dislike MySQL)
> afaik.
>
> Ido
>
> http://ik.homelinux.org/
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Codebue Fabio - P-Soft
>  wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to develop an application on windows mobile with lazarus/free
>> pascal.
>> I need SQL server embedded on it to manage a lot of data.
>>
>> SQLite3 is the only solution available?
>>
>> I CAN'T find information anywhere... some idea?
>>
>>
>>
>> Codebue Fabio
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Re: [fpc-pascal] sql server embedded: sqlite the only solution?

2009-12-16 Thread ik
You also have Firebird Embeeded and MySQL Embedded (I really dislike MySQL)
afaik.

Ido

http://ik.homelinux.org/


On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Codebue Fabio - P-Soft <
f.code...@p-soft.biz> wrote:

> I'm trying to develop an application on windows mobile with lazarus/free
> pascal.
> I need SQL server embedded on it to manage a lot of data.
>
> SQLite3 is the only solution available?
>
> I CAN'T find information anywhere... some idea?
>
>
>
> Codebue Fabio
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Re: [fpc-pascal] midlet pascal and fpc

2009-12-16 Thread dmitry boyarintsev
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
 wrote:
> I found this when I contacted the authors of Midlet Pascal and they
> replied saying that it was given to a group of developers which is
> converting it from C++ to Delphi. But we have still to see if it will
> actually develop, but this is surely better then how it was before, as
> a dead project.

That's very nice, thanks! There have been some talks about Midlet
going open source a few months earlier. But since there were no
sources it really looked like fake.

Anyway. Even if there's no point in uniting two projects (Midlet and
FPC) together, it could be useful to add support for Midlet compiler
(there's command-line tool now) in Lazarus.

thanks,
dmitry
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[fpc-pascal] Re: Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Guillermo Martínez Jiménez
Hello.

A coincidence. Today at Club Delphi (Spanish community of Delphi
developers) some body commented about Pascal Served Pages, which aims
to create a server that allows to use Pascal as script language in a
similar way than PHP. Actually the project is 'dead' (last release
date is November 2004), is far to be complete and was developed with
Delphi and Kylix. I'm tempted to study its current status and continue
it by myself if possible. Currently it is part of the Nemesis Pascal
Framework, in SourceForge's project named npascal.

Just for your information.

Regards.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] midlet pascal and fpc

2009-12-16 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:58 PM, dmitry boyarintsev
 wrote:
> Could you point to the actually opened midlet Source?

http://midletpascal.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/midletpascal/

I found this when I contacted the authors of Midlet Pascal and they
replied saying that it was given to a group of developers which is
converting it from C++ to Delphi. But we have still to see if it will
actually develop, but this is surely better then how it was before, as
a dead project.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] midlet pascal and fpc

2009-12-16 Thread dmitry boyarintsev
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Bee Jay  wrote:
> I just knew recently that Midlet Pascal went open source, through FPC wiki.

Could you point to the actually opened midlet Source?

thanks,
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[fpc-pascal] sql server embedded: sqlite the only solution?

2009-12-16 Thread Codebue Fabio - P-Soft
I'm trying to develop an application on windows mobile with lazarus/free
pascal.
I need SQL server embedded on it to manage a lot of data.

SQLite3 is the only solution available?

I CAN'T find information anywhere... some idea?


  
Codebue Fabio

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Re: [fpc-pascal] midlet pascal and fpc

2009-12-16 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Florian Klaempfl
 wrote:
> Generating java is not the real problem, the point is simple that a lot
> modern OOP language concepts cannot be mapped to java bytecode. An FPC
> for Java bytecode would be even more cripple than Delphi .Net was.

Could you give an example?

I wrote a simple procedural Pascal compiler to Java assembler
(bytecode via jasmin) and I had no problems mapping the features.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Michael Van Canneyt



On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Osvaldo Filho wrote:


Powtils + FreeSpider ?


What do those have that fpWeb does not have ?
To my knowledge, PowTils is not even OOP...

Michael.




2009/12/16 Michael Van Canneyt :



On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote:


So Bee, register a project on SourceForge or GitHub and start coding.
Maybe
somebody will contribute at some stage. Like they said in some old movie:
"Build it and they will come".


If I made one, then I'll make it using Powtils (fully CGI) or ExtPascal
(fully Ajax) because that's what I know and have been experience with. I
myself prefer to use fpWeb since it's provided by FPC's FCL. No third party
dependency is good for new comers, and it's also better FPC/Lazarus
promotion. I also intend to study fpWeb and would try to combine it with
ExtPascal, if possible.


Extpascal needs to be rewritten for that; it's not possible to combine the
two at the moment. ExtPascal only works with ExtPascal :(

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Osvaldo Filho
FreeSpider http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?topic=7439.0
Powtils http://code.google.com/p/powtils/


2009/12/16 Osvaldo Filho :
> Powtils + FreeSpider ?
>
>
> 2009/12/16 Michael Van Canneyt :
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote:
>>
 So Bee, register a project on SourceForge or GitHub and start coding.
 Maybe
 somebody will contribute at some stage. Like they said in some old movie:
 "Build it and they will come".
>>>
>>> If I made one, then I'll make it using Powtils (fully CGI) or ExtPascal
>>> (fully Ajax) because that's what I know and have been experience with. I
>>> myself prefer to use fpWeb since it's provided by FPC's FCL. No third party
>>> dependency is good for new comers, and it's also better FPC/Lazarus
>>> promotion. I also intend to study fpWeb and would try to combine it with
>>> ExtPascal, if possible.
>>
>> Extpascal needs to be rewritten for that; it's not possible to combine the
>> two at the moment. ExtPascal only works with ExtPascal :(
>>
>> Michael.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Osvaldo Filho
Powtils + FreeSpider ?


2009/12/16 Michael Van Canneyt :
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote:
>
>>> So Bee, register a project on SourceForge or GitHub and start coding.
>>> Maybe
>>> somebody will contribute at some stage. Like they said in some old movie:
>>> "Build it and they will come".
>>
>> If I made one, then I'll make it using Powtils (fully CGI) or ExtPascal
>> (fully Ajax) because that's what I know and have been experience with. I
>> myself prefer to use fpWeb since it's provided by FPC's FCL. No third party
>> dependency is good for new comers, and it's also better FPC/Lazarus
>> promotion. I also intend to study fpWeb and would try to combine it with
>> ExtPascal, if possible.
>
> Extpascal needs to be rewritten for that; it's not possible to combine the
> two at the moment. ExtPascal only works with ExtPascal :(
>
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Re: [fpc-pascal] midlet pascal and fpc

2009-12-16 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Bee Jay schrieb:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just knew recently that Midlet Pascal went open source, through FPC
> wiki. Quite a good news, IMO. Since it's now open source, is it possible
> to start working on java byte code generator in FPC based on Midlet
> Pascal code? This will help FPC targetting mobile devices that only
> support java application such as Blackberry. Well, I almost know nothing
> about compiler development, so I just hope it'd be possible someday
> through the help of Midlet Pascal code.
> 

Generating java is not the real problem, the point is simple that a lot
modern OOP language concepts cannot be mapped to java bytecode. An FPC
for Java bytecode would be even more cripple than Delphi .Net was.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] midlet pascal and fpc

2009-12-16 Thread Michael Van Canneyt



On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote:


Hi all,

I just knew recently that Midlet Pascal went open source, through FPC wiki. 
Quite a good news, IMO. Since it's now open source, is it possible to start 
working on java byte code generator in FPC based on Midlet Pascal code? This 
will help FPC targetting mobile devices that only support java application 
such as Blackberry. Well, I almost know nothing about compiler development, 
so I just hope it'd be possible someday through the help of Midlet Pascal 
code.


You'll have to do more than just generate bytecode. 
You'll need a complete new RTL for that.


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[fpc-pascal] midlet pascal and fpc

2009-12-16 Thread Bee Jay

Hi all,

I just knew recently that Midlet Pascal went open source, through FPC  
wiki. Quite a good news, IMO. Since it's now open source, is it  
possible to start working on java byte code generator in FPC based on  
Midlet Pascal code? This will help FPC targetting mobile devices that  
only support java application such as Blackberry. Well, I almost know  
nothing about compiler development, so I just hope it'd be possible  
someday through the help of Midlet Pascal code.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Forum merger

2009-12-16 Thread Michael Van Canneyt



On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Bee Jay wrote:


So Bee, register a project on SourceForge or GitHub and start coding. Maybe
somebody will contribute at some stage. Like they said in some old movie:
"Build it and they will come".


If I made one, then I'll make it using Powtils (fully CGI) or ExtPascal 
(fully Ajax) because that's what I know and have been experience with. I 
myself prefer to use fpWeb since it's provided by FPC's FCL. No third party 
dependency is good for new comers, and it's also better FPC/Lazarus 
promotion. I also intend to study fpWeb and would try to combine it with 
ExtPascal, if possible.


Extpascal needs to be rewritten for that; 
it's not possible to combine the two at the moment. 
ExtPascal only works with ExtPascal :(


Michael.
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