Re: [fpc-pascal] Unbuffering I/O

2018-08-29 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 17:01:54 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> I think I've seen this question asked before, my apologies if this was
> recently.
>
> I've got two programs intended to be functionally identical, one in Perl
> and the other in FPC. They read a unix-domain datagram, decode the
> message, and emit output; if this goes to a file then it's reasonable to
> monitor it using  tail -f
>
> Perl has a variable that you can set to force output to be unbuffered,
> with the result that as soon as a message is output it's in the file in
> its entirety.
>
> Is there an equivalent for Pascal, or should I be using something like
> fpSync(stdout) at opportune times?

In order to flush textfiles automatically I use
"
 ttextrec().flushfunc:= ttextrec().inoutfunc;
"
after it is opened.

Martin

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Unbuffering I/O

2018-08-29 Thread wkitty42

On 08/29/2018 11:49 AM, Henry Vermaak wrote:

Otherwise you'll have to Flush() them manually, which is a pain.


really? i wrote a wrapper for write and writeln that simply calls them and then 
does a flush()... nothing painful other than using mywrite() and mywriteln() or 
similar ;)



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Re: [fpc-pascal] Unbuffering I/O

2018-08-29 Thread wkitty42

On 08/29/2018 11:01 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Is there an equivalent for Pascal, or should I be using something like 
fpSync(stdout) at opportune times?


flush();


i use it all the time on my programs that write to the logs... i hate having a 
crash and be missing some log output because it was buffered and lost with the 
crash... flush() everything...




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Re: [fpc-pascal] Unbuffering I/O

2018-08-29 Thread Sven Barth via fpc-pascal

Am 29.08.2018 um 18:25 schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:

On 29/08/18 16:00, Henry Vermaak wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 03:01:54PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:> I 
think I've seen this question asked before, my apologies if this was> 
recently.> > I've got two programs intended to be functionally 
identical, one in Perl and> the other in FPC. They read a unix-domain 
datagram, decode the message, and> emit output; if this goes to a 
file then it's reasonable to monitor it using> tail -f> > Perl has a 
variable that you can set to force output to be unbuffered, with> the 
result that as soon as a message is output it's in the file in its> 
entirety.> > Is there an equivalent for Pascal, or should I be using 
something like> fpSync(stdout) at opportune times?
Does SetTextBuf() with a buffer of size 1 work?  I don't think there 
isanything equivalent to setvbuf().  Otherwise you'll have to Flush() 
themmanually, which is a pain.


I'm a bit wary of SetTextBuf() with a preopened handle. Flush() is 
actually no big deal since the program has a well-defined processing 
loop... but unfortunately is less than effective.


It's something I can live with, since this is really only a test 
program I knocked together to look at how clock_gettime() behaves on 
different platforms (the answer being "badly" :-)


SetTextBuf() does not influence the handle itself, only the buffer of 
the file/text record, so it should be safe to use.


Regards,
Sven
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Unbuffering I/O

2018-08-29 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

On 29/08/18 16:00, Henry Vermaak wrote:

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 03:01:54PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:> I think I've seen this question asked before, my 
apologies if this was> recently.> > I've got two programs intended to be functionally identical, one in Perl 
and> the other in FPC. They read a unix-domain datagram, decode the message, and> emit output; if this goes to a 
file then it's reasonable to monitor it using> tail -f> > Perl has a variable that you can set to force output 
to be unbuffered, with> the result that as soon as a message is output it's in the file in its> entirety.> > 
Is there an equivalent for Pascal, or should I be using something like> fpSync(stdout) at opportune times?
Does SetTextBuf() with a buffer of size 1 work?  I don't think there isanything 
equivalent to setvbuf().  Otherwise you'll have to Flush() themmanually, which 
is a pain.


I'm a bit wary of SetTextBuf() with a preopened handle. Flush() is 
actually no big deal since the program has a well-defined processing 
loop... but unfortunately is less than effective.


It's something I can live with, since this is really only a test program 
I knocked together to look at how clock_gettime() behaves on different 
platforms (the answer being "badly" :-)


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Unbuffering I/O

2018-08-29 Thread Henry Vermaak
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 03:01:54PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> I think I've seen this question asked before, my apologies if this was
> recently.
> 
> I've got two programs intended to be functionally identical, one in Perl and
> the other in FPC. They read a unix-domain datagram, decode the message, and
> emit output; if this goes to a file then it's reasonable to monitor it using
> tail -f
> 
> Perl has a variable that you can set to force output to be unbuffered, with
> the result that as soon as a message is output it's in the file in its
> entirety.
> 
> Is there an equivalent for Pascal, or should I be using something like
> fpSync(stdout) at opportune times?

Does SetTextBuf() with a buffer of size 1 work?  I don't think there is
anything equivalent to setvbuf().  Otherwise you'll have to Flush() them
manually, which is a pain.

Henry
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[fpc-pascal] Unbuffering I/O

2018-08-29 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
I think I've seen this question asked before, my apologies if this was 
recently.


I've got two programs intended to be functionally identical, one in Perl 
and the other in FPC. They read a unix-domain datagram, decode the 
message, and emit output; if this goes to a file then it's reasonable to 
monitor it using  tail -f


Perl has a variable that you can set to force output to be unbuffered, 
with the result that as soon as a message is output it's in the file in 
its entirety.


Is there an equivalent for Pascal, or should I be using something like 
fpSync(stdout) at opportune times?


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markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

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